Trinity’s transgender boy wins girls state wrestling crown

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  1. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Won't be long before all performance enhancing drugs and hormone treatments are allowed in every sport.

    Of course gender identity is just progressive hogwash. One's own DNA is what one gender actually is.
     
  2. guavaball

    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    I read just fine. It doesn't change the reality that she could have waited to when she wasn't competing athletically using a performance enhancing drug when it is not a requirement for proclaiming your mental incapacity to deal with your sex. That's what you refuse to acknowledge.

    LOL And as usual you would be wrong again. I told you before, assumption is the mother of all F ups. I've already proven that wrong once. Do you really want to pretend I'm anywhere close to 50? :)

    And there's the anti science rhetoric once again. Only a liberal (yes I know you pretend you aren't one) would proclaim the sex of a child's birth certificate is invalid.

    Oh I know you and your friends will go judge shopping. You always do when you lose to the public vote.

    I've already proven that to be a laughable lie. Science that you claim supports you is nothing but theory. Your own links admit that. The very fact you continue this fantasy pretending if you repeat it long enough the evidence will magically change is right on par with your belief that a declaration of one's sex means that person changes biologically.
     
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    So tell us, how is she going to finish transitioning? Is there a dick fairy that's going to come along and leave a little bundle in her shorts?
     
  4. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't be the only reader of this thread who is once again astounded that this sort of thing is defended by leftist? I don't know why I'm shocked, I should be used to it by now. It's truly bizarre that the left are choosing transgender over women and then referring to everyone else as bigots. Why are the left being so bigoted to women (who are not doping to become men). You should be standing up for the rights of the girls on this team who are playing fair. Why aren't you? If anyone is bigots in this case, it's those defending this case.
     
  5. guavaball

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    You aren't. Its the mental gymnastics the liberals use that are mind boggling.

    But its nothing new. When the left can't explain a condition they wish to champion they first claim its genetic or biologically sound. When that fails they try to equate it to a proven genetic condition. When that fails they label you as homophobic or bigoted for not accepting their beliefs as facts.
     
  6. Greataxe

    Greataxe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Left, with their obsession with Muslims and LGBTism, are beyond help. Their current preference is:

    1)Muslims: it's okay for Muslims to beat women, rape children shoot up gay clubs and stone gays to death.
    2) LGBT's: it's okay for transgenders, or whatever they believe they are to invade any sport or any bathroom.
    3) Women
    4)Children
     
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    Typical liberal. Cannot argue a point intelligently, so resorts to the usual name calling for anyone that dares disagree.
     
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    She's transitioning from female to male. She didn't want to compete with female athletes. She was forced to.

    Simple solution, let her compete with male athletes.

    But instead people are attacking a kid. Pretty sad really.

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    Never said that. But it's pretty sad that they forced him to compete against girls and then attack him when he wins.
     
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    He wants to be called he, so I'm gonna call him he. Pretty simple really.

    He is transitioning to male. He wants to compete as a male. They forced him to compete against girls, so rather than sulk and give up that dream of competeing he went and showed them how idiotic they were being by winning in a division he doesn't belong in.

    Why don't you just admit that this has nothing to do with his use of testosterone and admit you just don't like the idea of a trans athlete winning after attempts to stop him failed.
     
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    In what detour from reality is this okay? Oh, right, Liberalism.
     
  11. guavaball

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    So if some guy under a bridge wanted to be known as Sheena Queen of the Jungle would you indulge his fantasy too?

    A biological impossibility. Embrace science not belief.

    I could care less what she believes she is. She is taking a controlled substance giving her an unfair advantage over normal girls. Its that simple.

    I don't care what she calls herself but when she takes a banned substance that gives her an unfair advantage it makes zero sense on any platform of basic reality that you would support that.

    She is female. She will never, ever be a male. Chromosomes don't change no matter how many lamps you rub.
     
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    It is not a simple solution. The reason why we separate genders in athletic competition is because of the natural imbalance of athletic ability between boys and girls. There are legal liability issues at stake. Also, if you make the rules that athletes can compete in whatever gender they want, you set the stage for athletes being allowed to go the other way.

    As idiotic as it sounds, if a girl wants to compete with boys and you let her compete with boys and then she gets hurt competing with boys, she can sue the school that let her compete with boys for negligence. And she would win 10 times out of 10.

    As stated before, there are a wide variety of medical conditions - and their treatments - which disqualify individuals from athletic competition. There is no logical reason why this person should get special privileges.
     
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    If there's anything sad about it, it's the girls who aren't on drugs that lose to this girl who is on drugs. She's forced to compete? Who's forcing her to compete? She's there because she wants to wrestle with girls. If all those who compete against her forfeited their matches, she'd have no one to wrestle with and she'd either quit or join an online dating service.
     
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    She isnt competing against men and is therefore subject to the womans doping rules. I was a college level athlete. The list of baned substances was very long and you knew that medically prescribed or not you could be busted.

    Ritalin for example is common treatment for post concussion syndrome. But it is also a banned substance. Take too much of it for legitimate treatment and you get busted.

    You cant explain to me why this condition is exempt from the same rules as other conditions wxcept for that it is your political pet peve.
     
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    Look up sex reassignment surgery, I know y'all think it's cute to look like ignorant fools but it isn't.
    It's why no one takes you seriously. It's why you keep losing every non-partisan court battle.
     
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    That is not a reason. What makes her any different than someone with post concussion syndrome who cant take parge doses of Ritalin? Both are medical conditions both are subject to doping controls. As an athlete you are not able to get the same medical treatments as everyone else. If you chose to break the doping protocols even with an approved medical procedure you are disqualified.

    You still cant explain why gender dismorphia gets some special treatment that other medical conditions dont get.
     
  17. Louisiana75

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    A girls team gets beaten by another girl who was beefed up on steroids and you think the complaints have nothing to do with that? Why aren't you defending these girls?
     
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    I am not defending the "doping", I'm arguing he should have been allowed to compete with the males where his testosterone levels would not have disqualified him.
     
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    He should have been allowed to compete with the group that he is transitioning towards.

    I would argue reading comprehension is the .... yeh, that's why I said statistically, if you are under 55 - you are even more of a minority.

    In this case it is, just because I am not a social con does not place me in the opposite camp - but call me what you will. It doesn't phase me in the slightest

    It's called a legally justifiable argument. Even with judge shopping y'all still can't seem to come up with one. Maybe y'all will get Cruz, he doesn't seem to need much legal theory to come up with a judgment.

    All you have is lies, show me where I said biological sex can be changed. Science supports the medical treatment of GID. Reading comprehension - try it some time
     
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    The school system is at fault
     
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    Actually you have defending doping by using it as a medical excuse. If she opted to take testosterone, she then forfeited her right to compete.
     
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    Wait... They have female wresting????
     
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    Not a he. End your war on biology and science. The rules are very clear. You can stamp your feet and scream they are unfair but it wont change the reality they exist.

    No one is stopping her from taking drugs that will harm her body. She has no right to take a banned drug no one else can take and compete.

    This coming from the person who claimed being transsexual requires medical treatment in the definition. You'll forgive me if your judgement isn't something to be trusted.

    In this case it is, just because I am not a social con does not place me in the opposite camp - but call me what you will. It doesn't phase me in the slightest

    No its called fantasy and ignoring the biological reality of human beings.

    We don't hold a candle to the judge shopping you guys employ and I've given several concrete examples of it. You provided none. Zero. Nada.

    Your response to that statement was your junk science articles that admit themselves they cannot prove their theories.

    Try reading your own articles. They all admit they have nothing but theory not concrete fact.

    Go ahead, I challenge you in any article you have posted where any of your so called scientists claimed their theories have been proven.

    No more BS. No more running. Cite them or admit you have zero scientific proven data to support your fantasy that biology can be changed with wishful thinking.
     
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    Well said. Just remember this is the same person who tried to fabricate a new defintion of transexual to claim it requires medical treatment and has never ever admitted it.
     
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    If the school forces a boy to compete with girls they can expect him to have more testosterone than the girls.
    Good points were made on the doping that I didn't consider, I agree with those points, when someone is made aware of new views are they not allowed to change their opinion? I know it's rare for people to do that here but when valid points are made I listen.
     

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