Muslim Dad Khizr Khan Tells CNN Terror ‘Has Nothing to Do with Islam’

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    Isn't this the guy Clint Eastwood described as "the poor slob that was exploited by the DNC"?

    Two Belgian Police Officers Attacked By Machete-Wielding Man Shouting "Allahu Akbar"

    ~Motives unclear.
     
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    Brietbart's mission is not to educate or inform, its to foment fear and hatred... Trump style.
     
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    Yes, let's not take the Bible literally - let's, for example, agree that the "resurrection/come-back-to-earth" thing is not to be taken literally, because that's just insane (so you're not going to survive your own death), but rather an interesting metaphor for rebirth. Let's be intellectually consistent.
     
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    Every individual Muslim comes to his own opinion of who are "True adherents of Islam". But terrorism we see today has EVERYTHING to do with the words written in the Koran and Hadiths. ISIS Al Qaeda and the likes are fighting to return Islam to its original form written in the koran and hadiths. And from its inception in 632 until the 1920s, and now again for the last few years, the Islamic Caliphate, applying Islamic doctrine of the koran and hadiths as law, is a fundamental component of "Islam". Just as the duty to fight the unbelievers to establish, expand and defend the Islamic Caliphate is a fundamental component of Islam. If we define Islam as the doctrine of the koran and hadiths.

    [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

    [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

    [2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...

    2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

    [2.246] ...May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

    [3.169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

    [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

    [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    [9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain;

    [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

    [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/

    Motto of the Muslim Brotherhood, that Khan would allege has nothing to do with Islam.

    "Allah is our objective. The Prophet is our leader. The Qur'an is our law. Jihad is our way. Dying in the way of God is our highest hope."
     
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    Then of course this "Allah" is not, actually, the all-knowing perfect being if he's such an obviously incredibly lousy communicator.
     
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    Considering that Jesus was never known to even ever have held a sword in his hand, not taking his statement literally would seem to be appropriate.
     
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    I never said anything remotely relating to the power of Allah. Not sure where your coming from. But it sounds a little sarcastic and angry. Many want to simplify the Islamic religion rather then look at the complexity of it. There are those practitioners that prefer (and were talking about millions) who prefer to practice the more peaceful aspects of the religion. For instance it's a tenant of the religion that you cannot forcibly convert someone to the Islamic religion. That person would not be considered a true practitioner of the religion. Many of the contradictions are a matter of interpretation of what the Quran in it's entirety really means The problem is that we in the west have determined what is in the hearts and minds of all practitioners of Islam without considering that there is more than one faction and more than one approach. The vast majority of practitioners throughout the world are not violence oriented. Lol but for political purposes some Americans can't stand that idea. They need the religion simplified.
     
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    Christians have various levels of belief, depending upon their levels of comprehension and capacity...as do the followers of most if not all religions and schools of thought.
     
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    Mohammad said "kill those who leave their Islamic religion"....can you condemn a clear call to murder like that, or is being politically-correct more important to you than condemning cold-blooded murder, FL?
     
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    I think we can agree that if you or I were in Allah's all-powerful shoes that you and I would have communicated better than Allah did - as the Islamic texts are obviously so confusing that we have Muslims killing innocent people all around the world for Allah.
     
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    No, I just know when someone is trying hijack the topic & you, in this case, are that someone.
     
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    Typical. When you bots can't defend your fellow travelers you just attack the messenger. Come back when you can defend Khan's own words or just go back in your hole.
     
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    Attacking that gold star family has done wonders for the trump campaign. At some point, you're going to have to accept that your beliefs are ridiculous and only shared by others whose primary attribute is ignorance. Or, you can take up arms against the US government and go after a wildlife refuge.
     
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    Same old crap repeated many times. This is purely for the poster to reinforce the same old propaganda

    And the vast majority of practitioners of Islam throughout the world do not practice violence and in fact they shun it. Also more peaceful practitioners die at the hands of terrorists than any other ethnic group.

    More B,S. falsely claims that the Koran is pure evil without proof or evidence. Totally ignores the thousands of quotes that speak of peace love and how to live your life within the religion itself. Same old repeated crap but must make the poster feel good

    Same old crap repeated many times
    Totally misleading forgets that he is talking about a slim minority of Islam and tries to smear all those who practice Islam with a broad brush. Hatefull propaganda. There is more than one approach to those who practice Islam throughout the world’ But not mentioned here

    This tries again to portray all those who practice Islam throughout the world think this way like pre-programed robots. Another smear job.


    In know way represents the Quran. Taken out of context

    Same old quotes used time and again and doesn't represent the Quran

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    Weve seen this before too

    Ignores thousands of quotes from the Quran that speak of peace and love. Totally re-re- re- printed cherry picked crap

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    Seen this a million times on other propaganda sites. Cherry picked out of thousands of quotes in the Quran

    This is monotonous but it makes the poster feel good and warm

    Can't you do something original ? Do you know how many times you've used this crap on the site??

    [ 476 ] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shai[4.76tan is weak.

    Blah Blah boring

    Quotes out of pure hatred. Actually thinks the repetition is proving a point.

    More often repeated monotony

    Wow! very insecure and by the way this has nothing to do with debating since this does't represent the entirety of the Quran in the least.

    More pile on

    This is strictly for the poster definitely not a balanced presentation of the Quran. Just crap piled on and on.
    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/ http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/ http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/browse.html




    Like everything else on this post Khan is absolutely quoted out of context with his meaning distorted. All because there are those who hate American war heroes if their of a certain ethnic background. Let me try to straighten this mess out. Khan was saying that the true practitioners of Islam want peace and harmony. Khan has an absolute right to believe this and there are many others who believe as well. So once again donnie the orange- **** forbids him to believe what he wants to. But according to Khan's belief. Those who practice violence are not truly practicing Islam and are criminals and out casts. Like I said Orange-**** for political purposes distorts his words and smears his meaning.
    I looked at the source of the quotes . . And out of the thousands of topics it offered on the Quran the poster cherry picked only the worst about Islam. Want proof here is the vast variety of topics on Islam but the poster only cherry pick out of thousand the worst on this site. Take a look:
    The Koran
    Browse

    The Opening
    The Cow
    The Family of Imran
    The Women
    The Dinner Table
    The Cattle
    The Elevated Places
    The Accessions
    The Immunity
    Jonah
    The Holy Prophet
    Yusuf
    The Thunder
    Abraham
    The Rock
    The Bee
    The Children of Israel
    The Cave
    Marium
    Ta Ha
    The Prophets
    The Pilgrimage
    The Believers
    The Light
    The Distinction
    The Poets
    The Ant
    The Narratives
    The Spider
    The Romans
    Luqman
    The Adoration
    The Clans
    The Saba
    The Originator
    Yasin
    The Rangers
    Suad
    The Companions
    The Believer
    Ha Mim
    The Counsel
    Ornaments of Gold
    The Smoke
    The Kneeling
    The Sandhills
    Muhammad
    The Victory
    The Chambers
    Qaf
    The Scatterers
    The Mountain
    The Star
    The Moon
    The Beneficent
    The Event
    The Iron
    She Who Pleaded
    The Banishment
    The Examined One
    The Ranks
    The Congregation
    The Hypocrites
    The Mutual Deceit
    The Divorce
    The Prohibition
    The Kingdom
    The Pen
    The Inevitable
    The Ways of Ascent
    Nuh
    The Jinn
    The Wrapped Up
    The Covered One
    The Resurrection
    Time
    The Sent Forth
    The Great Event
    The Draggers
    He Frowned
    The Folded Up
    The Cleaving
    The Deceivers in Measuring
    The Rending Asunder
    The Celestial Stations
    The Nightly Visitant
    The Most High
    The Overwhelming Calamity
    The Daybreak
    The City
    The Sun
    The Night
    The Brightness
    The Expansion
    The Fig
    The Clot
    The Grandeur
    The Clear Evidence
    The Quaking
    The Chargers
    The Calamity
    Vying in Abundance
    The Age
    The Slanderer
    The Elephant
    The Qureaish
    Alms
    The Abundance of Good
    The Disbelievers
    The Help
    The Flame
    The Unity
    The Dawn
    The People
     
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    . Those who are prone to violence or teach violence simply use the quran for their own purposes.

    . The vast majority chose a more peaceful route. But we in the west those like orang-**** cherry pick the worst parts of the Quran for political purposes and to promote fear and confusion here in the U.S. And try to project this on the vast majority of practitioners. And once again Khan is mis-quoted and his meaning is distorted beyond all recognition.
     
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    My beliefs are ridiculous? Screw that...Khan's the one who's beliefs aren't just ridiculous, they're dangerous! Get a Frikkin clue! And, speaking of ridiculous, you're supporting one of most unethical, dishonest, corrupt politicians on the planet. And even worse...YOU KNOW IT!
     
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    Came across this on Facebook. I have no idea how accurate it is, but it does raise eyebrows.

     
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    So Mr. Muslim-dad Khan sees no connection between violence, murder, torture, assassination, and Islam? Gee, is HE a Muslim? Maybe he never read his own "holy book" called the Quran...? It's all right there for everyone to see, and, unlike the violence that was practiced in other religions hundreds or thousands of years ago, Islam's "true believers" practice their crimes every single day, make headlines, and fill the internet.

    Here is all you need to know about Islam if you are one of the "crusader Infidels": http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/violence.aspx

    [​IMG]. "I don't believe in anything, so they won't cut my head off... right?"
     
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    This ladies and gentlemen, is how conservatives get their news. Pathetic.

    Why would something "raise eyebrows" if you were not sure of the validity of it?
     
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    Their beloved child died at the hands of a form of Islam that he says doesn't exist.
     
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    He would be considered a true practitioner by Muhammad.

    Dr. al-Buti “The Jurisprudence of Muhammad’s Biography”

    (p. 287) "It may be said, 'What is the value of a faith in Islam which is a result of a threat? Abu Sufyan, one moment ago, was not a believer, then he believed after he was threatened by death.' We say to those who question: 'What is required of an infidel or the one who confuses other gods with God, is to have his tongue surrender to the religion of God and to subdue himself to the prophethood of Muhammad. But his heart felt faith is not required at the beginning. It will come later."
     
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    ???? The problem is they are written so clearly.

    [3.151] We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve, because they set up with Allah that for which He has sent down no authority, and their abode is the fire, and evil is the abode of the unjust.

    [2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.(*)

    [2.193] And fight with them until there is no persecution, and religion should be only for Allah...(*)

    2.216] Fighting is enjoined on you, and h is an object of dislike to you; and it may be that you dislike a thing while it is good for you, and it may be that you love a thing while it is evil for you, and Allah knows, while you do not know.

    [2.246] ...May it not be that you would not fight if fighting is ordained for you? They said: And what reason have we that we should not fight in the way of Allah, and we have indeed been compelled to abandon our homes and our children. But when fighting was ordained for them, they turned back, except a few of them, and Allah knows the unjust.

    [3.169] And reckon not those who are killed in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive (and) are provided sustenance from their Lord;

    [4.74] Therefore let those fight in the way of Allah, who sell this world's life for the hereafter; and whoever fights in the way of Allah, then be he slain or be he victorious, We shall grant him a mighty reward.

    [4.76] Those who believe fight in the way of Allah, and those who disbelieve fight in the way of the Shaitan. Fight therefore against the friends of the Shaitan; surely the strategy of the Shaitan is weak.

    [9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

    [9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.

    [9.111] Surely Allah has bought of the believers their persons and their property for this, that they shall have the garden; they fight in Allah's way, so they slay and are slain;(*)

    [9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

    [47.4] So when you meet in battle those who disbelieve, then smite the necks until when you have overcome them

    http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/koran/
     
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    Revealing. I made no such claims about the Koran. I simply quoted from the Koran. AND YOU interpreted those verses as evil.

    Like the Christian bible has the new testament and the old, the Koran has the Meccan and Medinan verses. The more peaceful and tolerant Meccan verses are abrogated by the later written, more violent and intolerant Medinan verses.
     
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    I'll save you some eyebrow time.

    It's not Mrs. Khan.

    Now you can go back to looking for more phony gin up juice to get your hackles jacked.
     

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