Idiot-elect does it again...

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by snakestretcher, Jan 5, 2017.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Messages:
    43,996
    Likes Received:
    1,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So who is Trump siding with these days, Assange and the Russians, or his own intelligence agencies? He will be shown evidence of Russia's involvement in getting him elected at an intelligence briefing next week, and this disdain for his spooks is seriously pissing off those men and women of the intelligence community and who are serving your country, not Russia or Russian interests. Who is he going to listen to in an emergency security situation; Assange or the CIA he so despises?
    The orange idiot needs a serious talking-to. Let's hope he gets one next week. The popcorn is being passed as we eagerly await his next predictable balls-up.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-russia-cyber-clapper-idUSKBN14P0G5
     
  2. BoDiddly

    BoDiddly Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2015
    Messages:
    824
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Uh huh.

    Trumps being totally unreasonable asking for evidence first. Gotcha.
     
  3. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2016
    Messages:
    16,798
    Likes Received:
    17,571
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Just a short time ago I remember the lefties congratulating the obama administration for the "Russian reset"

    My how short some memories can be.
     
  4. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Messages:
    43,996
    Likes Received:
    1,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    He already took Assange's word that Russia wasn't interfering in the election and against all evidence to the contrary, which he will be no doubt shown, next week.. Did Assange provide him with any 'evidence'?
     
  5. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,800
    Likes Received:
    27,327
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Do you see just how brainwashed you have become? All baseless accusations, and there you are repeating the lie like it's truth, and even amplifying it by saying "Russia's involvement in getting him elected", as though the Russians not only hacked the DNC, which is unproven and not even claimed with certainty by the intel agencies themselves, but actually got Trump elected by doing so, which not even our joke of a president is claiming.
     
  6. Johnny Brady

    Johnny Brady New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3,377
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    How on earth could the russkis have influenced the election?
    Did they drop paratroops all over America to round up the voters and march them to the polling stations at gunpoint to vote for Don or what?
    How about it Colonel Ostrovsky?

    "Although my personal nature is a violent one, I am under strict instructions to avoid bloodshed if possible"
    [​IMG]
     
  7. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Messages:
    43,996
    Likes Received:
    1,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ok, I missed the word 'alleged'. Is that better now? We'll see next week, after his intel briefing.
     
  8. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Messages:
    28,887
    Likes Received:
    4,821
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Funny that in a 2 Party System, where one has been shown to be corrupt and meddling in the process.....all the talk is "The Russians" and not that party and it's corruption.

    People are easily sidetracked it seems.
     
  9. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Messages:
    43,996
    Likes Received:
    1,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    In the same way that the CIA have been influencing elections in foreign countries for decades? This has the potential to be as big as Watergate.
     
  10. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,800
    Likes Received:
    27,327
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You expect Assange to prove a negative? :laughing:

    You can see how easy it is to manipulate the stupid masses and manufacture truth. The CIA merely needs to make an assertion without evidence with a limited scope, and people like you eat it up and repeat it with added embellishment. All in accordance with your own biases and the kinds of personal flaws in thinking that every human being exhibits.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Indeed... They are quite adept at deflecting attention and blame.
     
  11. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What evidence? The FBI has never asked for permission to do a forensic analysis of the DNC servers. No one has looked at them yet.
     
  12. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Messages:
    43,996
    Likes Received:
    1,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I do. If Assange says they didn't then he must have some substantiating information to that effect, no? Anyone can say, 'no, we didn't', until the evidence either agrees or shows otherwise. If the CIA shows evidence that Russia was involved in assisting in getting Trump elected, who will you believe; Russia, your decades-long enemy, or your intelligence community-the same people who found Osama bin Laden?
     
  13. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,800
    Likes Received:
    27,327
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    He's had intelligence briefings and hasn't been impressed with their conclusions based on the data already.

    I wonder whether you'll accept his position after this coming briefing if he doesn't agree with you?
     
  14. Johnny Brady

    Johnny Brady New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3,377
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    In British elections the voters simply put a tick against the name of the candidate they want, perhaps it's different in America, I don't know.
    I'm still trying to understand how the russkis allegedly forced US voters to put a tick against Don's name against their will?
     
  15. BoDiddly

    BoDiddly Member

    Joined:
    Jan 13, 2015
    Messages:
    824
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Aha! The logic on you guys! How is it you guys switched places with Alex Jones screaming conspiracy theories??

    "Russia hacked the election! We have the documents!" Unbelievable. There is no evidence. Obama is twisting his panties in a knot as we are done with him and his failed presidency. Get on board you lemming.
     
  16. snakestretcher

    snakestretcher Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2010
    Messages:
    43,996
    Likes Received:
    1,706
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Let me ask you a question; what do you trust more, a complete novice's personal opinion, or the hard evidence of a long-established intelligence community with decades of experience and knowledge gained? Let Trump stick to what he understands-cellphone apps.
     
  17. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,800
    Likes Received:
    27,327
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Now you want to appeal to authority. I don't trust clandestine organizations such as the CIA. Would you trust the Russian FSB if they came out with such unsubstantiated claims?
     
  18. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    Trump is pissing off a lot of people, and the country is wishing him well ...That's what they voted him in for. He's going to fix the teachers union so the parents can have a greater voice in their children's future ...and that's a large union. He's pissing off the Intelligence agents by ridding it of the assassins and making it a real Intelligence gathering agency... and the list goes on and on but the greatest challenge is that he's pissing off George Soros and his hopes of a one world government... under him and a few others of course.

    Give it up George, the American people have spoken.:oldman:
     
  19. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    What hard evidence? Under this administration they have never given evidence. Don't you know, we're supposed to trust the liar in chief.
     
  20. Johnny Brady

    Johnny Brady New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2016
    Messages:
    3,377
    Likes Received:
    45
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Don already knows it all and doesn't feel the need to consult the intell agencies.
    Same with me in computer strategy games, sometimes somebody will climb aboard my tank and start giving me a running commentary on what tactics we should be using, so I hit the "Eject crew member" key to get rid of them and drive off to do things my way without distractions..:)
     
  21. gc17

    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    5,187
    Likes Received:
    2,015
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Or the Chinese, Oh wait they hold a couple trillion of our debt so they are off limits.
     
  22. gc17

    gc17 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2016
    Messages:
    5,187
    Likes Received:
    2,015
    Trophy Points:
    113
     
  23. One Mind

    One Mind Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 26, 2014
    Messages:
    20,296
    Likes Received:
    7,744
    Trophy Points:
    113
    By assisting you can only mean by providing the evidence of what the DNC and Hillary are in reality? Which proved to many what these people were?

    I trust assange in telling us his source was not a state actor, Russia or anyone else. Given neither Hillary's server nor the DNC were highly secure, any competent hacker could have got in and it would not require a sophisticated state actor. So Russia could have got in, but another non state actor could have got in and turned the info over to assange. Or this could have been an internal leak.

    I would take the word of assange over Clapper or the CIA any day of the week. If trump understands what these agencies are, and knows their history, he would be very careful in trusting them on an issue such as this. Especially given how the initial info came out.
     
  24. Jeannette

    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 12, 2012
    Messages:
    37,994
    Likes Received:
    7,948
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Female
    There is a difference between them and Alex Jones. Alex Jones turns out to be right ...no matter how far fetched what he says seems at the time. I found the same with Voltairenet. His information seems to be far fetched, but later on it turns out to be accurate. Anyway they are informative sites, and people can find out a great deal that they would not be able to find out otherwise... even from the internet sites like Moon of Alabama, Globle Research, Briebart, etc. So it really doesn't really matter where their leanings are or not.

    Alex from what I have noticed is a devout Christian and sees everything through that prism. He has a hard time conveying his own experiences to others, so he becomes over emotional and difficult to comprehend. ..or at least he does to me. As for Thierry Meyssan of Voltairenet, from what I gather he is a communist and falls on the other end of the spectrum. This though doesn't make what he writes as being untrue.
     
  25. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You mean like these intelligence agencies?

    The ones who were basically writing fiction when it comes to the ME?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-intelligence-military-idUSKBN13C0G8?il=0
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page