US to suspend fast processing of H-1B visas for high-skilled workers

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  1. liberalminority

    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    Higher skilled immigrants allow companies not to train and educate Americans for higher paid work, effectively making them compete with illegal immigrants for minimum wage work.

    If we want Americans to be competitive in the free market, we should have companies pay for the training in higher skilled work of silicon valley.

    This is not a big move by the President, it is only a 6 month delay, but it is a step in the right direction.

    http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/3/14...mp-h-1b-visa-processing-wait-times?yptr=yahoo
     
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    America FIRST.

    We built this nation to be the greatest on the planet.

    It should be our people that get to take advantage of that.

    Back of the line immigrants, Americans go first.
     
  3. The Wyrd of Gawd

    The Wyrd of Gawd Well-Known Member

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    The H1-b visa should be terminated.
     
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    Expedited H1Bs are an accomodation of an accomodation. Businesses sought and obtained an arrangement with immigration authorities to allow specific and constantly reviewed visas is adequate numbers to foreign immigrants who have required skills businesses couldn't readily find among citizens. Then they sought and obtained accelerated procedures to expedite the processing of visas for these rately skilled immigrants.

    The first issue is whether it is true there are no citizens with the required skills. I expect one could find adequately skilled citizens, just not enough of them, so businesses are competing for these specially skilled workers and want to save money rather than poach each other's workers with more generous wages. So then the issue ought to be how much money should the government try to save businesses which struggle finding skilled workers. On the expedited processing there is a concern since the immigration authorities need to somehow verify an absence of suitably skilled citizens, government bureaucrats aren't fast so expedited processing means they can't really check to see whether citizens could be hired.

    It also should be noted these H1Bs aren't necessarily that highly skilled, I used to process hundreds of such visas every year for nurses in Mexico, they weren't all of them surgical nurses or trained in some unusual procedures, just ordinary nurses of the type one finds graduating from an average community college. I'm sure somr H1Bs are for astrophysicists with PhDs who specialize in plasma, these could be expedited, likely there are just a couple dozen of them in the whole world, but I wouldn't make an accomodation for simple nurses just so some hospital chain or homecare service can hire more cheaply.
     
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    But... but... how are we going to push down wages and put American citizens into their place in the slums if we're going to attack the H1Bs???

    How are we going to share the wealth with the world???
     
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    News reported a company in California just fired their 71 American IT workers after having them train their H-1B replacements.

    Unions are on board with Trump on this one.
     
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    Osiris Faction Well-Known Member

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    I can agree with this.

    On the condition that we actually, idk, move to make out educational systems the greatest in the world again. Rather than sub-par and lacking badly in science, math, and literacy.
     
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    guavaball Well-Known Member

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    FINALLY. This was my main reason voting for Trump.

    If you have ever had to watch your coworkers train a bunch of college kids who can't even speak English or they will lose their severance package you could never vote for anyone who would even give a wishy washy answer to cracking down on this exploitation.
     
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    This is dead on. The requirement to find Americans who could do the job at least in IT was the biggest violation. These are college kids mainly from India or South America who have next to no experience much less a grasp of English so both the highly skilled and not being able to find competent Americans is the biggest joke of the H1B exploitation by big business.

    Like you I have intimate knowledge having not only worked for 2 fortune 100 companies doing this but being in charge of building the infrastructure in India for my section of the company and personally interviewed over 100 I can promise you 98% of the hires knew NOTHING.

    When I was in Mumbai drinking with some Indian execs after getting a few in them they told me companies like HCL pay the local colleges to graduate as many people as possible then give their names to the company so they can peddle them to American companies. And once they got hired they did their best to get their family members hired. I got very good at learning surnames and demanding video conference calls for hires because many times the person who "found" this employee would tell them what to say on the phone during the interview. Or once hired they would literally walk across the street at lunch and see if another company would give them more money. If they got it we never saw them again. This is exploitation by big business ruining American families and violating the very process and rules set up for these visas.

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    Not just unions brother.
     

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