Transgenderism and Children: Child Abuse?

Gender =/= Sex

For someone who's alleging they've studied anthropology and sociology, you still can't use the correct terminology.

Human sexuality refers to the human attraction, whether than be erotic or emotional.

Sex =/= Sexuality

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>"hurr durr ur misinterpreting my insult"

Good for you, I still don't give a toss

 

The argumentum ad verecundiam is strong

 

Whatever. Go and have your daughter turned into a son. I don't really care as long as I do not have to pay for it.

 

I'm not putting myself in a position of expertise or authority, all I'm saying is that you don't know what you're talking about.

Anyways, there are several "inordinate sexual predilections" that do not arise from sexual abuse or trauma. Take fetishists as an example. You can choose which ones, since I don't know what you consider as "inordinate sexual predilections". There's no point in even categorizing them as such unless your intent is to shame people who fall outside of the norm, which has no place in modern clinical psychology. That said, sexuality and gender identity can't (and shouldn't) be categorized as mental pathologies so there's really no point trying to tie them in with this.

Even if I were to accept that the conditions in your original post arise from child abuse (which I don't), then how is it sensible to treat the people attempting to treat them as if they endorse child abuse? It makes about as much sense as saying that a surgeon treating a gunshot patient is endorsing shooting people.

 

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Now, you say that "modern-day clinical psychology" is not to shame, yet and still this is not at all true. When a person holds morality as standard fare for their lives, clinical psychologists, especially those who work within government, will attempt to equate said person's morality as a psychological anomaly brought on about because of some psychological trauma. At the same token, these same clinical psychologists will equate something as simple a sexual fetish, which are the expression of some type of traumatic experience or occurrence in a person's life, as normal. As for perverse sexual identity and gender confusion not coming about as some psychological trauma is also false. The reason why these expressions of trauma(s) are not categorized as they should be has to do with the same expressions being cash cows for the psychology field and the pharmaceutical industry. See, I recall the "Satanic sexual abuse" scandals that caused extreme harm(s) to families in the early 1980s and the early 1990s.I mention these historical events to drive home the point of the fallacy of these professions. In my opinion, people who ignore history and have no historical context to add support to their knowledge base are bound to believe anything as long as it has some type of "official" stamp of approval. I call people such as this, S-H-E-E-P-L-E, like sheep they are easily lead in the wrong direction and hard to lead into the right direction.

 

We can read about instances of homosexuality as far back as 600 B.C in China, Greece's history with homosexuality is fairly well known (from Sappho of Lesbos to pederasty) and medieval Japanese fiction is filled with tales of crossdressing (such as the Torikaebaya Monogatari). If you mean in Europe, that tends to be the result of an extremely homophobic religion which tries to purge those things.

(Bear in mind these are only some of countless examples you could bring up to disprove this point.)

 

That was within the period of 6,000 years.As I said, the anomalous behaviors have their origin within the period of the past 6,000 years. Of course the Chinese (Yellow people), Nippon/ Japan (Brown people) and the Greeks (some of the White or Caucasian people) are within the past 6,000 years.

 

These children insist they are supposed to be the other gender. Parents generally do not want their childrens lives to have such an extra complication to deal with, but on the other hand more parents think today that trying to dissuade them might also be damaging, whereas in the past they would just punish and correct them until they accepted their biological sex.

 

No, they are 'trapped' in a parent-caused psychosis. Any decision to act on it (in support of the delusion, rather than in treatment of the underlying psychosis) is ENTIRELY parent-driven, and parent-desired. Once you understand that, you will fairly easily see why the child is ill. The parents themselves are mentally ill, and acting out upon their children. No different to trailer trash dysfunctionals, neglecting their kids ... or any one of a thousand unfortunate results of dysfunctional parents.

 

No physiological action (hormones, surgery, etc) should be taken while the child is a minor. Ergo, not before 18. Puberty is far too broad a time frame, as you rightly noted.

 

Modern parents don't like hard work. It's hard work to 'punish and correct', and it doesn't win brownie points with your hipster friends.

 

The most harm is done by those who encourage the child in their delusion. When authority figures (family, doctors, teachers, etc) all tell you that you really were born 'wrong', you will believe them. When reality breaks through this fantasy world (via your physical reality), the depression will be pronounced.

If you raise a daughter to believe that she is an actual Princess, then subject her to the reality of her ordinariness (because there is no possible way to make your girl an actual Princess), you have NO ONE to blame but yourself for her inevitable collapse.

 

I don't know if delusion is the right word. They tend to know they have the genitals of the gender they would prefer not to be. It's more about a deeply seated preference. Is it better to live as your default gender and forever be miserable with it, or to make changes that align with your preference but which cannot be fully realized with today's technology. If I were them, I think I would prefer the latter, though of course being convinced to enjoy being the gender you're born with is even better. I just don't know if that option is possible for everybody. Hard to know never having been in their shoes, but the durability of this preference exhibited in the link I mentioned earlier suggests it is not usually possible.

 

Just because there was no record of it happening prior to written records being kept does not mean that it was not happening.

 

How can it be, when "transgenderism" itself is a delusion?

 

You are entitled to your misinformed opinion regarding a medical condition but the "delusion" that it does not exist is with those who refuse to deal with the reality that we are not all identical cookies from a cutter.

 

There was and is a record. Through the Trillions years there have always been records of every event, large and small on this planet and within what is currently referred to as the Universe or Cosmos.

 

This planet only formed 4.5 billion years ago!

 

Crank, you have addressed two salient points. The first addresses the promotion of a child's delusion which does increase the inevitable mental construct based upon the delusion of trusted adults.
The second addresses the building of or the living vicariously through others, namely children, by the parent or parents wanting the child or children to become that which the child may or may not have an interest.
The fragility in developing a well-made child should be taken seriously or disaster will become the reality for all involved.

 

Anyone between 16+ can get sex changes, but no change-backs allowed.

 

That is the unproven theory that is currently being taught by and through the control mechanisms to aid in constructing a false paradigm. It is a fact that the planet in which we live, is the oldest planet in existence and its age goes into the trillions of years. The Sun itself is 78 trillion years old, the Earth is 72 trillion years old; in its current form, it is 66 trillion years old. So laugh all you please, I too am laughing at a person who more than likely comes from a people who have only existed for six thousand (6,000) years. What you promote is referred to as Artificial Intelligence. A.I. is information disseminated for the purpose of control, just as the RCC used to teach that the Earth is flat, when the reality is that it was and always has been what is called spherical in shape. The RCC taught this because they themselves were ignorant. and then when it became known to the leadership of the RCC that the Earth is spherical, it became a matter of control. Just as it is promoted in this modern time that perversity is natural and is "natural" when it is evident that perversity is perversity, so those who promote such perversion(s) are exhibiting their depravity for the same reason as the old RCC; C-O-N-T-R-O-L.
Perversion - noun the alteration of something from its original course, meaning, or state to a distortion or corruption of what was first intended.
Depravity - noun moral corruption; wickedness; a wicked or morally corrupt act.

 

I recommend that you wander along down the hall and on the far right you will find the Conspiracy Forum where posts like those are more than welcome.

 

Except that the vast majority of gender-confused adolescents do, in fact, grow out of it.

 

Abandon, such confusion comes from psychological trauma is a by-product or the household in which the child was groomed as well as societal factors, such as television and what the child is exposed to which is easily misunderstood or interpreted by said child. No child is born psychologically traumatized nor confused, it is learned behavior. There are the primary behaviors that are innate; hunger, sleepiness, inquisitiveness, privy functions (relief of bodily waste), thirst, itching, basic bodily functions, etc. The rest are learned behaviors. Some people refuse to accept this reality and seek to distort and manipulate situations for their own political agendas, which adds more to the confusion. This has been my observation from my own childhood and what I have recognized and realized in childhood development in general.