Jewish community FURIOUS at re-election of 'antisemitic' Jeremy Corbyn

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  1. SamSkwamch

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    So, has anyone figured out how this guy is anti-Semitic?
     
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    why is he sooo obsessed with Israel?

    doesn't he have anything better to do with his life?

    its like, all he does is attack Israel, when there are MUCH worse violaters of human rights, all over the world.

    Saudis, Pakistanis, Iranians, Afghanis, have miserable records when it comes to human rights, womens rights, Gay rights, etc etc,.

    and yet this stupid little (*)(*)(*)(*)(*) always focuses on little itty bitty Israel.

    sounds like a pathological obsession to me.

    maybe he should get some professional help, as such obsessions aint healthy
     
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    I have no idea who he is or if he is indeed Anti-Semitic, what has he done that shows he is Anti-Semitic?

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    Corbyn= terrorist supporter

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    Jeremy Corbyn= Communist sympathizer

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    What is strange? You just presented evidence to suggest not only Jews have a problem with Corbyn despite your attempt
    to single out Jews as the only people complaining about him.

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    You were provided a direct answer to the above and also provided your own references answering the above,
    so asking the question as you do again shows the tactic you are now using.
     
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    You have no idea? Why? Who is stopping you from finding out? What is your point?

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    You were provided a direct answer to the above and also provided your own references answering the above,
    so asking the question as you do again after being given a direct response not to mention providing your own
    response providing the answer shows the tactics you now choose to engage in on this thread..
     
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    what is stopping you from telling us? you bothered to reply but not answer the question? why?
     
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    that is insulting, no one is doing that, were just asking what the man did that was anti-Semitic, we may agree with you

    if he did many things, just list the top 3

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    I already replied directly. As well I am not your servant. Nothing stops you from finding out yourself.

    You may have this feeling of self entitlement but let me make it clear, I am not here to serve you.
     
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    You find it insulting. Good. I find the entire premises for the thread, the responses from SamS and yours insulting.

    Now, I provided a direct answer to your question already. If you don't want to read it don't. If its too difficult for you to understand:plug:
    I am not here to tutor you or give you special education assistance.

    There is ample evidence on the internet explaining why Corbyn has been criticized. You can either read it or ignore it. I
    could care less what you do.
     
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    so the op calls this guy anti-Semitic and you find it insulting that anyone would ask what he did that was anti-Semitic? sorry to of offended you - lol
     
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    Corbyn is obsessed with Israel.

    seems like a pathological obsession.

    many Muslim nations have much worse human rights records, and hurt many more people.

    but Corbyn instead obsesses over little Israel.

    is he sick in the head? why his obsession?
     
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    Fresh, have you figured out how this guy is anti-Semitic. I still have not seen any evidence of it. This is just weird at this point.
     
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    his pathological obsession with attacking Israel, while ignoring Islamist bigotry and even celebrating Hamas, may be due to an anti-Jewish bias.
     
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    Still, not a shred of evidence has been posted that would lead any logical person to believe that this man is an anti-Semite.
     
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    his anti-Jewish obsession may be symptomatic of anti-Semitism..

    why else would someone constantly and obsessively attack Israel when there are much larger countries that discriminate and persecute many more people?
     
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    I certainly hope your not referring to me, as that would be a huge lie and I definitely do not support Hamas
     
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    no, i am talking about Corbyn
     
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    Corbyn does not support hamas, Ron. You are just making stuff up. And you still have posted ZERO EVIDENCE showing that the man is an anti-Semite. But, that's OK.
     
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    what kinda things does he say, if he is anti-semitic, this should be easy, I start to question titles like this when no one can list some examples

    like calling Trump a racist, sure, then list off why one thinks that, personally I think Trump hates everyone equally and only loves himself
     
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    there is lots of evidence that he supports Hamas.

    he called them his "friends".

    he's been to Hamas rallies.
     
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    So, not one shred of evidence has been posted that suggests he is anti-Semitic.

    Figures.
     
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    Interesting how little people know of Jeremy Corbin, Saudi Arabia don't like him much,
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...emy-corbyn-over-lack-of-respect-a6708671.html

    Please show where he has ever made one anti-jewish statement, let alone shown an anti-jewish obsession. The man has constantly fought racism of any sort and believes passionately in peace, he has never attended a Hamas or Hezbollah rally.
     
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    That is a serious and ugly allegation which you would need to back up. I suspect that what you are muddling up is criticism of Israel and antisemitism and that I think is what this argument is about - that is whether criticism of Israel is antisemitism. It is true that in the main British Jews who are critical of Israel tend to be on the left - probably just leftist values like social justice and so on influencing how they think. The Palestinian Solidarity Campaign which in Britain is supported by many Jews certainly according to them is strongly against any anti-Semitism. However there is something in what you say. Several years ago Robert Frisk warned that continually equating anti-Semitism with criticism of Israel was a very dangerous thing to do. In time he foresaw it would begin to be thought to be a plus to be labelled antisemetic. He believed that by continuing to try and equate crtiticism of Israel with anti-Semitism a time would come when people who were antisemetic would come out of the closets and start gaining credence and possibly we are seeing that beginning now and that is indeed a dangerous situation for Jews. This situation in the UK I believe is about politics - in this instance using anti-Semitism to try and stop the growing interest in a left wing alternative to the current global situation by identifying criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism including when it is from Jews. I believe this is a very dangerous situation. Our courts have already ruled that criticism of Israel is not anti-Semitism so this appears to be another way to try and get this passed and the power behind it appears to be both the Blairite section of the Labour Party and a not too great pro Israeli source basically the same one as the source of this thread which is spoken about in this article from May when all this took off.

    https://jamiesternweiner.wordpress....unt-turns-on-leading-anti-racist-campaigners/

    Now as far as dealing with antisemtisim is concerned Jews for Justice for Palestinians have been working on this. They for instance invited Muslims from many different strands to come and meet them and talk about things and said that all but the very outer threads were keen to come, many of them never having met a Jew before. After getting to know each other and finding to their surprise that there were some Jews who did not give 100% to whatever Israel does their thinking changed and for instance they found themselves able to believe and find abhorrent the holocaust which most of their new friends had lost family in. JFJFP also handed out leaflets at the beginning of marches against the 2014 Gaza war explaining to people what anti-Semitism was and was not which they said people were glad to have. I would say they have been working actively and productively against anti-Semitism.

    We find ourselves then now at a time when there is pressure to equate criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism and that is what the Blairites/right wing Jews appear to be trying to do while groups like JFJFP although accepting that anti-Semites can use criticism of Israel to try and further their anti-Semitism believe the best way to deal with antsemitism is along classically accepted lines. To keep criticism of Israel separate from anti-Semitism. In that way one can further distinguish between the two and hence keep genuine anti-Semitism as unacceptable. We appear to now be at a point where one of these viewpoints will win. If it is the one equating criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism then thousands of our Jews will overnight become antisemites and without question the door will be open for genuine antisemites to find a plausible place to work on creating hatred of Jews. It is a far more important issue than I think those in favour of having criticism of Israel equated with anti-Semitism which I am guessing from your post I have quoted you do, realise.
     
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    Althought Hamas does have an armed wing, it is also a political party, with elected officials and responsabilities towards the population it serves.

    Besides, Israel itself propped up Hamas (to topple PLO, ironically). Is Israel antisemite?
     

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