Russian Germans vote for AFD - Alternative for Germany / Russlanddeutsche für AfD

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  1. Anobsitar

    Anobsitar Banned

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    And the cake Germany was after the war exactly the Yalta cake: Germany existed not any longer and Stalin got the East of Europe. The cold war began.

     
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    Good point. This is indeed a very interesting question that I've asked myself quite a few times.
    There are things to be criticised about the so-called mainstream media (I'm not talking about the US here, they seem to have taken things to a complete new extreme) and people like Roger Willemsen or Wolfgang Herles have voiced their criticism in the past, but I find it utterly absurd when people call everything that doesn't support their personal (mostly far right) worldview 'Lügenpresse' and then turn their attention towards horribly one-sided opinion/propaganda websites and seriously think these are reliable sources because they are not part of the so-called mainstream and therefore they must be accurate.
    We only have to take a look at the many idiotic sources used on this forum.
     
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    I am very insulted by the image of Lenin, Stalin and other Commies, who killed more civilians and caused more sufferings in the 20th century, than any other totalitarian regimes, that came to power BECAUSE of Commie violence.
    But nobody was put into prison for denying or even glorifying the crimes of Commies and displaying their genocidal images.
    The Marxisy-Leninist-Party is still legal in Germany, which is an insult to the descendants of victims of these murderers, millions of them live in Germany, but their dignity does not count.
    Nobody was imprisoned for slogans, like "Bomber Harris, do it again", or "Deutschland verrecke", which are violent slogans.
    So your explanation does not work, the law neglects the sensibilities of millions and millions who live in Germany, and does not punish violent slogans.
    It seems that there are different "borderlines", concerning the freedom of speech and sensibility of different groups, and some groups are "more equal" than the majority of German citizens.

    Who cares about these stupid terms that lost their meaning?
    What are you and your Merkel are going to "conserve"?
    Gay marriages and the gay sexual education in German kindergartens?
    Christians are now promoting gay marriages, and Leftists are now warmongers who promote the agenda of globalists/banksters, and do not care a rat's ass about the interests of German workers, who are replaced with cheep coloured wage slaves from backward countries.
    If old Conservatives or Leftist could see what happened to Germany, they would spin in their graves!
     
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    How many Lenin monuments did survive until now in Ex-GDR? I never denied the crimes of communist and I always blamed Stalin and Mao for example to be worse mass murders.
    Yes, the "Die Linke" is the follower of the communist party and there were and are still further existing which are more extreme left as they ... MLDP and even the old DKP still exists! But I say that "Die Linke" is for me rubbish too!

    So you focus on the communist crimes in core and you are being upset why no one attacks them the same as the Nazi crimes? is this your reason why things like "The Holocaust is a fairy tale of the allies" are forbidden by law to say?


    So because gay marriage is allowed, you are upset? Wow ... tolerance is for sure a foreign word for you, so what then to do with gays? Locking into Psychiatry's as mentally ill persons instead facing realities that homosexuality exists since minimum 3000 years with view on the old Greeks for example and putting the realities into legal tracks?
    No, I am not gay and I don't like it, but I take it with the old Prussian core value and accept it!
     
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    Correct!
    The so called MSM is for sure not perfect and often reports BS or did not report things. Actual example:
    We remember to visit of Erdogan in the USA in May this year when his bodyguards attacked peaceful protestors and journalists in front of the Turkish embassy? Did the US MSM report intense about fact that 19 of them are in meantime accused by US ministery of justice to being taken to court and 17 are on Wanted list with arrest warrant? Actually the last 3 of them were accused by US attorney and written o arrest warrant on Tuesday ... and it is amazing when I found this true news as media report in many European medias as for example at AFP, but not a single US MSM did report this up to yesterday lunch time!

    It is now fashionable to beat the MSM and to call it a fake news, no matter what it is. Interestingly, here the "righties" beat more than the "lefties", but both do that. It is also often funny when the ladies and gentlemen on the subject of "A" beat stupidly on this or that newspaper or TV station ... but with topic "B" and where the same newspaper / TV station then more of the own conviction reported , Then they are suddenly a super source!
    And as you say, alternative sources are taken, where the propaganda and the intellectual garbage already stinks from far away ... no matter whether the right fake news of Breitbart or the left fake news of Voltairenet ... only to mention 2 of them!
     
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    It seems that you agree that there is a double standard regarding the Commies and National Socialists, their crimes and the "freedom of speech".
    There are different standards for different "moral sensibilities" that can only be explained by assuming that there are different groups of victims and perpetrators, and that some of them are "more equal" than others.
    So the annoying talk about the "equality" is another lie.
    And it seems that you agree with me, the term "Conservative" became a joke, unless conservatives want to "conserve" the very recent and very radical destruction of conservative values, regarding Church, Society and Family.
    So why do you bother to write a lot of empty text, when you basically agree with me?
    And why should I care about your own sexual life?
    You call yourself a "Conservative", so what is there left you want to " conserve"? What is the difference between you and other radicals, that destroyed all traditional values in an historically extremely short time?
    And you talk about "extremists" and "radicals"?
    Sorry, but extremists and radicals are in ruling positions today.
    Do you hope that I will accept the Orwellian "Newspeak", in which all terms are re - defined by the "Ministry of Truth"?
    :)
     
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    And I for half of year was writing Skype messages to my friend who turned out to be dead this whole time. You can't live with your brain wrapped around trauma forever.

    Snap out of it and move on.
     
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    Congratulations. Wish you luck with fixing up your government and making it into efficient continuation of people's will instead of what it is now. Sincerely wish you luck.
     
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    is an important instrument in avoiding historical mistakes and avoiding creation of "sacred cows". If 'undeniable' thing can not stand being questioned - it evidently shows that it was not based on legit facts. And if it is based on legit facts - then questions will be answered and those who question it will be proven that it is real. No harm comes from that. Doubting things IS important, it's the way the critical thinking works. Many in USSR were hushed from doubting that, for example, Lenin was "father of the revolution". Despite him sitting on his arse in Austria during the ACTUAL REVOLUTION, stuffing his pockets with marks and his gut with beer, while without him THIS was happening:


    Having a doubt in "undeniable" and "unquestionable" is principally nearly vital for healthy society. At least often have been proven so - and I just gave you one of examples of that.
     
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  10. Ninian

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    Does not changes fact that division of country happened after war ENDED. And before that - during period when happened the destruction of tank by Sobo's greatgrandfather - in the area where it happened advanced US soldiers, not USSR ones. So this tank was doing what it was doing what it was made for - to shoot explosive shells at targets. At other tanks, as soldiers, at buildings. It was destroying things and ending lives. Just as any. Other. Tank.
     
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    The question is to live in the best of all possible worlds. To let Thuringia conquer from US-Americans was much more better than to let it conquer from Soviets.
    Not to let Thuringia or Germany be conquered was impossible. This man had not acted in the interest of Germany, if he really did what is said here - or he was just simple a liar.

     
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    First of all - nearly everybody in face of armed strangers will stand for their home and family. Second - it was first half of XX century, and pretty much people knew back then about foreign countries as much as today knows some villager in distant obscure settlement.

    What did that man - was motivated, backed by logic and emotion.


    On top of that, I remind you - people under USA occupation lived awful for first years of the said occupation, and after that recovered only via efforts of germans themselves. Occupants in Western Germany did not much more for germans than did occupants in Eastern Germany. Because of broken political system of USSR that had to often rely on repressions at the end of period of division have been evident that live in Western Germany generally was better, but in both parts of country people went through shortages of food and economic crisis, through rebuilding ruined cities and infrastructure.

    You assume not letting Germany to be conquered was impossible? In Great War it was not conquered, it laid weapons down vie a voluntary cease fire. And after that it was forced into ruining conditions of peace agreement under threat of invasion of it's enemies. And it was a democratic government, I remind you, who have been forced in that agreement. Not monarchy, nor authoritatian dicatorship.

    So germans, both who not cared for politics and those who cared for them had reasons to fight fiercely for their land as long as they could, for their country already once faced devastation by peace. But they lost. And it took nearly a half of century to merely unite their country. And you think this is an outcome that people deserved?
     
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    Well, there is a thing, called credibility.

    If somebody was caught lying many times, why not call a spade a spade?
    Fool me once, blame on you, fool me twice...

    Yes, there is a possibility that independent sources are not credible, too, they may even be set up as traps by the same people that control the "Lügenpresse".

    But any intelligent person can quickly find out who is who, if he double checks the facts.

    I think that the journalists and media are losing their power, we do not need any middleman any more, due to the technological progress. The world is so interconnected, that people can talk to each other (if they speak English and other main languages) without any lying and corrupt middleman, that is distorting the facts.

    Why do I have to believe some lying and low-IQ journalist about what Putin, Trump, Assad, Ahmadinejad etc are saying, when I can just listen their interviews? I can read what they are saying on Twitter without the distortion of some lying journalists. Everybody has a smart phone with a cam and a mike, so we do not need these dishonest cameramen any more, they became obsolete.

    We do not need these "Presstitutes" any more, we can communicate directly and get our information from the horses's mouth.

    Only low-IQ people who do not speak languages, are still dependent on these lying pigs, called "journalists", and only they can be still fooled.
     
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    Agree 99.9%.
     
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    My German friends tell me that Merkel will have to form a coalition. They describe her as the "least of all the evils", and that's why they are sure she will win. Yes, we in America are very, very familiar with this concept also.... Too bad none of us in "the West" can do any better than finding a "least of all evils"....

    [​IMG]. "I'm the best of the worst! Gut genug!" :cheerleader:
     
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    Well, for last four elections since Eltzin's retirement we in RF too were voting for "least of evils". Does not works quite well, you end up with few somewhat decent politicians and a whole lot of corrupted scammers and thieves. Apparently it is time to change manner of picking electoral candidates.
     
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    Counterquestion: Was "phraseology" a subject in your school?

     
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    Listen. You are right now crossing more than just a red line, ok? Back off, you are being seriously plainly wrong right now.
     
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    No, in Russian language words pretty much go in nearly any part of sentence. It happens to be that way in some other languages. You, for example, do not have grammatical gender in your language.
     
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    you should check ninian,,,maybe your "grandparent "fraternized" with some Wehrmacht panzer grenadier on his way to Moscow during operation Typhoon. mozhe mayesh nemtzam vosobeeh",lol!!!
     
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    Love it Ostap especially the picture! Merkel following Honecker, Stalin and Lenin. When we hear about your love for the KKK it makes it even better! The poor English in these posts (after posting on an English language website for years) must take some crafting and they look pretty real. Your posts never get boring. Let's have the NSDAP back in power eh? Have you got that far yet?
     
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    We have a hell of a lot more to worry about with the rise of ANTIFA in this country than we do with any so-called "Nazis"....

    [​IMG] .THIS is what a REAL 21st-century American Nazi looks like! ANTIFA! :machinegun:-- "Got it!"
     
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    I have three grammatical genders in my language.

     
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    Than we need on other political system, plain and simple.
    Why we must allow "least of all evils" ruin countries they run?
    The current political system is completely created by thieves, liars and presstitutes.
    Whites need one system which helps them, not kills.
     

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