Can an a Christian God exist?

I think you'd better start listing chapter and verse mate or people will think you've gone nuts..

 

Here ya go mate, google "muslim paedophile gangs england" and hits like this will come up, the imams, lefty councils, social workers and gutless pol-correct police turn a blind eye to it-

 

Check your monitor display settings mate, you must have missed this verse when I posted it earlier-
"There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus" (Galatians 3:28 )
Plus of course, Jesus went around rescuing women from stone-throwing mobs-

 

Good for you mate, but now that you've evicted Jesus from your skull watch out because you've got no bouncer on the door of your mind to stop nasties getting in..
Jesus spoke of a demon seeking lodgings inside empty heads-
"..When it arrives, it finds the house unoccupied, swept clean and put in order.
Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there" (Matt 12:43-45)
In scientific terms demons are spiritual life-forms or "mind parasites" that implant themselves in human minds in order to bend the victim's will to their own. A classic example is muslim terrorism.

 

Oh please, the pope and the Catholic hierarch has clearly protected the pedophile priests. Two silly trash mag images just don't quite cut it.

 

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Pedophiles exist in all parts of society and most probably in all societies. The difference with the Catholic Church is the church hierarch is proven to have acted and is still acting to protect the pedophiles.

 

Your are welcome to your delusion. Some of us just accept life and death as it truly is.

 

To the woman he said, "I will greatly increase your pains in childbearing; with pain you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.

" To Adam he said, "Because you listened to your wife and ate from the tree about which I commanded you, 'You must not eat of it,' "Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat of it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return." (NIV, Genesis 3:16-19)

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

If God does not approve, he needs to manage his holy book better.

 

Double post.

 

The bible is filled with misogyny. Is this book of man or of God? I say misogynistic men.

 

Yes we know there are more peedo catholic priests than there are fleas crawling around on a dog's back, and there are muslim peedos too..

 

Jesus had a big female fan base who stuck with him to the end, so they obviously must have liked him..
"Jesus cried out with a loud voice, and breathed his last. There were also women looking on from afar, among whom were Mary Magdalene and Salome, who followed him and ministered to him when he was in Galilee, and many other women who came up with him to Jerusalem" (Mark 15:37)

 

Jesus said for men to honor women. Cultures have in general been paternal and misogynistic for millennia; amongst other things as bad or worse. Don't cherry pick quotes from the OT to further your agenda. It's clear Jesus and Paul the two primary movers of the church one the Head and the other the de facto leader on earth notwithstanding Peter's status, did not approve of mistreating women. It's unfortunate Paul was still stuck in the culture of Judaism.

And don't get stuck on men vs women. It was also father vs son and firstborn vs siblings as well. Even senior wives could mistreat other wives. Huge change in cultures from Judea 2000 years ago vs today. Don't lay that on God or even all on religion.

 

You need to read it in context and understanding.

 

Actually, you need to read it without your rose colored glasses. Whether it is directly or inspired by your God, he clearly sanctions or condones misogynistism towards females.

He even determined the price at which you can sell your daughters to their rapist.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 ESV / 324 helpful votes
“If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days.

 

You keep going back to a time of culture when that was acceptable. And you mine quotes forgetting those that tell men to be respectful to their wive and to only have one wive. If one loves His neighbor as himself then there is no slavery etc. You strain at a gnat and swallow a camel.

The heart of the law is love and mercy for all. And the second covenant supersedes the laws of the first. I can say a lot about the Quran and point you to the pillars of the faith rather than the hate of some. You quote the law and reject because you object to this passage or that. You don't see God as He truly is IMO.

Whether or not one accepts God either the Trinity, Allah, or YHWH, it is via faith looking to seek Him. You are looking for ways to reject Him. That's fine but I think you should consider what you are doing. I'm not certain you even realize what you do. You and others seem to be flailing about.

It seems more honest to reject the concept of God as unnecessary or too unbelieveable than to reject Him because you do not understand the theology.

 

Yes......that holds this violater responsible for his actions. Only a liberal would have anything against that.

 

I'm pointing out the fact that your holy book is all over the place because it is written by different men at different times. This book is clearly not the work of "a" god. You do not get to separate the OT from the NT. Your God should be consistent.

 

So, if someone rapes your daughter, are you going to demand from him 50 sheckels and that he marry her for life?
You call this holding him accountable?

As a father of two girls, I'd be shoving a hot rod up his arse after beating him to a pulp.

Btw, are you fine with the Israelites killing men, women and children save the virgins to be sex slaves to the soldiers, you know, them men who just hacked up their family? Well apparently, that was good with Moses and your God.

 

Love is an evolutionary outcome of the need to control another human being while at the same time wanting to be liked in return. Love itself as we know it today was not an ancient part of being a human being, it has evolved over time through social and personal development of the human species and is likely a characteristic that combined biological functions (secretions from the brain of pleasure) with social norms and conditions. Did Caesar love his wife or use her for political means? Why did Juliet love Romeo? Was it our love or the feelings of a powerless woman needing a man to survive in medieval Europe? Love as we know it today has been evolving from a presence of power (male domination) to the current semi-equal status of truly mutual admiration. The love for a child can be seen in the animal kingdom in a sense but it it love or the natural protection of off spring to propagate the species?

 

Can ANY "God" exist ?
Theres as much chance Zeus or Jupiter or Odin exists than Islamic/Christian etc faiths.
That said, so many accidents happen to start off life never mind "sentient" life.......

 

Of course you can look at them differently. One is basically the book for the Jews and Christians and the NT is strictly for Christians. The second book is about Jesus whom everyone but Christians reject as God even if a prophet. They have different messages and the tone is completely different. Islam looks at them differently as well. I'm not getting into whether or not the 'book' is God breathed or not.

There are plenty of non-Christian scholars who know this even if they don't believe a word of it. You as well don't have to believe it but if you're going to be so skeptical then have some knowledge of what you're refuting.

 

If you can't see a dog loving its master then not sure what to say. Why would another give his life in what can be even a vain attempt to save one he loves?

There are obviously neurochemical and physiological processes including pheromones involved in any emotion including love. Some of it is basic from the midbrain and some of a higher function of reason. It is also in its finality a verb; something of motion however born.

Is it all neurobiochemical? What drives man to be God aware? Is it all cultural and learned?

 

I've read the Bible complete and was a Christian for more than 35 years. I know exactly what I'm refuting. Until you scrutinize your Bible as any other book, you will not know what you are talking about.