Law proposes men be taxed for masturbation - highlights abortion issues

Good God. So by asking you to actually provide evidence for a sexist generalization, and by pointing the generalization is sexist in the first place, I'm implying you are "the only" sexist person I know, or that sexism is nonexistent?

 

Well, I am against tax. It was just a joke anyways.

 

The unborn sperm is a separate entity with its own DNA - what is your point ?

 

56 million women voted for Dumpster?

 

I have, and your one-sided poutrage has been duly noted.

 

Yaaawwwnnn.

 

well then.

We will have to hide away in a dark shameful corner of the house and go about our business.

Next. No need to expand any further on the details.

 

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Yes, let's put women into premature menopause, with all it's risks and side effects. You illustrate what Fox said about so few men understanding what women go through.

And, let's make it so men cannot have sex by cutting off their testicles - another brainiac idea - not.

 

First of all you need to learn to recognize sarcasm. Second you need to look at peoples profiles before you go off the rails...I have 5 children, and I was present for all 5 births. For those of you that are lacking in math skills, that is 45 months worth of pregnancy with my wife of 28 years. That's more than 3.5 years worth of pregnancy, all the hormonal changes, the cravings, late night runs to 7-11 or Walmart...
Don't take everything so seriously...

 

OOOhh, late night runs to the store! How awful... YOU had hormonal changes? Cravings?
Nope, it was all on her.
And YOU did NOT have nor take a risk of having:

Normal, frequent or expectable temporary side effects of pregnancy:

• exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
• altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
• nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
• heartburn and indigestion
• constipation
• weight gain
• dizziness and light-headedness
• bloating, swelling, fluid retention
• hemmorhoids
• abdominal cramps
• yeast infections
• congested, bloody nose
• acne and mild skin disorders
• skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
• mild to severe backache and strain
• increased headaches
• difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
• increased urination and incontinence
• bleeding gums
• pica
• breast pain and discharge
• swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint paininfection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
  (pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
• extreme pain on delivery
• hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
• continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section -- major surgery -- is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)

Normal, expectable, or frequent PERMANENT side effects of pregnancy:

• stretch marks (worse in younger women)
• loose skin
• permanent weight gain or redistribution
• abdominal and vaginal muscle weakness
• pelvic floor disorder (occurring in as many as 35% of middle-aged former child-bearers and 50% of elderly former child-bearers, associated with urinary and rectal incontinence, discomfort and reduced quality of life -- aka prolapsed utuerus, the malady sometimes badly fixed by the transvaginal mesh)
• changes to breasts
• increased foot size
• varicose veins
• scarring from episiotomy or c-section
• other permanent aesthetic changes to the body (all of these are downplayed by women, because the culture values youth and beauty)
• increased proclivity for hemmorhoids
• loss of dental and bone calcium (cavities and osteoporosis)
• higher lifetime risk of developing Altzheimer's
• newer research indicates microchimeric cells, other bi-directional exchanges of DNA, chromosomes, and other bodily material between fetus and mother (including with "unrelated" gestational surrogates)

Occasional complications and side effects:

• complications of episiotomy
• spousal/partner abuse
• hyperemesis gravidarum
• temporary and permanent injury to back
• severe scarring requiring later surgery
  (especially after additional pregnancies)
• dropped (prolapsed) uterus (especially after additional pregnancies, and other pelvic floor weaknesses -- 11% of women, including cystocele, rectocele, and enterocele)
• pre-eclampsia (edema and hypertension, the most common complication of pregnancy, associated with eclampsia, and affecting 7 - 10% of pregnancies)
• eclampsia (convulsions, coma during pregnancy or labor, high risk of death)
• gestational diabetes
• placenta previa
• anemia (which can be life-threatening)
• thrombocytopenic purpura
• severe cramping
• embolism (blood clots)
• medical disability requiring full bed rest (frequently ordered during part of many pregnancies varying from days to months for health of either mother or baby)
• diastasis recti, also torn abdominal muscles
• mitral valve stenosis (most common cardiac complication)
• serious infection and disease (e.g. increased risk of tuberculosis)
• hormonal imbalance
• ectopic pregnancy (risk of death)
• broken bones (ribcage, "tail bone")
• hemorrhage and
• numerous other complications of delivery
• refractory gastroesophageal reflux disease
• aggravation of pre-pregnancy diseases and conditions (e.g. epilepsy is present in .5% of pregnant women, and the pregnancy alters drug metabolism and treatment prospects all the while it increases the number and frequency of seizures)
• severe post-partum depression and psychosis
• research now indicates a possible link between ovarian cancer and female fertility treatments, including "egg harvesting" from infertile women and donors
• research also now indicates correlations between lower breast cancer survival rates and proximity in time to onset of cancer of last pregnancy
• research also indicates a correlation between having six or more pregnancies and a risk of coronary and cardiovascular disease

Less common (but serious) complications:

• peripartum cardiomyopathy
• cardiopulmonary arrest
• magnesium toxicity
• severe hypoxemia/acidosis
• massive embolism
• increased intracranial pressure, brainstem infarction
• molar pregnancy, gestational trophoblastic disease
  (like a pregnancy-induced cancer)
• malignant arrhythmia
• circulatory collapse
• placental abruption
• obstetric fistula

More (possible) permanent side effects:

• future infertility
• permanent disability
• death.

 

I don't look at profiles, because, quite frankly, I don't care who you are. I'm here to debate, not joke around.

YOUR body has never been pregnant, nor will it ever be. Why do you think you have the right to dictate to women what they can or can't do with their pregnancies?

 

You seem to believe that the husband in a conservative heterosexual relationship is a dictator that treats his wife like a brood cow. You've obviously never been in a loving relationship where children are a possibility. Yes these children were planned by both of us...It was her desire to have children, it was never forced upon her. And no, my body will never be pregnant, doesn't mean I don't feel with the love of my life and do everything I can to ease her pain.

 

You've obviously never been in a loving heterosexual relationship that can produce children. My wife and I planned out our children, we decided together to have children. And no I did not suffer the pangs, but I suffer because she does, you obviously have no idea what it means to love someone that much. So save your idiotic responses and go out and get a girlfriend.

 

That has NOTHING to do with Zeffy's post : """I don't look at profiles, because, quite frankly, I don't care who you are. I'm here to debate, not joke around.

YOUR body has never been pregnant, nor will it ever be. Why do you think you have the right to dictate to women what they can or can't do with their pregnancies?""





Can you address or deny what she wrote? Why do you have to get so personal and emotional?

She presented facts, you presented emotion...

 

...and you can't seem to present anything but emotion and attempts at personal insults.

How ridiculous to claim that loving someone puts you in their shoes (or their body) , it doesn't.

You may love your wife but minimizing what she went through by comparing it to giving a back rub or a drive to Walmart doesn't show much respect...

 

Where did I say anything of the sort? Post a quotation where I said that, or retract.

Don't ever ASSume things about people you don't know.

You will never, ever know what it's like to be pregnant. That is a FACT. And I never said children were forced on your wife. Good grief.

 

You're the one questioning whether "I think I have the right to dictate to women", of which I never said. I posted a sarcastically laden comment that all of you seem to have taken umbrage with. And you're right, I don't know you, but you turn around and accuse me when you don't know me either.
And in my sarcastic post, I also included the boys. Which is what this whole thread is about, a sarcastic post about reproductive rights that included men.

 

lol, i had no idea people actually shitpost legislation

 

If this thread is going to be held up as a yardstick for gauging the bills effectiveness at making a point then it seems that point has been lost on most. It's a frivolous law that does not advance a woman's right choose and may actually do more harm than good.

 

No, laws against women's rights do more harm than good.


This was NOT a frivolous law, it was an attempt to point out how ridiculous laws against women are...

 

I agree. But, we're not talking about an anti-choice law here. In fact, this isn't even a pro-choice law so it's potential for furthering the rights of women are almost zero to begin with. The only good that could possibly come from it was if the point was well taken. I just don't think it is. And sense it will now be used against it's sponsor in the next election there is a better chance she (who is undoubtedly a champion for women's rights) might be defeated in that election by someone who may not be as sympathetic to the cause.

Laws against women are ridiculous. I don't disagree with that. But this bill is still frivolous because it was never intended to pass and even if it was it would punish someone else for what...to prove a point? Two wrongs don't make right.

 

ALL politicians use whatever they can to pass laws.

The author of this "law" obviously was only trying to make a point, she didn't really mean to pursue it as a real law.

 

So, you don't want abortion to be illegal? Cool, then I have no quarrel with you.