House Intelligence memo released: What it says

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    And the plot within the Obama administration has become quite transparent. You do realize that this started with a bogus application for a FISA warrant and that that taints the fruit of the entire investigation. What do they have that will not be tossed in court?
     
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    Just cause they cant be released to the public, doesnt mean they cant be seen by government officials, including judges
     
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    Bogus even though we haven't seen it? Was the popodopolous conversation bogus? The memo says that was the basis for opening the investigation.
     
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    Finally... somebody I can talk to ....

    What do you think of my post #93?? I hope the FISA application is not solely based on the Steele Dossier and the YAHOO NEWS article, which might have been derived from the Dossier... Certainly, the FBI would have had more than those 2 things, right??
     
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    Its not just the memo, but everything else too.
     
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    Well, according to some on the left, the memo signals the end of democracy. LOL
     
  7. Bluesguy

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    GEEEZ have you not read it. McCabe testified that WITHOUT THE INFORMATION IN THE DOSSIER no warrant would have even been sought.
     
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    From what I can tell, these partisans are ok with the FBI being crooked and corrupt. For it serves their partisanship. Not that damned hard to see. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
     
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    Presenting in court a bunch of partisan smear and lies as legitimate FBI evidence and not informing the court about the origin and credibility (or lack of thereof) of this evidence is a major crime, regardless of all other circumstances.
     
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    yeah, he was drunk and told an stories in a bar
     
  11. The Mello Guy

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    Why can't they be released? Isn't transparency the reason they released the bogus memo?
     
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    Do you think the Trump Tower meeting or the attempt to cover up that meeting will be tossed?

    How about the multiple times that Trump associates claimed that they had zero interactions with Russian officials and then altered that story?

    Lying to the FBI is still a crime.
     
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    I just read the memo twice and it does not prove any inpropriety on the part of the FBI or THE DOJ. It whines about Page being surveilled but the reason that Page was surveiled is because Pagecwas working with or he was being worked on by Russia intelligence as a useful idiot of. Possible you a foolish jerk performing work for Russian spies. The FBI broke up the Russian spy ring that Page was part of .
     
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    lol you better hope he's telling mueller that
     
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    poor Wray, finding out his dream job comes with some serious baggage
     
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    Line Item 1:
    * The Steele dossier formed an essential part of the initial and all three renewal FISA applications against Carter Page.
     
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    If its released to the public, that means its also released for consumption by the russians.

    Do you want the russians to know how the NSA wire taps the russian government?
     
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    Since when is that probable cause of a crime? And it was one trip, a perfectly legal trip.
     
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    I believe that is accurate. I know that I have seen reports that Carter Page was approached all the way back in 2013 by the FBI about their concern that Russia was trying to recruit Mr. Page. So, it stands to reason that they have additional information about Mr. Page that was used in the FISA application.
     
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    Heck, they missed the part that McCabe was removed from the FBI because of this memo.
     
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    Amazing people are coming here trying to deflect the memo without even reading it.
     
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    That isn't going to happen! This I can tell you!
     
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    According to who?
     
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    ...I said that. Yes.

    But again, "would have been sought" and "evidence presented to the judge in order to obtain the warrant" are two different issues.
     
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    Yeah, an Australian says Papadopoulos says, that a Russian professor says, "he heard a rumor about Clintons email". Seriously? That's basis for a FISA warrant?
     
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