Va. high court invalidates McAuliffe’s order restoring felon voting rights

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would guess it depends on the state, republicans governors would deny them the right to vote, jut like we saw here with these republicans

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    The Bush administration didn't give up, there was still a get OBL CIA team in place. It's just capturing Bin Laden was no longer a priority since we found out that Bin Laden wasn't the mastermind of 9/11 and that we did capture the Mastermind of 9/11 in early 2003, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed.

    We also discovered that Bin Laden opposed targeting the WTC and the Pentagon, etc. But it was KMS who convinced OBL to sign the check to target the WTC.

    By 2004 Bin Laden was out of the loop. Bush had all of OBL money so OBL was unemployed.

    Question that remains unanswered who was paying OBL room and board in Abbottabad ?

    I'm going with Saudi Arabia.
     
  3. Andrew Jackson

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    Regardless, the Kaine pick should lock up VA (in the Dem column) in November.
     
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    The Virginia High Court ruled 4-3, that excusing "all" former felons was an illegal act (my words), that "each" person's case should be individually ruled on. To me, that sounds correct and disregarding politics. The act itself, yes was political, but as said earlier, the way things work today, the ruling will be ignored until after the elections, then the appeal to the US SCOTUS, will be dropped. The mission accomplished, they hope.

    For the record, and in my opinion, ignoring law or mixing law with politics has never been so prevalent as it has been in the past 8 years, although it's been around in a lessor degree since 1776.
     
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    Of course the Democratic Party is pro-criminal. They are pro-cop-killers and want to bring in mass murdering Islamic terrorists into the country by the thousands.
     
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    The court made the correct legal decision. The legislature should respond by repealing those laws. they won't...

    So, the governor will bring on a bunch of volunteers to help expedite the paperwork and restore the voting rights of people who have completed their debt to society.

    Why are "conservatives" so convinced that if people vote, they will lose? Are they so sure of losing the battle of ideas that they view halting the expression of those ideas at the voting booth as their only alternative?
     
  7. US Conservative

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    Those who can vote legally should.

    Those that can't-should not.

    Is that too difficult to understand? Im betting it is.
     
  8. GeddonM3

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    Such a major blow to the lefts plan to try and overtake the voting in virginia. Oh well, maybe you guys can keep working on getting illegals the right to vote.
     
  9. US Conservative

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    Oh its expected, they will be particularly desparate this fall.

    Canks going with Kaine was likely in response to that-except nobody is particularly happy with him as a choice.
     
  10. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    When the tyrannical State deprives people of the human and civil rights it tends to make people engage in emotional tirades. The fact is that bigots have always sought to deprive people of voting rights and the chance to participate in the nation's political affairs. That's exactly what that lawsuit was about. They want to restrict freedom.
     
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    When I was a kid we attended a church run by a fire and brimstone preacher who railed weekly about the evils of liquor.

    Turns out, as reported by my Granny years later, the preacher was a screaming drunk who beat his wife and kids daily.

    Seems Republicans fit this mold. Deny voting rights to people with one hand while preaching about encouraging people to vote with the other.

    Doesn't it remind you of the gay rights thing?
    "Being gay was a sin because sex outside marriage is a sin and we can't condone sin."
    "We want to get married."
    "You can't, we passed a law defining marriage as one man one woman."
     
  12. US Conservative

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    Why go off on a tangent?
     
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    Can you point me to the investigation or inquiry which found that Bush called off all operations and efforts to find OBL to which you must be referring.
     
  14. Bluesguy

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    You mean if they illegally vote what will happen? Well first hopefully they can't because when they try to and are not on the voter rolls and their having to show an ID will prevent that. If they do somehow manage to do so then the STATE would be the body that would arrest and prosecute them unless of course the Governor fails to carry out his duty to enforce state law.

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    You utter your conjecture about this but cannot explain a premise for it. More smoke and mirrors?

    What right are the Republicans trying to deny me and can you be specific or just more sloganeering?
     
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    When they violate our laws especially at the felony level you betcha, they lose the privilege of voting if the state is holding an election. The state can also put you into a prison which denies you rights you otherwise had, the can keep you on probation which can deny you rights you otherwise had, can make you forfeit property denying you your right to that property you otherwise had, and can even execute you denying you your right to life you otherwise had.
     
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    You have no right to vote you have a right to equal protection as to voting law. And the courts have ruled that when you break our law, commit a felony crime, the state can say you will not be allowed to vote as a punishment for your crime against our society and the law has been equally applied.
     
  17. Robert

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    Let me simply show you some video evidence.

    [video=youtube;6I1-r1YgK9I]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I[/video]

    Obama on homosexual marriage

    Minute 15 to hear him talk about belief in GOD and how he is a Jesus follower

    Minute 21 where he is anti homosexual marriage. Does not believe it belongs in the constitution.

    [video=youtube;N1VwHT9VfQk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1VwHT9VfQk[/video]
     
  18. Robert

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    It seems the public elected people they trusted to decide these matters. The representatives did not agree with the Governor. I smelled a rat the moment I realized who is most likely to be in prison.

    While I am sure many of the convicts don't vote, and never voted at any point, suddenly the Governor whipped out his registration card and noticed who is in prison. If HE as a D hands them the voting right, if they vote, who will they vote for?

    He is mining for voters since he knows the majority of convicts are Democrats even if not voting.

    Crooks hold Democratic values. We have no doubt of that at all.

    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-nearly-34-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412

     
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    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/jail-survey-nearly-34-felons-register-as-democrats/article/2541412

     
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    While it seems that both have evolved into acceptance of what is now not only the moral proposition that denying someone equality based on their gender is wrong but its illegality is now the law of the land...

    I fail to see what this has to do with Republicans consistently over the last 6 years working to deny the right to vote to minorities, younger people, and the elderly while speaking publicly about the "duty" to vote. It's called hypocrisy. Doing one thing in private and saying another in public.
     
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    I guess this a dem speaking. I don't believe i'm wrong when I remind people that it was the dems who didn't want civil rights for blacks in the first place. in any case a felon loses the vote as part of the punishment. if they want they can apply to get that right back.at least that's the way I understand it. of course I could be wrong,,,,at least about the applying part. the first fact is FACT.
     
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    I figured you would come up with the typical excuse. I notice however that David Duke is not accorded the same respect by Democrats who use him as their tool.

    We republicans never are anti voting. We will in fact seek to register them to vote.

    What you call the law of the land I call a ruling by the Supreme Court. They on the winning side claim they defended the constitution. Sadly they never located the word marriage in the Constitution. Same thing Obama told to Pastor Rick Warren. If you saw him talk, he brought up it is not in the constitution.
     
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    And showing a total lack of respect for their constitution and the separation of powers, governance by decree. And the Democrats don't care as with Obama and some of his EO and Clinton and her Email scandal.
     
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    The right thinks the law is something to be followed. The left thinks it's a hindrance and something to be gotten around.
     
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    And yet you continually ignore the hostility against constitutional rights being demonstrated by those who align with liberal and progressive ideologies that government needs to have ever greater authority over the lives of the public.

    And yet it is exclusively the politicians who align with liberal ideologies who continually attempt to require government permission to be achieved before someone can legally exercise their second amendment rights.
     

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