Why I struggle with Christianity

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  1. Le Chef

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    Child abuse and animal abuse. It's as simple as that. They are either getting worse or news coverage of it is getting worse. Anyway, Jesus may love the little children of the world, but I don't see what benefit they get out of it. Child prostitution and trafficking are worse than ever.

    I struggle, however, because the atheist's position (Chirst either didn't exist at all or was just an insane rabbi) doesn't satisfy me either. The world is better when we live according to the moral codes of Judaism or Christianity. Confucianism I have forgotten and Islam I don't know about.

    It just really bothers me that some people suffer so arbitrarily, especially good and very young people.
     
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    Well animal abuse is Judaism not Christianity.

    So you need to research your definitions better.
     
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    What Christians are having sex with children ??

    Moosleems ... sure.

    Christians ??
     
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    Atheism is a very weak faith system -- without faith.
     
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    Islam has tons of sex with children in it. So you probably should not go there either.
     
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    Why blame God and Jesus?
    Satan can be a bit of a rotter you know..;)
    Jesus said "Satan has bound this crippled woman for eighteen years" (Luke 13:16), then he cured her.
    Think of Satan not as a "person", but as a mass of bad vibes or "spiritual pollution" sloshing around the planet causing illness and disruption, a bit like the invisible monster in 'Forbidden Planet' that got its strength from the dark subconcious of Dr. Morbius-

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    Likewise, Satan gets his strength from feeding off the bad vibes radiated by assorted atheists and nonchristians.
    Hence the Bible warning to only radiate good vibes that he can't use-
    "Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things" (Philp 4:8)
     
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    Catholic priests.
     
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    God apparently tolerates suffering ... even death.

    Everyone dies. Whether now or 50 years from now.

    And some die young. Very young.

    Why get all bent out of shape over something that is inevitable ??
     
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    Well that is supposed to have stopped by now.

    Apparently Benedict stepped down because he was complicit in the cover up.

    We have a really great Pope now.
     
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    That's great then. Never mind the victims.
     
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    Not even Catholic priests and nuns are immune from the temptations of Lucifer (his Latin name given to him by St. Gerome).

    Not even Pope Benedict.
     
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    Sounds like a good reason to get rid of the RCC and the pope.
     
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    nope.
     
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    You seem to approve of the systematic ****ing of young boys, and the subsequent cover up and protection of the people involved.
     
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    nope.

    what is your next question ??
     
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    What makes you think child-abusing priests are true Christians?
    They better be good swimmers..:)-
    Jesus said- "If anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea" (Matt 18:6)
     
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    in most cases especially in man's view of victims it is man that does such to one another not God. but man doesn't live in the Presence of God unless one is born of the Holy Spirit. and if all men lived in the Presence of God there would be no atheists. but like those would no longer are present in the world, those still in the world see them as dead because their presence isn't perceived in the world any more, therefore dead to the world. so in the case of Heaven those not in Heaven or have heaven in them are dead to Heaven because they are not perceived there any more do to Adam and Eve losing that Life they had in the Presence of God.

    so to One who inhabits eternity those in the world are dead already, and those in the world have no moral standing in that case. we being born into the world are born into the life Adam and Eve were left with dust to dust ashes to ashes hence condemned to death, to return to the ground because they gave use the life they were left with through the flesh. therefore Jesus gave use the Life He has in the Spirit in the Presence of God to be restored to what was "lost".
     
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    I haven't asked any questions, I replied to yours. Christians **** children. You approve.
     
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    spam
     
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    They are members of the church, who support them and protect them, and move them on to abuse more children.
     
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    Even if it IS due to God(s) it however is just not a priority.

    This could be due to several reasons.

    Theistically, Gods' perspective is infinite and therefore the short term does not matter.

    Deistically, God cannot be troubled by it.
     
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    So report it.
     
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    troll
     
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    I'm going to move you onto the iggy with all the other morons and imbeciles actually.

    No reason to cry to mods.
     
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