Smoking Cannabis is equivalent to playing russian roulette with your brain

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  1. ryobi

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    Is it possible to explain science to the drug addled brains of people's whos favorite intellectual medium is the cartoon network, LOL

    """""The p-value is used in the context of null hypothesis testing in order to quantify the idea of statistical significance of evidence.[a] Null hypothesis testing is a reductio ad absurdum argument adapted to statistics. In essence, a claim is shown to be valid by demonstrating the improbability of the consequence that results from assuming the counter-claim to be true.

    As such, the only hypothesis that needs to be specified in this test and which embodies the counter-claim is referred to as the null hypothesis. A result is said to be statistically significant if it allows us to reject the null hypothesis. That is, as per the reductio ad absurdum reasoning, the statistically significant result should be highly improbable if the null hypothesis is assumed to be true. The rejection of the null hypothesis implies that the correct hypothesis lies in the logical complement of the null hypothesis."""""

    IN OTHER WORDS, the likelihood that you'd get a P value smaller than a significance alpha value of .05% or .01% is so unlikely that IT IS ABSURD.

    LOL

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    I didn't disagree with the claims of the study you posted. Maybe you are the one that should be working on something; mainly reading comprehension. But please continue with more copy pasta.
     
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    Doubling down on stupid doesn't help you here. You and the study you cited have shown a correlation. You have failed to show causation.

    Could have sworn I tried to give you a heads up about questioning others intelligence after your argument was thoroughly demolished. Makes you look ridiculous.
     
  4. ryobi

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    Seriously LOL

    OK I'll try a new approach.

    P values are a lot like e-values in BLASTN a type of bioinformatics tool. BLASTN tells you how likely sequence homology is the result of chance. The smaller the e-value in BLASTN the less likely sequence homology is the result of chance. Similarly the smaller your P value the less likely the correlation between cannabis and schizophrenia is the result of chance.

    How about that?
     
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    "Smoking cannabis virtually doubles the risk of developing mental illnesses such as schizophrenia, researchers say. The New Zealand scientists said their study suggested this was probably due to chemical changes in the brain which resulted from smoking the drug.

    The researchers stated that "The weight of the evidence clearly suggests that the use of cannabis may alter underlying brain chemistry and precipitate the onset of psychosis [and therefore schizophrenia]... in vulnerable individuals," the University of Otago scientists reported in the journal, Addiction.

    In another news report on this research study, AAP in Brisbane wrote that in an interview the researchers stated " "The critical thing is that many researchers feel now that if people (with schizophrenia) had not smoked marijuana they would not have gone on to develop schizophrenia and that's a really important public health message.
     
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    Good thing most of us aren't teenagers.
     
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    At the end of the day, There is no substantial proof that smoking Marijuana has any effect as to cause schizophrenia, all this shows is that patients diagnosed with schizophrenia also smoked Marijuana, there is No way to prove such as cause & effect.

    The small minds of Narcissists tend to get insulting and repulsive when their silly pointless arguments are disproved.
     
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    I'm sure glad people who smoke marijuana are to lazy to accomplish anything in life because you guys could be dangerous LOL.
     
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    I reject the conclusions of this study. But even if it WERE accurate, that doesn't empower you to tell others what they can and cannot consume into their own bodies. You're simply not that important.
     
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    The pot Einstein smoked is not what is being marketed now. This isn't your daddy's pot. Some of the products have up to 75% thc and more. Users are suffering psychotic episodes.

    Your dopamine wears out the more you use it - hence the early onset of dementia among heavy users.
     
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    Sharpie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Anyway, if someone wants to make themselves stupid they certainly have the right. so long as they are barred from ever receiving social services.
    But the laws that were put in place in Colorado opened the door to many types of activity considered illegal in any other industry. Colorado is paying for it - big time.
     
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    Shows how much you don't know.
    There have been many deaths in Colorado because of marijuana overdoses. Emergency room visits are way up. Kids are doing delusional things like jumping off roofs. Others are blowing themselves up and burning down their apartment buildings trying to make oils.
     
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    zero deaths due to Marijuana overdoses

    people do stupid stuff drunk or high and even without them... drink responsibly, get high responsibly

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    not hardly


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    you sound like someone that has never been enlightened by the bud....

    people work hard, should be able to have a beer or a bud on the weekend, it's their life to live

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    So you were proven wrong twice so you thought you'd triple down? Lol
     
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    Showing a correlation but not a causation.


    this is an unsupported claim.
     
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    Provide evidence or admit you pulled that out of your ass.
     
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    Look, even if every single one of the allegations about Marijuana were true it's still not even close to being as bad as alcohol, and alcohol is legal.

    The ONLY reason people think marijuana should be illegal is so they can beat up on someone not exactly like them, the same way most such people just LIVE for the ability to beat up on anyone they conceive of as the "enemy", because they're gay, or not the right color, or religion, or short, tall, fat, thin bald or any of other ten thousand things that irritate conservatives. If anything should be illegal it's that attitude. Then again, if we did that we'd probably all be rich and living to 150 and beyond, can't have that, can we?
     
  18. ryobi

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    What studies say the benefits of smoking marijuana outweigh the detriments of smoking marijuana???
     
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    Just wanted to say I disagree with that poster, I don't think Marijuana is harmless, like some potheads do, and those people make our side look stupid. I don't believe marijuana cures Ebola, like some morons on the internet do.

    However, as another poster pointed out, it's less harmful than alcohol, which is legal. Ryobi, this is a consistancy check: Should alcohol be illegal? It's like playing Russian Roulette with your brain, because some people who drink end up developing Wet Brain, if you don't believe me, google it. So, using your logic, alcohol should be illegal as well, correct? Or should we continue to have a more harmful drug perfectly legal while demonizing the Least Harmful Drug Known to Man?
     
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    How many studies have been done on the consumption of milk and the development of schizophrenia involving a cohort of 50,087 subjects that found a linear relationship between cannabis consumption and the development of schizophrenia that came to the conclusion that Cannabis use is associated with an increased risk of developing schizophrenia, consistent with a causal relation, and furthermore the association is not explained by use of other psychoactive drugs and also personality traits????
     
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    Never once have I said marijuana should be illegal. If I have said that direct me to the post where I said it.

    I believe marijuana should be legal but I believe people should be allowed to be aware of its dangers.

    Marijuana is not a safe drug just because you cannot overdose on it like you can other drugs, including legal drugs like alcohol

    Schizophrenia is probably the most serious mental illness known to man and multiple studies have shown a casual rrelationship between marijuana and schizophrenia not just a correlation between people who smoke marijuana and have schizophrenia.

    It's been well known for some time that smoking marijuana causes some people to be paranoid. Do you dispute this???
     
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    How many stoners in this thread are honest and admit to driving while they're high???
     
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    I will.
     
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    No, I don't dispute that. And I'm glad you think it should be legal, but we both seem to agree it isn't harmless.

    Here's my stance on driving while high on marijuana - if you haven't smoked any in 6 months, and you smoke 2 joints and then get behind the wheel of a car, your tolerance will be so low that you will get very high and your reaction time will be slowed down enough to make it a danger to drive. However, people who smoke on a regular basis develop a tolerance, and I swear to whatever God you may or may not believe in that if I drive high, I MIGHT be slowed down one millisecond, but I still drive better than the 90yr. grandmother in the next lane, but the gov't doesn't tell her she can't drive.

    So sure, if someone gets really high and drives, they are endangering other drivers on the road, just like alcohol. But just as many people could actually handle 2 beers and drive, the law says anything over 1 is too much, they do this because it's just safer that way. Anyway, I'm rambling, so I'll sign off for now! :)
     
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    People who get lazy and not motivated when doing pot, were lazy and unmotivated before they started smoking pot.

    Carl Sagan smoked pot. The list of successful people who use pot as others might use social drinking is quite substantial.

    No developing brain should use any drugs, alcohol, pot, anti depressants. That is common sense, no degree needed. So like alcohol, pot should only be used by adults.

    It is the least harmful of any drug including alcohol. You do not over dose on it. It has particular medical uses, and few side effects, which is more than can be said for legal drugs.

    These are facts, and the most basic right, is the right to own one's own body, instead of you, or the state on your behalf. Once you take that most fundamental right away, the rest of them are easy to get.
     

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