that's bogus here or other places. the right of the people to keep and bear arms existed from the beginning of time. Since the federal government was never given any proper power to interfere with that right, the right remained intact until the FDR administration dishonestly mutated the commerce clause. whether you were in the military or militia has no relevance or impact upon that right
Does anyone else notice that governments stop including reasons for what they do in their legislation as soon as they gain recognition as a government?
Over the last few months as I’ve spent time on these forums, I’ve found myself reading the words of the posts, but also seeing what was underneath those posts; specifically, the worldviews of those engaged in the conversations. I find myself thinking about something other than firearms rights; specifically the core of what Freedom itself means, and whether we are, in fact, free. Several of those who espouse the belief that we need gun control regularly assert that those of us who believe in the Constitutional Right to be armed have already lost the argument, because we already have restrictions upon the right despite the whole “shall not be infringed” part of the 2nd Amendment, so we should just accept whatever government decides to shove down our throats. Our rights themselves, they assert, are simply functions of government; nothing more than privileges that can be readily revoked. What is most painful about their assertions is that, on one level at least, there is some truth to it. The American people do, indeed, accept extensive infringements upon their basic freedoms and liberties. The government has managed to twist, rationalize, and lie the American people into accepting all kinds of abuses. Our rights only exist so long as we possess the will and strength to stand up and fight for them, but we instead accept impositions because we want to be “reasonable” and we want to “go along to get along”. I have spoken before about how there are people who have hit a wall and have begun to dig in their heels, refusing further infringements. Other people cringe and shy away from such talk, and they denigrate and dismiss the words of people who have begun to say, “No more.” I myself have expressed my willingness to draw a line in the sand in the face of certain kinds of infringement, and I’ve been mocked and derided for it. I am told, again and again, that there is “no way” that a bunch of ordinary Americans, armed with simple small arms, could resist the will of the All-Powerful Government. Well, maybe they’re right. Maybe we have become a nation of cowards and spineless sheep. I watch the idiocy on television, and I listen to the politicians speak, and I wonder that we survive as a nation at all. People demand “safe spaces” and to rewrite the very language we use so we can show “respect” for that which is detestable and devoid of fundamental morality. Benjamin Franklin once said that “they who surrender essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” Today, people surrender their liberty on a daily basis and think they’re doing something somehow enlightened and “progressive.” In reality, what they’re doing is cowardly, weak, and ever more destructive to our basic liberties and freedoms; destructive enough I fear it is too late to save the Republic. When the Constitutional Convention was concluded, and Benjamin Franklin emerged from the meetings, a woman in the crowd called out to ask what kind of nation had been created. Franklin’s response was simple: “A Republic… if you can keep it.” Tragically, we have NOT kept it. It has withered and starved and choked on the apathy of people who have lost the courage and the will to stand up and fight for it; who have ignored the assaults on their rights and the corruption of the Constitution until the Constitution isn’t worth the words printed on it. Freedom should be defined as having the right to take responsibility for yourself. Instead, our culture mocks responsibility and defines “Freedom” as being free from responsibility. Our culture now wants to be taken care of and protected and to have their lives micromanaged and they vote for political leaders who promise them they will be taken care of, and they rage at those who choose not to accept the insidious totalitarianism they themselves find so comforting. Here, people talk about the Constitution "evolving", without proper amendment, and think that is somehow a good thing. I find it disgusting and offensive in the extreme, and wonder at what happened to our national backbone; that we would continue to allow such to happen.
There is a specific reason that the founding fathers chose the words that they did. They reiterated their intentions in their subsequent quotes. I think it’s shameful that people think the can make up a completely new meaning so they can justify their perversion of the document.
like those who claim that anything short of a complete ban on all firearms is not an "infringement" how can anyone say such nonsense with a straight face?
Rather violent indulgences and flights of fancy eh ? Given to whims much ? More people die each year due to second hand smoke... Almost 1/2 Million victims claimed by diseases related to Tobacco use, much worse.
Link https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_st...h_effects/tobacco_related_mortality/index.htm "Overall mortality among both male and female smokers in the United States is about three times higher than that among similar people who never smoked.1 The major causes of excess mortality among smokers are diseases that are related to smoking, including cancer and respiratory and vascular disease.1,2,3,4 Smokeless tobacco is a known cause of cancer. In addition, the nicotine in smokeless tobacco may increase the risk for sudden death from a condition where the heart does not beat properly (ventricular arrhythmias).5 Tobacco use is the leading preventable cause of death in the United States.1,3 Cigarettes and Death Cigarette smoking causes about one of every five deaths in the United States each year.1,6 Cigarette smoking is estimated to cause the following:1 More than 480,000 deaths annually (including deaths from secondhand smoke) 278,544 deaths annually among men (including deaths from secondhand smoke) 201,773 deaths annually among women (including deaths from secondhand smoke)
A well Armed Citizenry, so they can participate mandatorily in THE well regulated ( local ) Militia using their own Arms and Ammunition. Correct...
That comment was an inside joke and was not directed at you, Why do you object ? Hmmmm ? Does Humour escape you much ? If Maximatic did not object as you can see, why should you ?
