Illegal immigrants have no automatic right to freedom, Supreme Court rules

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  1. Zorro

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    Immigrants being held for deportation don’t have an automatic right under the law to post bond and be set free, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled Tuesday in a decision that could give the Trump administration more freedom to pursue stiff detention policies for illegal immigrants who show up at the border claiming asylum.

    In the 5-3 ruling, the justices also took a dim view of the kinds of class-action lawsuits on behalf of immigrants that have become a key tool for anti-Trump immigrant rights activists, leaving the activists worried about the fates of other cases winding their way through the lower courts challenging President Trump on issues such as illegal immigrant Dreamers and Iraqi deportees.

    The ruling was also a rebuke by the high court to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit, which had its [stupid] decision overturned.

    Chided the 9th Circuit for ignoring the text of immigration laws and creating a legal standard for bail hearings “out of thin air” by requiring that immigrants be given periodic bail hearings.

    “... does not give a court the authority to rewrite a statute as it pleases,” Justice Alito wrote for the majority.

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/27/supreme-court-backs-donald-trump-illegal-immigrant/


    Alejandro Rodriguez, a Mexican national has been in the U.S. as a lawful permanent resident since 1987. After several criminal convictions the government began deportation proceedings in 2004. The government detained him during the proceedings. The alien criminal argued that he was "entitled" to bail.

    The lower courts, unbelievably, agreed!

    Alito, Roberts, Kennedy, Gorsuch and to an extent, Thomas — said that amounted to a wholesale rewrite of the law.

    Justice Neil Gorsuch voted with the majority.

    "The biggest effect of Tuesday’s ruling could be on the surge of migrants who have shown up on the border in the past few years demanding asylum. Their numbers have swelled as smugglers have taught illegal immigrants to use magic words claiming fear of being sent back home to get on the asylum track," Dinan wrote.

    "The Trump administration has argued that it should be allowed to hold them while their cases proceed — hoping that it will tamp down on bogus claims. Analysts said the Tuesday ruling appears to give the administration broad detention powers in those cases."

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  2. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I’m tempted to take out ads in Mexican newspapers telling them that if they come here and get caught then be prepared not to see daylight for a looooong time.
     
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    The Court ruled that they are not entitled to a Bond Hearing.

    Or, to put it another way, the court ruled that US Government can detain an illegal immigrant indefinitely without charging them or permitting them to even be heard before a judge within a certain period of time.
     
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    Not indefinitely but until their proceedings conclude. RODRIGUEZ et al are lucky they've been allowed a more extensive hearing than most. They could have opted immediate deportation, removal without further hearing or review but they chose to stay. The process is in play and the nearly deported aren't complaining about any of that.

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    garding the detention or release of any alien or the
    grant, revocation, or denial of bond or parole.”
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    Sounds like a good decision to me.
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    The court ruled that immigrants "don't have an automatic right" as per the OP. Immigrants, let's call them potential citizens, would have absolutetly zero inctive to apply for citizenship if they were immediately granted the rights of actual US citizens. Progressives see no problem with granting illegals rights. I look south of the US border and see those countries conditions deteriorating, and being ruined by the goverment our "potential citizens" elected, and SMH. Where are Americans going to seek refuge once we're the minority on our soil? The SCOTUS sent a clear message with this ruling.
     
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    I tend to favor that, with the option of having biometrics taken and being deported with a lifetime ban on ever entering the country or receiving residency. Any subsequent re-entry should be met with a 10 year prison sentence then deportation.

    At the same time, end chain migration entirely and expand legal immigration so long as they agree to assimilate and stay in the country for 10 years. A little more like the Swiss system.
     
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