Do you think firearm technology has hit its peak?

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  1. Jestsayin

    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    SIG P365 pretty cool.
     
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    ECA Well-Known Member

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    Who specifically stated they were fantasizing about new and better ways to kill bunches of school kids? Oh right, no one. You're just talking out of your ass
     
  3. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The only person on this thread I see with a message fantasizing about killing a bunch of school kids is you. The topic is "gun technology" and YOU think "kill bunches of school kids." That is disturbing in a way.

    Not ONE person in this topic even hinted at higher rate of fire guns - other than YOU.
     
  4. JakeJ

    JakeJ Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm surprised no company has made a replica. I've looked many times. The Girandoni has an excellent, but crude, fast loading system. It was even used by some militaries, but had logistics and costs problems.
     
  5. GoogleMurrayBookchin

    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    One of these is bound to actually be it one of these times. And we have no reason to believe it isn't this one. Islands are losing feet of coastline a year. Arizona was so hot plastic objects started melting last summer.

    But let me tell you why we're absolutely the most ****ed.

    Think about what the weather is like in Siberia. Life is sparse, the ground is always frozen, and anything that dies ends buried under the snow and preserved. Siberia is filled with trapped deposits of greenhouse gasses from this decay, more than anywhere else in the world, but the permafrost keeps it at bay.

    But the permafrost is melting. And gas is getting out. The more gas gets out, the faster the melting gets, the more gas gets out. Do you see the problem here? It's a feedback loop that naturally accelerates. We already started this and we aren't anywhere close to putting the breaks on it, and it's only going to get exponentially faster. We aren't going to catch up.

    That's not a small problem either. Siberia is colossal and there is thousands of years of a continent-spanning ecosystem buried under that ice.

    Think about how big the earth is. How many places are there like this that we don't even know about?

    The best case scenario for the future of humanity involves hundreds of millions of people dying to climate change, and we'll thank god that only that many died.


    Nobody likes to talk about the evidence for this because it's already too late. We'd rather die in blissful ignorance. I don't blame you for not hearing about much of this. My first exposure was an anarchist essay called Desert by an anonymous author.
     
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  6. Stevew

    Stevew Well-Known Member

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    Malthus wrote similar crap in 1798.

    Wikipedia: Malthus also saw that societies through history had experienced at one time or another epidemics, famines, or wars: events that masked the fundamental problem of populations overstretching their resource limitations:

    Malthus: "The power of population is so superior to the power of the earth to produce subsistence for man, that premature death must in some shape or other visit the human race. The vices of mankind are active and able ministers of depopulation. They are the precursors in the great army of destruction, and often finish the dreadful work themselves. But should they fail in this war of extermination, sickly seasons, epidemics, pestilence, and plague advance in terrific array, and sweep off their thousands and tens of thousands. Should success be still incomplete, gigantic inevitable famine stalks in the rear, and with one mighty blow levels the population with the food of the world."

    — Malthus T.R. 1798. An Essay on the Principle of Population. Chapter VII, p 44[6]

    The population back then was just a tiny fraction of today's nearly 7 billion people. Fortunately, we have Malthus to show us that no matter how grim things appear to some, these idiotic theories are debunked year after year after years later.

    Welcome to the 21st century,

    Steve
     
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  7. GoogleMurrayBookchin

    GoogleMurrayBookchin Banned

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    God, do you have any reason to doubt that everything is going to be fine in spite of the overwhelming evidence other than "people thought the world would end before"?
     
  8. CourtJester

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    They had no clue that a well organized militia would be irrelevent in the modern world.
     
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    Stupid as in thinking that world would not change. They actually had a process for amending the Constitution which has resulted in women and blacks voting among other things they didn't foresee. My guess is they didn't forsee a massive military industrial complex or a standing army or any of the other factors that have made the second amendment irrelevent in the modern world.
     
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    First thing comes to mind is, they must have thought of advancements in armament every time they plugged a Indian at 50-70 yards while their arrows fell 30 yards short :)
     
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  11. Stevew

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    Your evidence is simply computer models. I have advanced statistics that showed me how easy it is to manipulate such models. It isn't a giant leap to see the real purpose behind these idiotic predictions.

    Steve
     
  12. spiritgide

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    I don't think they could see that we would wind up lowering our expectations of personal responsibility, of quality character and independence, and start listening to the people who blame society for everything they are personally too lazy to work to change. That kind of character was unacceptable in those days, nobody wanted to be known for that kind of weakness and immaturity.
     
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  13. CourtJester

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    Somehow I doubt you are an expert on the zeitgeist of that time..
     
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    I suggest if you have armed yourself. Fast, disarm.
     
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    The data has been accurately used to make predictions and is backed up by observation
     
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    Believe what you wish to believe. Until then, these predictions are phony especially in blaming humans. REAL science question theories, not votes on them. It is humans that are going to use science and technology to change the future, not inhibit humanity, and that's what's going on here with the climate change crap.

    Steve
     
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    What the hell is "rational" about finding more effective ways of maming and killing human beings?
     
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    The most dire terror/mass violence threats in the relatively near future will revolve around 3D printers and nanotech, not projectile based weapons or explosives. Take that to the bank.
     
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    But they know how relevant a well armed populace would be at anytime in man's history.
     
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    Not a damn thing...but it gives the gun lovers a woody
     
  21. Lesh

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    You can make a gun in a 3D printer that is about as good as you can make with a piece of copper pipe a nail and some rubber bands
     
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    Nor are you....

    But it should be obvious to the even the dullest knife in the drawer today, that the people who wrote the constitution lived in a time where little to nothing was done for you- that without a great deal of courage and personal maturity, nobody rose to positions of power. If you weren't a man, you wouldn't be there- nor would the community respect you, and that was vital at the time. Sadly, that is not true anymore.
     
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    When offensive capabilities will far exceed any defense, it will be the time to think about downgrading our weapons instead of making more powerful ones i guess. The risk is that everyone can do massive damage with relative safety and no training.
     
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    Well the dullest knife in the drawer has spoken.
     
  25. spiritgide

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    Then, you aren't in the drawer....?
    Or, your IQ is upper 99th percentile?
    Or, you are so sharp and productive that your tax bracket is higher or something? I would have estimated that my taxes exceed your income.
    Wow. But then, your handle is "Court Jester". Have it your way.
     

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