Jewish community FURIOUS at re-election of 'antisemitic' Jeremy Corbyn

Jewish community FURIOUS at re-election of 'antisemitic' Jeremy Corbyn

JEWISH campaigners have reacted with fury to the reelection of Jeremy Corbyn, warning that with the left-winger in charge the Labour Party is “no longer a safe place for British Jews”.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/71...isemitism-claims-Jeremy-Corbyn-elected-leader

I don't get this. Where do these people feel safe? The great Jewish writer/historian, Gilad Atzmon wrote a really good piece on this. He titled it "Yawn…Jews Are Furious Once Again ." He makes some great points. You can check it out here:
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2016/9/25/yawnjews-are-furious-once-again

 

They are pissed because they always voted for the labour and now they can't, what problem do you have with "these" ppl who once you claimed to be part of (Is the Arab prepared to flush himself yet ? no ? no worries we like you all the same )

 

As Gilad wrote: "Yawn…Jews Are Furious Once Again"
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/2016/9/25/yawnjews-are-furious-once-again

 

Who cares what Gilad wrote ? British Jews have the right to be angry and vote what they wish for, Islamic dogma may have conqured the Labour but not yet Britain, its still a free country.

 

Islamists have conquered Britain

 

Been reading RW propaganda again.

 

No, it's not that and why would they not vote Labour? It is not because Corbyn is antismetic. That was tried at his previous run for leadership but people have pretty much got that that is a losing horse given that he isn't and is well known for his strong anti racism throughout his many decades in Parliament. The Antisemitism thing seemed to be run more by the Blairites in the Labour Party and of course the issue is not antisemitism but the very real reality that he is critical of Israel. You will I am sure have heard of all the stuff about Labour and antisemitism. There was possibly a few instances most of them before he became leader but most of this which involved things like suspending a Jewish/African woman who works against racism for alleged antisemitism because of something taken out of context on her twitter account ...and that was what a lot of it was...but it wasn't really about antisemitism it was about the fear that Britain could have a leader who was critical of Israel.

Now, the thing is you are wrong to believe that Jews have always had a Labour Party which was Pro Israel. From some time in the 80's 90's till after 9/11, the Labour Party was seriously critical of Israel. One of the things they were pledging to do when they got into office which they did in 97 was to get onto the US and get them to stop encouraging Israel not to honour Oslo. When Tony Blair made that speech in the US after 9/11 claiming that they were going to sort out the cause of this the Middle East I believed that he was talking about exactly that. Of course he was not. He was talking about stopping working for conflict resolution and getting Oslo in place and instead giving Israel the right to bomb the hell out of Palestinians all she wanted and put the rest in prison. He was talking about opting out of responsibility.

http://www.lrb.co.uk/v33/n05/alastair-crooke/permanent-temporariness

Now during the time when Labour was critical of Israel we had a shadow foreign secretary who was himself a Jew and was and is one of the most critical of Israel in Britain. During that time I never heard Jews complaining about this....but obviously things have changed since then.

From what I hear much less Jewish people vote Labour than used to having seen their standard of living rise. Labour itself or certainly it's Blairite section is very pro Israel....but not necessarily everyone - remember the Backbencher vote on recognising Palestine got almost 100% agreement. Within the Labour Party then there are some pro Blair Jews who along with non Jew Blairites have heavily tried to get the antismitism thing going because they hate Corbyn, not least because he is critical of Israel. However in the Labour Party there are also a number of Jews who are left wing and they like Corbyn are critical of Israel so they have no problem at all.

Corbyn got probably the most respected person re racism to do a report on the issue of antisemitism Shami Chakrabarti. All the different Jewish groups in Britain who are critical of Israel also put in their papers on the position as they saw it - not least that when antisemitism is called because of criticism of Israel, it loses credibility.

Her report was very balanced http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36672022

There isn't any question that some right wing Jews are still trying to make a fuss about this but I think all attempts to lay this on Corbyn himself gave up some time ago. I noticed the article was about a complaint by some group called 'the Campaign Against Antisemitism'. I am not sure who they are but I think they may be the group who got started after your 2014 war with the intent on showing that Britain was supremely antisemetic. They sent out a questionnaire to Jews and then came back saying it was so. Jews described the questionnaire as being designed to terrify them the way the questions were put but everybody and that includes our genuine Jewish Organisations who report on this made clear that this was in no way a reputable study. (Mind you, Theresa May believed them. 'I never knew there was so much antisemitism in the UK' she said) There isn't.

 

A huge non-story

 

I don't know much on politics over there. I will admit that. At the same time, judging from what we have seen in the press and here on this board, I'll go ahead and assume he is one of the good guys.

 

Labour leader reveals he admires Israel’s ‘spirit and verve’ at highly-charged community hustings at JW3.
http://jewishnews.timesofisrael.com/jeremy-corbyn-praises-israel-at-jewish-news-debate/

 

I think after everything that's happened to them they might be a little bit worried and angry when in a free country an antisemitic can get into power

 

What has this man done to be labeled an anti-Semite?

 

It is my contention you have posed a subjective statement/opinion that Corbyn is not an anti-Semite as a question to invite others
to also deny he is an anti semite. When coupled with your thread starter it necessarily asks people to single out Jews of
having accused Corbyn of being an anti semite and invites comments that deny he is an anti semite but that also like the tone
you have set in your original post, single out Jews for having this opinion.

Let's be clear. Not only Jews or people in the Jewish community think Corbyn is not just an anti semite but an ignorant man who
has said ignorant things about many people and targeted groups.

Let's be crystal clear. The opposition to him is not limited to Jews as this thread and you infer.

Any attempt to solicit anti semitic denial of Corbyn with anti Jew comments thrown in, will further
evidence the agenda of this thread and what I argue you are trying to solicit.

I urge people not to respond with anti semitic comments attacking Jews using this
thread as a pretext to do so.

To try defuse that I have provided sites that show the critique of Corbyn is not an issue that
should be used as a pretext to single out Jews as being the only people to question
what he is doing:

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...m-corbyn-israel-and-antisemitism-dave-rich-re

http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/202104/anti-semitism-labour-party-corbyn

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-and-the-anti-semitism-row-that-just-wont-go/

http://www.tabletmag.com/scroll/204...r-writing-about-anti-semitism-in-labour-party

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/07/jeremy-corbyn-speaks-anti-semitism-inquiry/


If discussing this issue is used as a pretext to attack and insult Jews then it is necessarily hateful,, antic-semitic, inflammatory and
should be condemned for that.

 

Or they have liberated them form the zionists - depending on which hysteric side you are cheering from.

 

Islamists have not conquered the UK (Ronstar) nor have Islamists liberated the UK from Zionists.

The UK obviously has a large Muslim population that contains a segment of anti semites.

Not all anti semites in the UK are Muslim. Not all anti Muslim extremists in the UK are
Jewish or non Muslim.

Negative stereotyping of any people does not produce intelligent debate, just hatred. We have enough of
that on these threads. Let's challenge it and contain it.

The stereotypes are a crock.

The name calling and stereotypes does not address the issue but it sure as hell feeds into
hateful discourse and that is why I challenge people not to smeer any one when discussing
this issue.

 

Strange, because:

Labour, Jeremy Corbyn, and the anti-Semitism row that just won’t go away

This afternoon, the Labour leader was interrogated by the Home Affairs select committee about anti-Semitism.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...-and-the-anti-semitism-row-that-just-wont-go/

-and-

Chief Rabbi condemns 'offensive' Corbyn anti-Semitism comments
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36676018

 

So, has anyone figured out how this guy is anti-Semitic?

 

and the anti-Semites in Britian seem to have the support of the Left

 

So, has anyone figured out how this guy is anti-Semitic?

 

well for one thing, how come he never talks about bigotry and discrimination that goes on in Iran, or Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan, or Afghanistan?

seems he enjoys obsessing over one of the smallest countries on Earth.



why do you think he obsesses over little Israel? is it a pathology?

 

Even the head of Mossad has stated that Israeli actions are a foreign policy problem for America.

We're in favor of the rule of law, democracy, humanitarianism, equal treatment, etc.

With Israel being a highly powerful (regardless of size) democratic nation in the ME, a nation receiving STUPENDOUS support from the US, it's policies reflect horribly on what we stand for.

It brings huge doubt that our interests have anything to do with better government or better conditions or better representation of the peoples of countries throughout the ME.

It adds credence to the claims of those in the region that our military intervention has a religious motivation.


There is NO possibility that our concern about Israel is overstated.

 

Jeremy Corbyn is a very strange bird.

he obsessively attacks Israel and Israelis, while ignoring the Saudis, Afghans, Iranians, Pakistanis and others who brutally discriminate against and persecute minorities, women, Gays.

Corbyn has a strange and almost pathological obsession with Israel.

he calls out Israel mistreatment of Arabs as Nazi-like, but meanwhile calls Hamas "my friends", even though Hamas has a much worse track record on human rights than Israel does.

what causes such a man to be so obsessed with such a small country?