Trickle down vs Trickle up...

Hey, both scenarios sound great to me. Was one of them supposed to be bad, or something?

 

To charge Goverment with health care is similar to how they do now to build aircraft carriers. Tell me if the cost of the nuclear aircraft carrier has gone up or gone down?

But you did not tell me why the term single payer is used.

And you did not justify the lower cost of health care.

Do you not get this? 535 men and women will be happy to blow billions for you on health care so you won't pay directly for your own. Sure, but why aren't they doing it? Obama could have.

Since being on medicare I learned the folly of the Feds paying for my health care. The best deal of all was the Bush drug plan and that one I love very much. Do you love the Bush health plan for drugs?

 

This is so funny. And the perfect example of how Republican "logic" (if we can lonely call it that) works

First Republicans come parroting this great Reagan "accomplished" they just heard about on wingnut media. So you show them that it's just a wingnut media "myth", and that the results were the opposite of what they are being told... So immediately Republicans blame Democrats for exactly the same thing....

Republicans have been trained by the wingnut media to produce automatic canned responses applicable to any situation whatsoever, which don't require the use of any type of brain activity. What they don't realize is that it just makes them look foolish.

 

Well... I can't think how you could get farther away from the real world than this.

Can you imagine if we included in the GDP the number of loafs of bread bakers have managed to keep stashed away for months? But not if they sold them! They need to keep them in order for them to be considered real "wealth"

Remember: today is only Thursday. You still need to work half a day tomorrow... Not the time to get so carried away with the "juice" yet.

 

You really do need to take that ECONOMICS 101 course.

 

Reagan Derangement Syndrome ^^. Amazing.

 

You have not contradicted what I said.

 

Derangment-Syndrome Derangement Syndrome

 

Please come back when you're better informed. It's not even worth the effort anymore to read anything you write...

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/20/trump-lawsuit-att-time-warner-merger-250956

It's not even fun anymore to expose your foolishness.

 

Not necessarily. But they do tend to exclude each other. Unless a $30 Trillion deficit also sounds good to you.

 

Nope. Not my job to assign wages.

 

I didn't spend it.

 

You proposed a scenario where your employer doesn't pay you what you're worth. How do you know what you're worth?

 

That's a good question.

 

Because it's off-topic. We don't want the Mods throwing funny looks at us, do we?

So you could either google it, or open a thread.

But I have to work tomorrow so...

 

By using the calculator That's how you calculate what you're worth.

 

The authors of that calculator base its estimates on salaries being paid now; IOW; on what existing employment contracts have already been agreed to by both parties.

How can you know what a thing is worth abstracted from what anyone has ever agreed to pay for it?

 

I never said that bakers need to keep bread in order for it to be considered wealth. You just flat made that up. In fact, I said the very opposite when I said "wealth includes not only currency, but assets as well". See, if and when he sells the bread, then the currency from that sale also counts as wealth. Duh. But the point of wealth creation is when he increases the value of his existing assets from ingredients to bread. This is basic economics, bro.

 

It’s worse than first thought.

 

Please read your own links before embarrassing yourself.

 

And you are correct.

I have paid wages to men and women in several fields.
1. Auto racing
2. Management over Construction jobs
3. Machine shop where I owned the business so named the wages
4. Real Estate where a Broker named my wages
5. My ownership of a brokerage where I named the wages paid
6. My ownership of an Appraisal firm, ditto I named the wages
7. Ownership of a real estate loan firm. Yup, I named the wages paid.

So the Feds never picked out my wages.

As a then Director of the local 3500 member real estate board, I got to vote to pick the wages for our CEO who was not a Realtor but operated our local real estate board where we directed him on his duties.

How did we derive his income?

We picked a committee of past RE board presidents who were willing to evaluate him.

Said committee then handed to we Directors what they saw fit to pay the man.
We had a reference book handed to us all showing incomes of comparable jobs.

His income contract was settled by we Directors voting for the figures.

I believe my vote then was nay. We paid him too much.

i wish we had Democrats who actually did choose wages to pay to CEO on down. It would be a much more fertile argument.

 

How can I delete and not have to erase then save changes?

 

You're making it sound like you had complete control over what they worked for. But that could never have been the case, right? I mean, if it were, and you paid any of them more than 1 cent over the entire course of their employment, then you overpaid. Since nobody would agree to such an arrangement, anyone who worked for you must have had some say in what you paid them.

 

Stop, Leftist think along those lines already and your just adding to the problem and the delusion

 

So you and your employer are using different calculators? Is that why he's not paying you what you're worth?