CNN Stunned When Fact Checkers Confirm Clinton Phones Destroyed With Hammers

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  1. MMC

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    Gowdy said. "The public will find the timeline and witness responses and failures to respond instructive."....snip~


    Yes.....simple incompetence committed by the FBI and Comey. Just missed the obvious.
     
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    Destroying them with hammers? So what?

    How else would they do it?

    Sounds like a smart move.

    Hillary wins again. As usual.
     
  3. MMC

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    Really Andy.....tell us how it is a smart move to disregard Subpoenas. :laughing:
     
  4. MMC

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    Really.....when did the time run out on the subpoenas? Got a link to show us the subpoenas weren't in full effect?
     
  5. MMC

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    Looks like due to the deletion of emails and how they were deleted and when. Chaffetz decided it was time to raise those questions.


    In reviewing those files, the Committee identified a sequence of events that may amount to obstruction of justice and destruction of evidence by Secretary Clinton and her employees and contractors, including her attorneys, employees of Platte River Networks, and employees of Clinton Executive Services Corporation," a letter sent Tuesday to the U.S. Attorney for the District of Columbia by House Oversight Chairman Jason Chaffetz states.

    “In light of this information, the Department should investigate and determine whether Secretary Clinton or her employees and contractors violated statutes that prohibit destruction of records, obstruction of congressional inquiries, and concealment or cover up of evidence material to a congressional investigation.”

    Essentially, Chaffetz is asking if evidence was deleted under subpoena.

    The letter includes a timeline of document requests and subpoenas from the Oversight Committee, the Benghazi Select Committee and the response from Clinton and her staff.

    A letter was also sent to Platte River Networks, the company responsible for hosting Clinton's private email servers.

    “In brief, the summaries of the FBI’s interviews with a PRN engineer show that within days of a conference call with Secretary Clinton’s lawyers, the engineer deleted archives of Secretary Clinton’s emails, despite knowing those records were covered by preservation orders and a subpoena from Congress," a separate letter from the Committee states. "The sequence of events leading up to the destruction of Secretary Clinton’s emails… raises questions about whether Secretary Clinton, acting through her attorneys, instructed PRN to destroy records relevant to the then-ongoing congressional investigations.”

    Byron York points out that based on the evidence presented in the FBI report and the timeline of events with Clinton's email deletion, it is likely staffer deleted emails while under subpoena from Congress. The letter from Chaffetz officially makes that inquiry.....snip~

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiep...rsight-committee-clinton-obstruction-n2214383

    Imagine that, huh? :laughing:
     
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    too bad she never gave the same attention and effort to US cybersecurity as she did to clinton cybersecurity. lets see her make a joke about wiping the servers with a hammer now
     
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    Hillary Cult member.....there is no need to lie. Your timeline excuse has failed. Chaffetz has called for the inquiry.

    2) Mrs. Clinton's initial publicly-stated rationale for setting up her national security-endangering private server in the first place was that it facilitated the "convenience" of using a single mobile device. This excuse was quickly debunked by both public records and Clinton's own public statements about using several such devices concurrently. On Friday, the public learned that Hillary used at least 13 mobile devices during her tenure at State. Why so many? An astonishing detail:

    She lost an unspecified number of these Blackberry phones. Ultimately, "the FBI was unable to acquire or forensically examine any of these 13 mobile devices,” according to the documents, although they managed to determine that when the whereabouts of her old devices did not "become unknown," one of her staffers would beat them with a hammer. Hillary Clinton was personally warned by State Department security officials on two separate occasions that using non-secure, private mobile devices for official business posed a risk to state secrets. Remember, she wasn't supposed to be sending or receiving any classified material on an unsecure system in the first place. Despite these explicit admonitions, she continued her conduct anyway -- then misplaced an unknown number of these unauthorized devices, packed with sensitive intelligence, on multiple occasions. Mind-boggling.....snip~

    http://townhall.com/tipsheet/guyben...-in-fbis-email-scandal-document-dump-n2213441
     
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    No I mean three weeks after they were sent notification and then subpoena's for ALL emails in their possession and three days after a conference call with Hillary's lawyers and staff the Platte River person wiped the server and the archives with the BleachBit program to insure no one could ever retrieve them, or so he thought. Of course we did and in spite of Clinton's perjurous statement that ALL if her official emails were turned over and they error on that side of them being official, we got 17,000 work releated emails not turned over and some extremely damaging they had tried to destroy.

    But of course that doesn't matter to you does it, prima facie evidence of not just obstruction of justice but consciousness of guilty, intent to destroy evidence of guilt.
     
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    Haha, that has nothing to do with her phones. You're all over the place. And the other BS you have just wrote was not a destruction of evidence. The FBI found no evidence that she did anything to violate any laws. Destroying evidence would be evidence, lol. Don't you ever get tired of being wrong about everything?
     
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    The phones and servers are intertwined. Your attempt to divorce them from each other is ludicrous. The FBI said that she did, in fact, violate the letter of the law, but that they did not find intent. She was not prosecuted because the White House intervened. They were told to look the other way.
     
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    Now they will be told they have to cover up the obstruction and the breaking of Court Orders. What the FBI should do.....is record BO and Loretta anytime they opened their mouths. Catch them telling others to cover it up or over.

    Then set the marks asses out to the Public.
     
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    Not true.

    You said:

    "She went through 13 phones in 4 years"

    If you'd bothered to read the actual FBI report, you'd see it was eight.

    "FBI investigation identified 13 total mobile devices, associated with her two known phone numbers, 212[redacted] and 212[redacted] which potentially were used to send e-mails using Clinton's clintonemail.com e-mail addresses. Investigation determined Clinton used in succession 11 e-mail capable BlackBerry mobile devices associated with 212[redacted] eight of which she used during her tenure as Secretary of State."


    https://vault.fbi.gov/hillary-r.-clinton/hillary-r.-clinton-part-01-of-02/at_download/file

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    I don't think they do. In fact, I think they kind of like it.

    Some people just love being spanked.
     
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    Please show me where the state department, FBI said the phone destruction was against protocol.

    Face reality, destruction of the phones did exactly what it was supposed to do, securely dispose of any information on them. Why does this make you angry? Because you want to dig through that information in a witch hunt to try to destroy her.

    Everyone that is not wearing partisan blinders knows that republicans have political motivations for investigation after investigation of their political enemies. Whether it is spending over $60 Million of taxpayer money to get Bill Clinton to lie about a blow job, or tens of millions to investigate Benghazi longer and deeper than the 9/11 investigation, and still come up with anything that was not true for any of the hundreds of other attacks against US diplomatic locations.

    But all this works for a few... you can fool some of the people all the time. So the millions of wasted money and time spend on partisan investigations get some people to rabidly drool over smashed phones in conspiracy theories... Let me ask, how do you think Condoleezza Rice disposed of her phones? Would you be mad if her phones were destroyed so information could not be retrieved from them? If this is really what you think matters, then fine. Let's investigate state department IT equipment disposal protocols and try to blame political enemies for not following them, but not care in the slightest how your party disposes of IT equipment... Ask yourself if you really are being objective... Or have you been watching too many right wingers rant and rave on "commentary" shows on "news" networks.
     
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    The proper term would be destruction of government property

    Destruction Of Government Property -- 18 U.S.C. § 1361

    here is the interesting part

    if the damage exceeds $100, the defendant is subject to a fine of up to $250,000, ten years imprisonment, or both. See Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994, Pub. L. 103-322, § 330016, 108 Stat. 1796, 2146-47 (1994). When property damage does not exceed $100, the offense is a misdemeanor punishable by a fine of up to $100,000, one year imprisonment, or both.
     
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    Well said.
     
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    Losing them and not reporting they have been lost. Would also be part of that.
     
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    The American ruling elite don't care about no stinkin laws. ;-)
     
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    Looks like that applies to their Cult following. Goes with their inability to identify reality.

    When do you think they can debunk the subpoena issue? Another month or two from now? :laughing:
     
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    When the law cannot be applied to a corrupt ruling political class a lawless government born and will thrive outside the law..
     
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    It was me. I'm right wing. I started this whole conspiracy.
     
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    This issue gives even more credibility to Hillary as far as Democrats are concerned. There is a reason why most people who are incarcerated in the US tend to be Democrat leaning. It is in the nature of Democrats to accept illegal activity as a branding, a badge of honor.
     
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