US changes it's stance on Assad

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What's Wrong With These People ?




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Overwhelming Evidence
That John McCain Met With ISIS-Allied Rebels
http://gotnews.com/yes-john-mccain-met-isis-allied-rebels/

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Well something as rudimentary and 'cheap' as barrel bombs sounds to me more like the product of a bunch of jihadists (think IEDs?) who've 'contracted' a helicopter pilot to drop them on to civilians than the act of an organised regime. In fact I'd bet big money that's exactly what these chemical attacks have been, and the west has been too busy demonising Assad to think about that probability.

 

and it is not like we have not used cluster bombs from time to time .... killing innocent folk - women and children and so on. ... collateral damage ya know cause some bad guys might have been there (not the case in the case of the wedding of Afghanistan but hey .. when it is us it is OK)

Then there is the depleted Uranium used in Iraq which is causing hoards of birth defects to this day.

Oh and lest we not forget supporting Saddam while using Chemical weapons against Iran and his own people. Peter Galbraith - senate committee on Foreign Relations - went to Iraq and saw the gassed out towns (whole towns) he rushed back and drafted the "Prevention of Genocide Act". This act would have sanctioned Iraq and quickly passed through the Senate with "bipartisan" support.

Reagan threatened veto and the bill died in the house. When it is our buddy violating international law .. it's ok. Bush Sr. came into power the following year and increased support to Saddam.

 

I sincerely hope the United States of America comes to its senses soon. It seems to have lost its way.

 

What is your problem .. why are you saying things that have been proven to you not to be true. Assad has been dealing with home grown terrorism from Sunni's for a long time. I gave you a link from the Christian post talking about how, during the protest movement, Sunni Salafi Jihadists were running around killing people.

Do you think all these radical Islamist's in Syria were "moderates" and then just woke up one day in 2011 and turned into radicals ?

Get a brain.

Further - Syria and Russia have been bombing radical Islamist's who have been killing innocent civilians as a matter of course.

You are bloody clueless in relation to the Syrian conflict.

 

Very well said. Let's hope he will, and that it will catch on more generally.

 

You brought up Sunni Civilians. So that is who....."they" are. What was Assad doing 3 days up to this response by the US. Here is a hint......he was kicking some Sunni Jihadists ass. Then the Rebels pushed back, (in one neighborhood) and now there is this call out for using Chems.

You do know that Assad has Sunni in his Military and government Right?

Tell us how the Sunni don't use women and children for support?

Assad isn't a good guy. Yet Assad does keep the Sunni from going completely unhinged.

 

Yeah Moderate Jihadis.....there is no such thing. Oh ad of course, the MS Media forgot. Especially those with the NY Times.

I did notice how those in the MS media just don't want to embed with any of those so called Moderates.

 

Fear not- for the Orange Schizophrenic has come to save it.

 

There are attacks on all minorities in Syria. The Assads protected Christians, Jews, Alawites and others from the attacks of the Sunni majority for decades through the use of the brutal dictatorial power of their police state.

What is our approach to Syria?

 

No Assad has been using them.. His opposition has no planes and helicopters to drop them from.

Watch Barbara Walters hour long interview of Bashar in late 2011.. He acts like he's stone and denies acts of brutality saying he didn't do it .. the government did it.

 

10,000 Sunni conscripts defected from Maher Assad's army when they were ordered to kill Syrian civilians in early 2011... Militias were formed in neighborhoods all over Syria and they were joined by ISIS a month or so later. Assad has not been able to recruit any into his military. Bashar is not in charge.. His brother and hardliner uncles are running the show.. and they are simply criminals.

Just this past week Spanish police arrested Assad's uncle for money laundering and confiscated $735 million in property. The Alawites operate outside the law like the Mafia and are famous for drug smuggling and kidnap for ransom.

 

So 10k defected in 2011.....not all Sunni defected. Nor gave up any cushy job they had.

How much has Assad confiscated from the Rebels and Daesh?

 

Syria has lots of checkpoints and the soldiers routinely practice extortion.. The country is a mess.. The Syrian Lira was 47 to the US dollar now its 530 to the dollar.

The Black Market Kings of Damascus are doing well.

 

I read that this uncle was an exiled rival to Bashar. But in any event, can we make an effective deal with Assad clan?

He released a load of them from prison when the FSA defected.
http://www.newsweek.com/how-syrias-assad-helped-forge-isis-255631

 

No.. I don't think we can make a deal with the Assad clan. They want to remain in power and if Bashar capitulates and steps down, they will kill him.

 

The Sunni/Shia issue is very important and often overlooked; Iran is on the Shia side, daesh against them. Assad used to balance the factions, Kurds are Sunni, so are Turks. Insurgents are both. The religious conflict is about Sunni/Shia populations. Iran is moving Shia settlers into abandoned Sunni territory.

 

You can read about Rifaat al Assad here. He lives in France and is a criminal in Spain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifaat_al-Assad

 

The dude asks for links/proof - I give - does not respond - then catch him posting to others contradicting the info in the links given.

 

For sure ... I noticed this as well. The mainstream has been completely devoid of any coverage with reporters on the front line with the "moderates". This is because there is not, and never has been, any "moderate" front line.

The armed insurrection has been extremist Jihadists from the beginning.

Compare the fighters in Iraq (essentially dropping their weapons and running) to the people fighting for Assad - they are fighting for their lives and way of life and fighting hard. If they did not want Assad he would have been gone long ago. The people are fighting for freedom from the savage Jihadists who hate individual rights and freedoms and want to force their extremist strict sharia totalitarian theocracy on the people of Syria.

 

You have got Syria completely wrong.

 

This is a video from Russia Today:


Of course all Russians and anyone who sympathizes or communicates with them are the Devil's spawn.

But that said, this is the most rational discussion of Trump's foreign policy and the liberal/neocon reaction to it that I've seen so far- the whole thing.

 

This article is speculative at best - perhaps Assad was trying to appease factions that opposed him. Did the Author of this article ask Assad ? It is not like Assad is not willing to talk to Western Journalists - he pretty much begs them to talk to him. Almost every journalist that has talked to Assad or gone to Damascus and talked to the people under Assad, end up being against the Jihadist rebels. This does not mean that the people like Assad all that much (lots of people do not like Trump or Clinton), but the stark conclusion is that they hate the rebels far more.

Regardless, that Assad let some radical Islamists out of Jail does not justify major nation states (including the US) arming and supporting these radical Islamist's

 

Is that the best you can muster Margot ? Cover eyes, ears, mouth, nose and any other orifice that might let the bad news in while you stand on a soapbox crying "NO NO NO".

 

The fact that McCain met with people in Syria that are "associated" with anti-Assad forces is not evidence of US support for terrorism.

The fact that Rand Paul, when he wants to promote the idea of the US getting out of Syria, notes that ISIS also opposes Assad does not mean our objectives and those of ISIS are in ANY kind of alignment, nor does it prove any level of collusion.

The fact that ISIS has made serious progress in Syria doesn't imply that we helped them nor does it imply that the Sunnis of Syria are happy with that situation. As we noted in Iraq, the Sunni population is totally ready to repel terrorist groups including ISIS when there is a possibility of a future in that direction. Suggesting that Syria proves they are all terrorists is the most perverted kind of fake news.

When someone says there are no "seculars" in Syria it doesn't imply that they are radicals or "Islamists".

I've read the articles you have cited - back when they were news.


As I have been pointing out, there isn't any way to defeat ISIS without the help of the people. When the people are being bombed and disenfranchised by their government, they do NOT have the power to try to fight both ISIS and their own military dictatorship.

As I have said many times, trying to eliminated ISIS by bombing them is ridiculous. We can set them back by denying them various assets, but they are highly mobile and well integrated in the population.

Yes - there are folks in Saudi Arabia who are hugely wealthy and use that wealth in criminal ways. As a nation, Saudi Arabia also gives us hugely important military base space as well as ground troops opposed to ISIS in Syria. We've been stuck with our Saudi relationship for a long time and in seriously unhealthy ways.

Think about it. What you are suggesting is to thoroughly defeat and disenfranchise the majority of the population of a nation.

That's a crazy objective. Nobody in their right mind thinks that could possibly work.