Anchor Babies: The downfall of America

There's nothing to refute. I know exactly what the OP wants, because I am familiar with the OP's posting history.

 

so you are trolling instead of discussing the OP. "Based on your interpretation of the OP's posting history", you claim to know what he wants/is, and because you know all of his views based on his posting history, to you he is nothing more than a White Nationalist. Got it!

Again, the links he has provided back up most of his OP, what can't you refute about them? Or is it that because you don't see things that way that you simply choose to label the OP instead? You claim the US was built as a White Supremacist nation.

 

Not trolling at all. And you said he was a white nationalist, not me.

 

Now its word games? You claiming to know what the OP is based on his posting comments, you claiming the US to be a White Supremacist built Nation. We all see what you are implying. Now, simply try to refute the OP or quit trolling.

 

So you criticize me for making assumptions, yet you yourself are also making assumptions.

There's trolling going on alright, but it isn't by me.

 

I've quoted your exact words, what assumption have I made? I've stated you are "implying", nothing more. I'm not criticizing you at all, simply trying to get you to discuss the OP and not the individual him/her-self. If you can't do what the rules of this forum mandate, why post, if not to simply troll?

 

A racist is someone with a very flimsy definition and outlook on life. The Anchor baby problem costs us trillions(thanks Brew .) Do tell, how are racists worse?

They're universally rejected! Lord knows, I'd join a Nationalist Party by now if any one of them would focus moreso on the continent and its culture than the color of a person's skin.

I acknowledge the strength of immigration(mostly, it was European immigration that built modern America.). It's because I acknowledge its strength, that to keep it we must be selective in the future. Not every immigrant is worth it, not everyone and their mama loves America.

What Liberals fundamentally believe in as it relates to immigration, goes contradictory to how most people engage with their households.

 

Granny says dey's illegal Hispexicans...

Duncan on Mexican Women Who Cross U.S. Border to Give Birth: ‘These Are Our Kids’
April 17, 2014 – Education Secretary Arne Duncan visited an elementary school in Columbus, N.M. last year where 75 percent of the students live in Mexico but are being educated in the United States because their mothers crossed the border to seek medical help, and their birth here makes them U.S. citizens.

 

They're seeking a better life, don't you know?. US laws be damned. As long as they're breaking laws for a good reason(in their own mind) its all OK. Th rest of us will pay and of course, Liberals love it because it means millions of new voters all for them, simply by selling out their morals and common sense. Who needs those anyhow? ANYTHING for votes and power. Considering the fairly pathetic accomplishments of those south of our border, it truly is astounding how some can think, "Gee, we need MORE of them to enhance OUR country...since they're doing so much better" /boggle at the utter stupidity of the Liberal thought process.

In what logical, rational world does importing people from lesser nations, STRENGTHEN ours? It makes us more diverse? Considering more diversity doesn't actually improve conditions, why would one support that? Stupidity?

 

Over a quarter-million anchor babies born in the U.S. in 2014...

Pew: 275,000 Babies Born in U.S. From Illegal Alien Mothers in 2014
October 31, 2016 – A report by the Pew Research Center based on data from the federal government estimated that the number of babies born in the United States to illegal alien mothers in 2014 was 275,000 – a decrease from the estimated 330,000 born in 2009.

 

nice thread necromancy

Yes, jus soli was always a stupid idea. Just think about it: a citizen is someone part of your nation. What is it that binds your nation together? Is it not kinship, is it not adherence to the law, a shared identity? So why the hell would you base citizenship on wheter one was born on the physical land, as if that was all the members of your nation had in common? that's just retarded, quite frankly, and not a good basis for a nation. it invites to abuse, as we can clearly see. it leads to bad results because it is an inherently stupid idea.

 

You are a neoliberal. You want to give illegals amnesty for breaking your laws do you?

Take a look at the Australian border policy. We put illegals in offshore detention - and we are about to give illegal that comes to Australia by boat a lifetime ban from Australia. We want illegals to know that they have no hope of ever coming to Australia illegally. And you want to give illegals amnesty do you? Jesus Christ. And you call yourself an American nationalist? What a joke. You are an American neoliberal - that is very very obvious. Why do you pretend to be a nationalist on the internet?

edit - Your arent Marco Rubio by any chance are you?

 

But to quote Antonio Villaraogosa... "We clean your toilets!"

 

the US is the only country on earth where the rewards for illegals are so great and the border control is so weak.

 

How about this idea,Solution for Problem of "14th Amendment" Birthright or Anchor Babies?

 

I don't think we can have children born in this country and then declare them stateless.

 

I agree. See my full linked post. The babies are "stated" and the parents have the option of leaving them behind for adoption or taking them back home with them.

 

Simple solution. Very. Parents must leave the country. They can either leave the child who was born here with legal relatives or take the kid back with them. When the child turns of either legal age or can support itself, it can return to claim it's rightful citizenship. It is just that simple. Case closed.

 

In the US we don't sever parental rights.

 

Why shouldn't we if it the parents of the babies that places the babies in a very dangerous situation. To repeat, the parents have no right to be here.

 

Why can't you kick the parents out?

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So inalienable rights do not exist and instead everyone has priveleges granted by the government not derived from their birth but rather contingent on who their parents are?

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Yes we do. It happens all the time when criminal parents are sent to prison.

 

How would you address the citizenship of an abandoned baby with no parents around to claim the child?

 

Inalienable 'rights' are not the privileges derived from citizenship. But rather 'life, freedom and the pursuit of happiness' should belong to every individual. But the 'rights' inherent in our country, education, health care, etc can only go to citizens of this country. When they go to the illegal immigrant, to the tune of negative dollars, the ACA had to be formed in large part because of them(treatments without payment), remember that argument?

Just because they're born here, did not make them citizens. If one spent the majority of her time in Mexico(or name another Latin American country here), then we leave no doubt that it's a Latin American Citizen. America cannot be the welfare nation of the world. My mom was born and raised here, and in turn I was born and raised here. And the same is true for all legal immigrants who became citizens or permanent residents.

We must defend the financial health and well-being of the United States. We only have this country, otherwise we will be much like the Latin American migrant, and we will face the experiences of trying to fit into some other country. The Liberals who whined about going to Canada, realized just how difficult it is in reality. Defending one's nation, is one's calling card. And it's what you do when you teach our kids, when you police our streets and when you produce as a worker or an entrepreneur. You've done service to your country.

To suggest that "everyone and anyone is welcome" is to spit on the sacrifices made for the United States.

 

Meh, Anchor babies are all about whether or not you think Immigrants are bad.

 

So the rights found in say The Bill of Rights are not inalienable and are instead government-granted?