Trinity’s transgender boy wins girls state wrestling crown

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  1. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All you have left is lies I see. You realize people can use the quote function to see I have never said any of the things you are saying. When you have to resort to blatantly lying you have no other point to be made. Quote me on any of the things you are saying I have said. Especially the changing biology from wishful thinking - or foff

    And btw, the clerk of SCOTUS agrees, a person transitioning is referred to by the appropriate sex.
     
  2. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No one forced her to compete. And she's not a boy.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The school failed on two counts, they forced him to compete with the girls and they allowed him to compete while knowing he was undergoing gene replacement therapy.
     
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    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If it were a him, he would have been able to compete on the boys team and wouldn't need the testosterone.

    However, once she chose to take the testosterone, she forfeited her right to compete. The fact that she did it anyway and beat all the girls is why you should be most offended. The girls on the wrestling team were the one who were treated unfairly. If only you libs would stand up for them the way you stand up for transgenders, maybe you wouldn't have lost the election.
     
  5. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    My candidate won the election but good try.
    He might be female biologically, but physically and hormonally (at least in part) he is male.

    He was already on the testosterone, stopping would be dangerous.

    Why does it give you satisfaction to call someone a she if they are undergoing expensive and dangerous procedures to match the gender they identify with. What do you get out of it? You are actively harming someone and benefiting how?
     
  6. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If I take testosterone, I'm still a female. If you take estrogen, you're still a male.

    If stopping the testosterone would've been dangerous and she chose to continue, then she should've made the choice to skip the wrestling team this year. LIfe is full of choices and some we don't like.

    You say I'm harming her by calling her a her, but you don't seem to have issue with the fact that her roided self beat the crap out of a bunch of other girls.
     
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    Gene replacement is not just talking testosterone, and transitioning is not just gene replacement.

    "Roided" and "beat the crap out of other girls" show how completely biased you are on this subject and I frankly don't care to continue with any of you on it. You are uninterested in discussion and are here to preach your opinions and biases.

    Enjoy conversing with guvnut.
     
  8. Louisiana75

    Louisiana75 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So you don't want to discuss the reality of what happened? You'd rather talk about all the feelz of this single transgender rather than what happened to a whole team of girls who were competing fairly. Don't let me confuse you with facts.
     
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    I completely agree on this, they should not have allowed this person to compete at all due to violation of standard rules regarding PEDs applied to everyone across the board. Someone who wants to do something so drastic as a sex change transformation, competing in athletics should be far down the list of priorities. Yeesh, thinking about the whole thing is creepy to begin with.
     
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    Easy, ignore a legal waiver stating the school is not liable for any injury received. It's common practice in many sports.

    Also those medical conditions are 9/10 a health risk. Which prevents kids from competing because of greater risk to their safety. Transitioning does not place him at any higher risk
     
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    says the one who questions the thinking ability of those who disagrees with him - now that's real prejudice
     
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    He was forced to compete in the girls wrestling competition. She wanted compete on the boys wrestling team.

    What's sad is that adults can't act like adults and stop attacking a child.
     
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    If it doesn't, that's the end of women's sport. Women cannot compete with women on drugs, just as men cannot compete with men on drugs. Your lap time doesn't really care if you're taking them because you have gender dysphoria.

    We need to sort out a solution to this or in a few decades female sport will be entirely buff trans men. Personally I favor sticking everyone in the same league (male and female) and having a separate drug league. If you get caught using in the regular league, you're relegated for life to the drug league.

    1. I would be keen to see what the human body can actually do at the limits of what is possible.

    2. Drug use is not cheating if it's above board and everyone knows the rules.

    3. Gender segregation is wrong. This is 2017 (lol), we shouldn't have black water fountains anymore. Women can compete in sport and if they lose so be it.
     
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    Because 1) This is not a regulated sporting division, There are no doping rules or tests for high school wrestling teams.

    2) Athletes can indeed take testosterone and other steroids if it's medically necessary. Lance Armstrong took steroids while battling cancer and continued to compete.

    3) He wanted to compete as a male in a boys wrestling team and was not allowed. So he competed in the girls division as he was forced to. And look at that he won, so now people can complain about it because he won. Well simple fix let him compete against people who he should actually be wrestling.
     
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    A girls team got beaten by a boy, because the people organizing the team and school boards made a transgendered male compete against female wrestlers.

    Why aren't you defending these girls who were forced to wrestle a boy?

    The problems isn't the boy, the problems is the idiots who can't stop attacking a child.
     
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    I've been defending these girls in every reply in this thread.
     
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    You are kidding right? How did that work out for Armstrong? He was stripped of 7 titles and banned from ever competing again. Stop trying to project some warped sense of faux tragedy.
     
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    It has everything to do with it. Both are a state of mind. The fact you are running from it is so telling.

    Actually that's exactly what it is.

    Why by denying science based on your belief you are a sex you are not?

    Her

    Its your choice to reject science for your belief she is something she is not. Its my choice to embrace science over your phony belief.

    That's the type of thinking that jailed Galileo. Well done. You're taking us back a few thousand years in thinking.

    That are banned.

    LOL Do you even know what Armstrong took when he had cancer? Hint: It wasn't testosterone.

    She's not a boy. Why should we accommodate her belief she is something she is not? Any should everyone else who is normal must accommodate a delusional state by a single person?

    No I could care less what she does on her own time but when she takes a banned substance giving her an unfair advantage in sports its time to shut down this delusion.
     
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    There were no boys involved in this story....
     
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    We all know what happened. Female is undergoing gender reassignment procedures to align with the gender she identifies with. School refuses to allow him to compete where the testosterone use would not be an issue - because bigots - and now people are upset because said usage gave him an unfair advantage. You don't get it both ways.

    Once the treatment begins and to eliminate environmental abuse the medical community (and now the legal community) advises the correct gender be used when identifying them - which you refuse to do. You are uninterested in "facts" or the crux of the story and are focusing on one specific area because it aligns with your beliefs. There is nothing further for us to discuss.
     
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    How dare you call others bigots when YOU are the one being bigoted towards women. STOP acting like she had no choice. She didn't have to compete while on treatment. If the treatment was more important, then that was the choice she needed to make. You act as if the best solution was for her to compete, UNFAIRLY, against the girls rather than not compete at all. YOU are the BIGOT. We need to stop acting as if the other 99% of the population must suffer unfair treatment just to make a single transgender get their way.
     
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    No one forced anyone to compete. If she didn't want to compete against girls she shouldn't have joined the team. She wanted to wrestle girls, any real boy would.
     
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    How am I being bigoted towards women? I wanted the boy to compete on the men's team. Try again
     
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    You would have to review the rules of that game to make that determination. If those rules allowed a clearly stated dosage to be injected, and those rules applied to all competitors, I might agree with you.



     

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