To All Trump Supporters: How Much More of This Will You Condone?

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  1. Liberty4Ransom

    Liberty4Ransom Banned

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    Except it is true.
     
  2. AmericanNationalist

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    2020, he's your president and the firing is legit. Enjoy your day :).
     
  3. GreenBayMatters

    GreenBayMatters Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL Traditional Republican? He doesn't think there has been a real Republican around in over a century. McCain? You love him because he hates Trump.
     
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    And yet you rebel against this Republic and its duly elected President without so much as a single fact. My anger over this crisis has only continued to increase with these type of actions, Warren's actions, Schumer's, etc.

    None of these people can ever claim to love the US, because if they did, they'd leave the investigation be and not drag it into Congress. Yet they continue to refuse to serve the people and therefore country they were elected to serve.
     
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  5. Primus Epic

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    From the same link:
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    And, from the same exact link:
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    A simple reading of the links I provided would have made this clear. Like I said, we can play Competing Links all night long. It won't change the fact that what Trump, did was wrong and screams nothing but Cover Up.


    Then, why not fire him back in July, when Trump, had the exact same information that he just trotted out his 2nd string White House Press Secretary to lie about today. They claimed that what Comey, did back then was the "catalyst" for firing him now. Now, is May, 2017. Then, was July, 2016. That's nearly a year ago. Yet, Trump, continued to talk about how much "confidence" he had in Comey and how much confidence those working under Comey, had themselves. Suddenly, Comey, steps up pressure for putting more resources behind the investigation and ends up fired.

    How can anyone fail to see a distinct problem with that picture.


     
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    Exactly!

    Because Trump does not represent traditional Republican views, in fact, he was a self-declared Democrat far longer than a Republican. You guys were hoodwinked and don't have the balls to admit it! He doesn't represent ANYTHING other than Trump.
     
  7. AmericanNationalist

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    I would never have given Comey the resources, considering that in 10 months time he failed to provide any evidence worth CONTINUING the investigation. Furthermore he failed to give Congress ample information in both public and classified meetings. He wanted an indefinite investigation and he wasn't going to get it.

    Neither is anyone else by the way. I believe this investigation must be drawn to a swift conclusion.
     
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    Even if that were true (and I don't believe for a second that it is), faced with the prospect of having another Sonia Sotomayor on the bench, if that is the only accomplishment of the Trump administration, it is enough. This is a fine president.
     
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    William F Buckley, Jr is considered the father of American Conservatism. Denying that puts you in no position to determine who is or who isn't a conservative. Your bumper sticker quotes prove nothing. Your belief system is trapped back in the 1800's which explains your childish and repulsive views on Catholicism.

    BTW, Mr. Self-Righteous, here is a comment on your beloved Mr. Douglas (AKA Frederick Bailey), from National Review, the publication you hold in contempt:
    “Not even such justly canonized Founding Fathers as Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson represent a more splendid image and pattern for the contemporary American citizen,” the late critic Albert Murray argues. “On balance, not even Abraham Lincoln was a more heroic embodiment of the American as self-made man. After all, Lincoln, like Franklin and Jefferson, was born free.”

    Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/352730/frederick-douglass-self-made-man-rich-lowry
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...arence-thomas-vs-david-corn-charles-c-w-cooke

    Human Events had a nice report on a black State Senator who had received the Frederick Douglass Award from a group that recruits black conservatives.
    http://humanevents.com/2013/05/31/elbert-guillory-frederick-douglass-republican/

    Townhall, a popular conservative web site had a nice article
    https://townhall.com/columnists/arm...ederick-douglas-an-alternative-truth-n2285341

    The Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank on Mr. Douglass
    http://www.heritage.org/political-p...ica-race-justice-and-the-promise-the-founding

    From the conservative link, The Daily Signal
    http://dailysignal.com/2011/01/17/morning-bell-frederick-douglass’s-irrepressible-faith-in-america/

    I think your whole argument is based on a personnel belief that modern conservatives are sympathetic to white supremacist groups. You are out of line
     
  10. Seth Bullock

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    Trump wasn't the president back in July. :confused:

    Look. My impression of the man is one of a man who, above all else, thought he could thread the political needle and always split the difference and somehow survive on his good looks. He was a man who somehow lost his way because he was doing things that were not his job to do.

    His job was to investigate crimes and turn the results over to the AG's office, with no regard for timing or politics and without making public statements about those investigations. Law enforcement officers do not make public statements about ongoing investigations that have not been reviewed by the prosecuting attorneys and which may be subject to Grand Jury proceedings. This is basic. It is also not their job to usurp the authority of the prosecuting attorneys by declaring guilt or innocence of a potential defendant.

    This next part is my opinion ... I believe Comey knows these basics I have described above. But I believe that he knowingly violated those basics to give the Obama AG's office the cover it needed to not make a decision. The Obama administration obviously did not want to prosecute Hillary Clinton, and they wouldn't have, but they didn't want to be the ones appearing to make the decision, for that would make Hillary look all the more guilty. I believe there was communication between Comey and the administration - most likely Loretta Lynch or a go-between - asking him to do what he did, and he did it. I believe he anticipated a Hillary election victory (as most people did), and by doing what he did, he would secure his place in the next administration. Essentially, he compromised himself and the reputation of the FBI for what? For his own career security, and for politics.

    There is no acceptable excuse for a law enforcement officer to do that.

    Then, right before the election, he's faced with what to do about the Clinton-Abedin-Weiner emails, and the answer he arrived at was also completely unprofessional. And I believe his only concern was appearances. I think he thought he could then make it all better by quickly once again declaring that there was nothing there after all.

    What a doofus!

    Even if my opinions are completely wrong, I know my lack of faith in his leadership is shared by many in Washington and across the country. And when a department head loses that credibility and faith in his leadership, he's got to go. The agency itself is more important than he is, and he is replaceable.

    We can do better than this guy.

    The FBI is a strong institution, and it will continue to do its job. I think the FBI will continue looking into the The Great Red Scare case and eventually draw it to a conclusion, whatever that may be.

    Trump's challenge right now is to make sure he picks an apolitical law enforcement professional. He needs a tough guy in there kinda like Gen. Mattis. Someone who will simply do his job, and politics be damned. We'll see what he does, but getting rid of Comey had to be done.
     
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    Here's a real question for you. In what way will the firing of Comey effect the investigation? Has it ended? Has this somehow covered it up? Hell it irrefutabley has drawn even more attention to the issue so clearly that's not the case. So what exactly is it?
     
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    All of this is a nice show put on by the international banking cartel.

    Yep lets go dig up McCarthy and have ourselves a nice red scare tonight. It's not 2017 but 1950 and we are at risk of becoming a USSR satellite if we don't get rid of Trump and get Mike into the big chair so we save the nation. And as a bonus we can at last just start a bunch of new wars because Russia did stuff like bush did after 9/11.

    Nope not going to buy into a vast Russian conspiracy because it's not 1950 any longer. Yes Trump is a crook and has ties to the military industrial complex and banks but the Russia story is intended to get us into a war and I am not biting on this folly.
     
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    I will give you 5 reasons why this is not a deal breaker for me:

    1. Hillary was a criminal and deleted 30,000 e-mails 3 weeks after she was ordered to turn them into the FBI. Why wait 3 weeks to get them? If you want the e-mails than seize the computer instead of warning Hillary. The FBI Director was to soft and needed to be removed.

    2. There is no evidence Trump colluded with Putin or Russia and crowdstrike falsified information about the investigation. The FBI was not even allowed to run tests on the DNC server. Only crowdstrike was and they lied. What is the DNC and Democrats trying to hide?

    3. The day we impeach Trump is the day the violent radical left will try to take over and remove the EC. Trump won the majority of the 50 popular votes. He won fairly. The left wants to make us slaves. It's their way or the highway and I don't want to live in a liberal America.

    4. Trump is creating jobs and boosting our economy with more jobs. He is also saving jobs. He is protecting christian rights and building a wall on our southern border to slow the flow of illegals. He also put Syria in it's place when Obama could not. I think Trump is doing fine.

    5. The left has too many radical people that feed off of violence and protests and attack anyone who disagrees with them. They support people like Hillary and Bill Clinton, Rosie O'Donnell, Snoop Dogg and Bow wow, and many others including Black Lives Matter which is a group that supports violence. The left also is in love with Obama and thinks he was the greatest president ever when he was actually horrible.

    The left is bad for America and I won't give them any opportunity to take back power. Trump is doing fine and so is Pence. Nice try crybabies.
     
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    Try putting a sock in it. Sorry, but you guys have cried wolf so many times that it's become a drinking game. Every time a lefty brings up another one of their smear campaigns, take a shot.

    We're already smashed, and now you want us to get so drunk that we throw up?
     
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    If there was any connection between Trump and Russia the FBI would have found it by now. The problem is they were not allowed to run tests on the DNC servers to see if they were hacked and by who. Only crowdstrike was and they admitted to falsifying information to make it look like it was Trump. They were also being payed by the DNC. The FBI had to start their investigation off a report full of lies.There is no proof Trump himself had anything to do with Russia.

    I still don't get what the big deal is. Wikileaks exposed evil truths about Hillary and the left starts crying and try to say Putin and Trump are working together. That is so lame. Hillary lost the election because of herself. Not Russia. She also had outside influence when she accepted more than 10 million from Saudi Arabia. She went from broke to rich and nobody seems to care about that.

    Face the truth. You are supporting a lie put forth by the evil corrupt left and you are ignoring the fact that Hillary and the DNC had outside influence in the form of donations. What does the DNC have to hide? Why pay a private group to check your servers? Crowdstrike is not the FBI. If you really believe Putin helped Russia then why not let the FBI look at the servers? That would show how serious your claim is and then people would take it more seriously. To pay a private group to release false information tells me it's all a show by the crybaby left because they lost the election.

    I also disagree on Trump's low approval rating polls. Who takes these polls? I never have. 98% of all farms in my state of Iowa had a Trump sign in their yards. I know because I drove to Missouri and other places before the election and after. My town had many signs for Trump and maybe a handful for Hillary. America felt ignored and rejected the left. Now the left will do anything to make Trump look bad so they can retake power. They still don't understand why they lost. I am an american and I demand to be heard. The left could not care what I want or what I feel is a problem. That is why many Americans felt ignored and abandoned the left. Until the left tries to work with Republican's, Independents and the devastated economy areas they will continue to miss out on a lot of votes. Illegals and African's are not the only ones living in America.

    This is all they have left. Violent protests and crying. Nobody cares anymore. Where I live not a single person has talked about Trump around me in over a month and I work with many who drive from the big city and voted for Hillary. This is not the end of the world. If this is the worst thing Trump does then we are all going to be just fine.
     
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    Well said. Trump had nothing to do with Wikileaks. The left is just mad because they wanted Hillary to be president so bad that they will willing to hide or ignore the evil truths about Hillary but thankfully they were exposed.

    Trump would have won without the Wikileaks. To many American's in the upper midwest and great lakes areas that have been economically devastated by job loss turned their back on Hillary when she ignored them. That is a lot of votes lost. Calling Republicans deplorable, deleting evidence (e-mails) and being on stage with a singer while he was dissing God did not help her either. Wikileaks or Russia would not have changed the outcome of the election.
     
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    Iv only been black out drunk three times in my entire life, but I know that if I started playing that game i wouldn't have a single sober moment.
     
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    It would be an interesting post if there was even a shred of reality.
    All intelligence heads and congressional committees have said so far they have seen NO evidence of Trump collusion.
    Ken Starr was not made special prosecutor at all for the reason you cite.
     
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    Ahh so there has been a determination in the Russian saga and Trumps involvement in the whole affair I take it. I was offering some that was actually "Concrete" as apposed to something the Libby's dress up everyday pretty like their Barbie and Ken dolls ;)
     
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    And then the poor Libby will just replace one bad dream with another, a scary white haired monster, and then we will continue to hear the cry for "Mommy" coming from the tender Libby's at night from their closet safe places :(
     
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    Source me where he claimed "he represented traditional Republican views." So nobody was hoodwinked except you if you thought that. What he represents is certain promises he made during the campaign...which to a overwhelming majority of the people who voted for him, he is doing a good job of trying to fulfill.
     
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    You know, this post might have a shred of credibility if the left had demanded Obama's impeachment after the government's illegal wiretapping was exposed to the world.

    Or while massive civillian casualties were occuring due to US bombings, founded by your tax dollars.

    Apparently war crimes and human rights violations are not significant enough to warrant impeachment, even when the perpetrators themselves are admitting to their actions and justifying them out in the open.
     
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    I've stated this before, it's called 'perpetual outrage'.
     
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    Good God.. Don't you know yet what a public operational charity is?
     
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    Trump was furious that when he accused Obama of wiretapping Trump Towers and Comey wouldn't back him up.

    We have routinely monitored ALL traffic in and out of the Russian Embassy world wide for 50 years or more.
     

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