How about a new abortion law

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by logical1, Dec 15, 2017.

  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Always reduce the discussion to "identity politics". My logic is better than your....nah nah!
     
  2. thinkitout

    thinkitout Well-Known Member

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    REALLY??? The other poster asserted that late-term abortions were more a matter of "convenience" than necessity. . . . I brought up Bush to illustrate the hypocrisy of changing opinions due to personal involvement.

    It irritates me when posters dismiss any information not supporting their perspectives as invalid or irrelevant. . . . Don't bother to invite yourself to respond to another of my posts.
     
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    REALLY!!!
    1. Your comment was based on an unproven accusation.
    2. Quite often views and opinions change as people mature. Bush would have been in his mid twenties at the time claimed by the accusation.
    3. We supposedly elect politicians to represent OUR views, NOT their own.


    Then stick with proven/provable facts and be prepared to provide proof when asked.
    An invitation is not a requirement for responding to anyones post, but feel free to place me on your ignore list and you won't have to read or respond to my posts in the future.
     
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    When a MALE politician is elected, he not only has a right but also a duty to represent the views of his constituents, both men and women, which may or may not represent his own personal views. We elect politicians not to impose their views upon us, but to protect us from having others views imposed upon us, hence the 10th amendment.
     
  5. thinkitout

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    Roe vs. Wade defined abortion as a woman's RIGHT, exempting it from legislation or politicization. The Tenth Amendment is irrelevant to this.
     
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    Any law passed on the issue will most likely be truncated or trashed by one of the circuit courts of appeals or in an unlikely ramification, perhaps even be heard by scotus. That has to be taken into account when a law is drafted.

    The man might later be held accountable by garnishment for the next full-term child he helps produce and does not support to age 18 or through college, but I doubt he can be fined before the fact (or potential fact) on an unrelated event just because it would do some good.
     
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  7. FoxHastings

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    :) Yes, and representatives should protect women from "having others views imposed upon" them like Anti-Choicers are trying to do...
     
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    :roflol:

    Ironic coming from someone who lacks subject matter knowledge on this topic.
     
  9. Derideo_Te

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    So you are opposed to the new law proposal by the OP that infringes upon reproductive rights?
     
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    Bingo!
     
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    Better yet, the father she names would be executed. His remains would be used for lady's night at the club.
     
  12. thinkitout

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    I repeat from post #255:

    Roe vs. Wade defined abortion as a woman's RIGHT, exempting it from legislation or politicization. The Tenth Amendment is irrelevant to this.

    Congress has no authority to pass laws regulating abortion, nor do state legislatures.
     
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    Only in the 1st trimester are abortions exempt from regulations.

    RvW ruled that the states could regulate how abortions were performed in the 2nd trimester and restrict abortions in the 3rd trimester provided there was an exemption for the life and health of the woman concerned.
     
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  14. Robert

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    One major problem. Many, perhaps most black women have no idea who got them pregnant. Not sure but perhaps DNA swabs could help solve that.
     
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    Which kills the idea that she has a right. Temporary rights are not rights.
     
  17. Robert

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    Is that what Australia did? Why is there a lack of support for Freedom in Australia?
     
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    Complete and utter nonsense.

    That is the kind of disingenuous disinformation that is spouted on white supremacist nazi websites.

    Short of date rape drugs ALL women know who they have had sexual relations with.
     
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    Abortion was LEGAL when this nation was founded and the BoR passed therefore reproductive rights belong to We the People per the unenumerated rights wording of the 9th Amendment.

     
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    Well, black women can guess who the father is. But for a fact, millions of them have no clue and when they must know, they have a paternity test. Do you know what a paternity test is?

    Many the program, Maury Povich hunts for the fathers and often has no clue who it was nor has found out who it was.

     
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    Once again the glaring lack of legal subject matter knowledge is readily apparent.

    ALL rights can be REGULATED!

    Regulating a right does NOT infringe upon the right itself.

    All women have an absolute right to a 1st trimester abortion and a regulated right to a 2nd trimester abortion. They can NOT be denied an abortion during the 1st and 2nd trimesters.
     
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    Good grief!

    You use a tabloid TV show as "evidence" to disparage millions of women?

    Paternity tests are used when the guy denies he is the father.

    When Maury Povich is the "source" of your disinformation you only harm your own credibility.
     
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    Racist

    Identifying one particular group and denigrating them IS racist
     
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    When women look with adoring eyes upon their just born children, they must regret the children they killed until at last they wanted the baby.
     
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    Not really. It sure upset you. But that is not my mission to upset as it is for you.

    I would love for you to tell me of your joyful times participating in abortions. For me, it sucked the big hot dog.

    It felt like attending an execution.
     

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