Affirmative Action - End or Continue?

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Should Affirmative Action be continued or ended?

  1. Continue Affirmative Action

    11 vote(s)
    11.8%
  2. End Affirmative Action

    82 vote(s)
    88.2%
  1. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    In the :flagus: minorities remain minorities because of a failure to mainstream to the middle class.
    Decades ago when the Vietnamese first came to The O.C. they were poor, not speaking English, a minority. Today they have candidates in both parties, educated, not on welfare, are they still a minority?

    Irish, Latinos, Italians, Jews, Asians of all sorts have mainstreamed. Who are the hold outs?
    Black people who choose to remain in their ghetto and Native Americans who choose to remain on their reservation.

    No amount of external influence will remedy this "cultural deficiency".

    Yes to programs to teach motivated individuals to compete competitively for higher education and jobs.
    No to placement in jobs or higher education with consideration of race, religion, national origin, sexual preference, gender, and all such categorizations that should hold no influence to attain the desired position.

    Moi :oldman:

    r > g



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    No A.A. for :flagcanada:
    Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
    regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
     
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  2. shooter

    shooter Active Member Past Donor

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    the black man played a big part in the AMERICAN INDIAN GENOIDE and you want to whine about apartheid rule really .
    how about the deaths of over a 100,000,000 million souls ,the largest genocide the world has ever seen ,come of of it man ,give us our land back and go .
     
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    shooter Active Member Past Donor

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    we did not come here ,this is our land ,you people stole it ,you are the ones that did not assimilate,you just lied and stole and killed.
    get off your bs horse man ,you are the ones that killed over 100,000,000 free souls ,this is our land every inch of it.
     
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  4. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    UCLA law professor Richard Sander and journalist Stuart Taylor, Jr. note in their perceptive new book, this accommodation has not limited racial preferences in practice.

    To Sander and Taylor, the real problem is not just for those who are passed over when large racial preferences come into play, but for the beneficiaries themselves. In many cases, they say, minority students would perform better at less elite schools than in institutions where their incoming academic credentials put them at the bottom of their class. This is the “mismatch” that the book identifies: students provided sizeable admissions preferences struggle academically.
     
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  6. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We speak of different subjects. This is the Affirmative Action thread.
    I speak of an individual being successful in the 21st Century.
    That's where we are today.

    My guess is you just can't advance a neolithic people
    to the 21st Century in a mere 300 years.


    :blowkiss:
     
  7. shooter

    shooter Active Member Past Donor

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    i thank my computer is acting up,that was no my post to you.

    let me try again


    UCLA law professor Richard Sander and journalist Stuart Taylor, Jr. note in their perceptive new book, this accommodation has not limited racial preferences in practice.

    To Sander and Taylor, the real problem is not just for those who are passed over when large racial preferences come into play, but for the beneficiaries themselves. In many cases, they say, minority students would perform better at less elite schools than in institutions where their incoming academic credentials put them at the bottom of their class. This is the “mismatch” that the book identifies: students provided sizeable admissions preferences struggle academically.
     
  8. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thank you.

    "students struggle academically"
    Yes but they do get "courtesy" passing grades.
     
  9. shooter

    shooter Active Member Past Donor

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    you are welcome.
     
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    shooter Active Member Past Donor

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    no argument here.
     
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    shooter Active Member Past Donor

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    we did not come here ,this is our land ,you people stole it ,you are the ones that did not assimilate,you just lied and stole and killed.
    get off your bs horse man ,you are the ones that killed over 100,000,000 free souls ,this is our land every inch of it.
     
  12. Moi621

    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And here I thought you would be on me over #181 above. ;)
     
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    Moi621 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Clean your browser cache.

    Then see #181 above where this point is addresses. Gracias.
     
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    you're making up nonsense, and not responding to arguments.
     
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    All the quota stuff came along under Nixon, most of it after 1970, in fact. Nixon's appeasing the Black Caucus by implementing the Philadelphia Plan against the labor unions and construction contractors was the first domino; the potential for bribes and shakedowns was just too much for the Black Caucus and the NCAAP to resist, even though they were adamantly against replacing AA with quotas in the mid-1960's, as was MLK. They all knew a quota system would completely defeat the entire premise of AA, allowing massive corruption and destroying genuine reforms of schools and allowing merit based achievements, and of course they were right, that's exactly what has happened. It was also the Black Caucus that was screaming for the 'War On Drugs', by the way, and yet I heard some thug on NPR just a few weeks ago claiming it was 'Whitey's plan to undermine black progress n stuff after the Civil Rights Acts', with the interviewer sitting there agreeing with the liar, completely ignorant of the reality.
     
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    It's pretty much impossible to devalue a liberal arts degree any more than they already are. Harvard and the rest of the laughably named 'Ivy League' are already running jokes.
     
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    The topic is affirmative action.
    But go ahead and make a thread about how the black slaves are responsible for the genocide of the native americans.
     
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    'Native americans' mostly genocided each other; what few 'genocides' committed by U.S. troops were done under the commanders who served under the 'Great' Abraham Lincoln, who was a huge fan of mass murdering and plundering of civilians and appointed commanders who had the same mental illness he had.

    Native Americans weren't anybody who can snivel about anything, being happy enthusiastic murderers for hire themselves, and took slaves, and loved to take captives and torture them in creative ways merely for their own entertainment, so screw their complaints. They can go back to Asia where they came from if they're unhappy here. If 'Whitey' was such an awful genocidal oppressor n stuff, there wouldn't be any of them around at all.
     
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    I'm sure he doesn't mean that he must be held to his own standard.
     
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    The funny thing is blacks owned waaaaaayyyy more business then they did after the 1960s..



    Black Wall Street..


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/498074/



    Stupid whites.



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    stop whining,
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    FREE RIDE - Edgar Winter Group
    no one sniveling here white boy,hitler killed 6 million jews ,your people killed a 100 million free people ,weather you like it or not ,u are wrong.
    i am not surprised bu your attempt of justification ,it is the same old story from people like you,fact we where here 15000 years ago,you are one sick puppy.
     
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    How did white women suffer under Jim Crow that they need affirmative action?
     
  24. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    They had a Black Wall Street in Tulsa. You know how it ended?
    A white mob killed probably 300 people, 800 knocked in the hospital, 10.000 went homeless.

    It took 80 years for the local government of Tulsa to admit they were totally in on that massacre and gave 300 scholarships to the descendants of the victims.


    Total joke.
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    How about you look it up?
     

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