Knife-wielding campus pride leader killed by police at Georgia Tech

I don't see why any campus police department wouldn't equip their police with less-lethal options like that. Of course, if the officer felt his or her life was in danger, I certainly don't blame them for reaching for their firearm instead anyway.

 

The text book answer is always that they are not trained that way! Surely the question is why are they not trained that way? If they could not hit a leg from less than 10 feet away they should not be carrying a gun. In this case, the boy had an unopened pen knife and was spoken to for ten minutes by four camp officers. He was no direct threat. How would these officers have dealt with drunk students who could pose more of a threat

 

The person was approaching the police at the same speed as an 82 year old man in a grocery store.
Watch the video. The person had a knife. I know those are stressful situations for police officers, but good gosh, that was needless.
You wouldn't have to feel bad for the officer if he shot the person in the foot or leg.
Or taze the person.
An the officer wouldn't have had to apologize to the person after he shot him.
It could have been handled better, appropriate or not.

 

I don't think I am.

Lets start with the first paragraph...

"The prevalence of suicide attempts among respondents to the National Transgender Discrimination Survey (NTDS), conducted by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and National Center for Transgender Equality, is 41 percent, which vastly exceeds the 4.6 percent of the overall U.S. population who report a lifetime suicide attempt, and is also higher than the 10-20 percent of lesbian, gay and bisexual adults who report ever attempting suicide. Much remains to be learned about underlying factors and which groups within the diverse population of transgender and gender non-conforming people are most at risk."



If how exactly am I misreading that?

 

Unopened knife I believe.

 

Its been tried and it was found that it did not eliminate the threat and was also quite deadly.

The israelis tried it (specifically aiming at knees with the 22lr round which is far weaker than most pistol or rifle rounds) and the were killing more "protesters" as a result.

Its not just a question of marksmanship, its a question of if it stops the threat and it does not. Hence why no training for it.

 

Where does it say that half of them attempt suicide?

 

Don't shoot at all if not necessary

But always shoot to kill

 

I can't tell if its opened or not from the video. It takes a fraction of a second to open a knife in any case.

Whats clear is he had a knife (deadly weapon), refused to comply with the police, and then advanced on them.

Regardless of how you feel about that-its the type of thing that will get a person shot.

 

Heres what I said- "The fact is nearly half of transgenders attempt suicide."

I then posted this citation....

"The prevalence of suicide attempts among respondents to the National Transgender Discrimination Survey (NTDS), conducted by the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and National Center for Transgender Equality, is 41 percent, which vastly exceeds the 4.6 percent of the overall U.S. population who report a lifetime suicide attempt, and is also higher than the 10-20 percent of lesbian, gay and bisexual adults who report ever attempting suicide. Much remains to be learned about underlying factors and which groups within the diverse population of transgender and gender non-conforming people are most at risk."


See it now?

 

Nope. Watching the video from the 0:42-0:43 mark, I can easily see the blade. Ice pick grip. The blade is facing the direction of the pinky.

 

I don't think that percentage is the percentage of the overall transgender population. The same study uses 40 something percent when talking about adolescents, but I seriously doubt that nearly half of all teenagers attempt suicide.

 

The study goes on to break it down by age group as well-see table 3. Its 45% for people under age 24.

There are other studies that also show the attempted suicide rates for any and all transgenders are through the roof high, and in fact rise AFTER sexual reassignment surgery.

And I haven't even touched on comorbid psychiatric conditions and substance abuse.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043071/

http://www.dailywire.com/news/5683/3-facts-about-transgenderism-media-ignored-push-ben-shapiro#

 

Doesn't identify as Male or Female...well obviously something was wrong upstairs. Society can share some of the blame for trying to normalize mental illness. There should have been glaring red flags about this persons Mental Health long before this happened.

 

I cannot see the reason why people still think shooting at the leg is something that is an option

 

Well the fact that she even insisted her parents called her "They" we can see clearly what the state of her mental wellbeing was. Poor. Shame we live in a society that try's to normalize and even celebrates a mental illness rather then treat it. Maybe she'd be alive to day if...

 

I'm not arguing that their rates aren't higher. They are pretty much one of the most marginalized groups imaginable, and being consistently treated like **** means that, yes, suicide and drug abuse rates will be higher. They are also disproportionately the targets of violence and sexual assault, and more likely to face homelessness.

Meanwhile, other research has shown that the mental health aspects are mitigated when raised in a supportive household.
https://www.theguardian.com/society...sgender-children-mental-health-family-support

 

Feelz and movies.

 

According to the mental health experts, being trans is not a mental illness. And again, research has shown that the mental health aspects here are mitigated when the child is raised in a supportive household.

 

Lack of range time?

 

Yeah, it's an insanely stupid argument.

Cops are taught to shoot center mass, period.

If you don't want to get shot by a cop, don't come at them with a knife or gun, fairly simple really....

For every wrongful death by cop, there are 50 justitified.

 

Even internationally, and in cultures were transgenderism is celebrated there are higher rates of suicide.

The fact is these people are sick.

 

Which part of society is it that claims gender is a social construct again?

 

Lack of appreciation of reality.

 

And yet the narrative is the exact opposite.

Imagine what the narrative would be if there wasn't video of this shooting.

They'd be saying a bunch of confederate cops decided they wanted to kill a cross dresser.