Trump signals withdrawal 'very soon' of US troops from Syria, surprising Pentagon and State Departme

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    Now you are turning yourself around. Do you know what ISIS is and was? Do you understand they were small bit players in the anti-Assad insurgency? Do you know who Biden, Gabbard, and the DIA are?
     
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    Lying presstitutes and neocons as hunters of non-existing Russian trolls?

    Putin has won, plain and simple

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    LOL....yeah, the ballot stuffers have won...no international voter watch....no fair & honest elections....no competition, no nothing. The little dictator won a rigged election....big deal....same thing happened in North Korea, Cuba and Iran!
     
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    As Vladimir Putin steals the Russian election, our leaders are ...
    https://www.theguardian.com/.../2018/.../vladimir-putin-russian-election-iran-zimbabwe
    Feb 8, 2018 - If such an obviously rigged poll were being held in Iran or Zimbabwe, there would be screams of outrage from the west, says the Guardian columnist Simon Tisdall.
    Russia: 'Vote rigging' videos may call Putin's win into question
    www.news.com.au/...russian-election...rigging/.../3c24c688203c76a385993e3445a2701...
    Mar 20, 2018 - A NUMBER of videos have emerged appearing to backup claims of “vote rigging” in the recent Russian election, showing people entering multiple voting slips and even using balloons to cover up CCTV when counting ballots.
    Footage of 'Russian election rigging' as Vladimir Putin wins biggest ...
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    https://www.thesun.co.uk/.../russian-elections-presidential-rigged-vla...
    Mar 19, 2018
    SHOCKING videos have emerged which allegedly show "ballot rigging" in Russiaas Vladimir Putin secured ...
     
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    Not surprising. Apparently Trump reported the real state of affairs. ....
    I'll start from a distance .... the project of the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate in 1975, academician Sakharov has developed a project (completely made calculations, trajectories of wave propagation, backward wave trajectory .... etc.) when hydrogen bombs explode near the coast of the enemy's country to create an artificial tsunami wave.... There is no radiation, no infection .... there are no living enemies ... The Soviet defense minister then told Sakharov: "... we are used to fighting the enemy, and not totally destroying him ...".

    Like that.

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    It's strange, but why is the recent presentation of torpedoes with a nuclear engine so similar to the T-15 project of Academician Sakharov? And everyone is sure that STATUS-6 carries only cobalt bombs? In principle, no difference - radiation contamination or wave tsunami. And that and another in general never a cake! Both can destroy already today not only any country, but also an unlimited number of countries. And even the whole planet.

    Recently, US military experts simulated the explosion of "Status 6" near a military base on the US coast. Result stunned them - 16.4 million dead, 39 million wounded. And this is only one submarine-drone. And we are not talking about the remaining new types of weapons in Russia.

    I remember how, after Putin's prezantation of new types of weapons, many of the idiots told me - it's a fake, in fact there is nothing ... etc. But the feeble-minded do not understand that the Russian president never says what he have not or can not do.
    And recently there was a real demonstration of new types of weapons. That be the idiot could not have had illusions. So to say, Putin "destroyed the illusions" of the mentally retarded.
    And Trump's advisers gave him competent advice. Including Syria.

    The launch of the missile that Putin was talking about. "Sarmat" (the new "Satan")

     
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    JakeStarkey said: ^^^ a wonderful condemnation of the alt right and far right.
    Do you often yammer when you don't know or understand what is being discussed. You ad hom because you can't address the OP. :roflol:
     
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    The US has no regime change plans -if that's what was meant up there- left on the table because it's already secured the east of Euphrates for good. That part of Syria has been functioning like US overseas territory for a while now. Normally, hundreds of Russian mercenary troops having been killed when challenging the US presence there tells a lot more than just that but fanatics like Putinists are on the payroll for spreading sht load of nonsense. That was actually the US saying it won't be going nowhere !

    So giving peace a chance is supporting China and the US on their efforts for convincing NK to do more. But that's not something Russia would do because they don't give a damn to peace. Even before and during the 2016 elections Russian authorities stated that it would have meant war had the president elect been Hillary...

    What did they know that the rest of the world didn't, one wonders... Let me see those paranoid asses explaining this now... lol...
     
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    Yes, let's keep things in perspective. If they wrote him notes to DO NOT CONGRATULATE, you know he receives instructions daily about what to say and what not to say.

    The powers that be will not allow the US military to withdraw from its illegal occupation of Syria. Israel prefers US soldiers die than their own in their efforts towards Greater Israel.
     
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    Correct - ISIS started as Al Qaeda in Iraq. They were dwindled down to insignificant during the surge. The IS in "ISIS" means "Islamic State".
    In the heart of every "Islamist" - someone who wants Sharia theocracy to be the law of the land/political system - is the desire to form an Islamic State.

    ISIS in Al Qaeda .. as you state .. played a minor role in the insurgency. ISIS as we know it did not exist until 2013 when various Islamist groups (Islamic Front, the foreign fighters and numerous others) merged.

    The people of Syria did not like Assad much but, they did not want the Salafi Islamists to take over. Syria was a secular nation - drinking and dancing in bars, women wearing skirts and proper bathing suits, no need for a mans permission to drive a car, freedom of religion (christian churches and Assad has Christian Generals in his army) and so on.

    Secularism is an anathema to the ideology of groups like the Taliban, Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, Islamic Front, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab and numerous others around the world. "ALL" of the above groups follow the same Saudi inspired extremist Islamist ideology. Saud has been exporting this ideology around the world for decades .. arming and supporting these groups. This is not some big "secret".

    The protest movement in Syria in 2011 wanted reforms and was "moderate" in nature. The extremists quickly took over the protest movement and were telling Christians to either join the movement or leave the country. Then they started persecuting and killing Christians.
    By the time armed insurgency broke out the extremists were in power.

    https://www.christianpost.com/news/...om-anti-government-protestors-in-syria-50104/

    Arming and supporting these extremists is what led to the modern incarnation of ISIS.

    What did you want to tell me about Biden .. the DIA and Tulsi ?
     
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    ISIS was created at the end of the Bush admin.

    Thank you for admitting that ISIS was a very small group among the insurgency orgs that received arms from the US.
     
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    You appear to have reading comprehension issues. As per my previous post - the modern incarnation of ISIS did not exist in the first years of the insurgency in Syria. It was arming and supporting various Islamist Jihadists groups that led to the creation of the modern incarnation of ISIS.
     
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    My post is accurate, and you are wrong concerning ISIS's beginning, several years before 2013 as suggested by you: flatly wrong.
     
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    Are you on drugs?
    We already discussed your tsunami bomb. You have no idea what you are talking about.
    As for Sarmat - a nuke that takes at least an hour to prepare is not much of a threat. It’s designed to keep you happy and keep you in your dreamed up world.
     
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    By the way, do you know why Sarmat was launched from a launch pad and not from silo?
    Russian leadership was afraid someone will f something up. I bet it was carefully fueled by people who work at space agency, not regular soldiers.
    So, that video is a disaster. To Russia, not NATO.
     
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    Sarmat may not be a disaster, but it is no game changer in the slightest.
     
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    LOL! Trump surrounds himself with war hawks by appointing them into positions across his government, then Trump pulls a peacenik action by declaring that we're pulling out of Syria soon. The war hawks must be fuming. :D
     
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    A few days ago you claimed that "Sarmat" does not exist. It's Putin's bluff, you said. Now you also write another nonsense.
    Fortunately for you, the US military experts know about the project of Academician Sakharov and about the real capabilities of the submarine-drone "Status 6".
    Therefore, the EU and the US show funny shows for their oligophrenics called "Send Russian diplomats," but in reality the State Department writes a letter to the Russian Foreign Ministry. "The United States will gladly accept new Russian diplomats in any number," Trump announces the withdrawal of a fascist coalition led by the United States from Syria .... and in the EU .... for example Germany gives a full package of permits for the construction of "Nord Stream 2" in the territorial waters of Germany. And even Britain refrains from arrests of Russian assets and creates exceptional conditions for the work of Russians on the London stock exchanges.
     
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    This would be very good if he does it.

    But Trump flip flop's like CRAZY.

    This means nothing until the last American soldier has left Syria.
     
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    I didn’t deny existence of Sarmat, I denied the possibility that Russia has a missile that uses nuclear propulsion, mainly because you can’t even test it without contaminating huge areas. As for your tsunami bomb claims - you didn’t travel much in your life, did you? You have no idea what quantity of water you need to overwhelm all countries on North Atlantic with a giant tsunami. I think the only thing that is capable of that is a meteor the size of the one killing off the dinosaurs directly hitting a fault line in the middle of Atlantic. Do you realize how deep the earth crust is, even at fault lines, and how much water you need to misplace to cover even New York that sits on like a few feet over the sea level?
    The only realistic and real weapon Putin presented was Sarmat, and even that one wasn’t really new and with a missile that takes a long time to prepare you can’t really do much in real world scenario.
    All you show is that you have no idea what you are talking about.
     
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    Don't blame me for your reading comprehension issues. I said "the modern incarnation of ISIS" .. which was formed from various Islamist extremist groups that existed prior to 2013 merged to create an Islamic State. IS - ISIL - ISIS.

    You are so bereft of material and beaten down that you can't manage to use the quote function ... lame o rama.
     
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    I think Trump was just looking for money to plug his border, once that problem is sorted he'll forget all about Syria again
     
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    Trump, again, is negotiating in public, this time with Saudi Arabia. The Saudis had promised to contribute $3 billion to help in Syria but have not yet done so. This is meant to encourage them to pay up and it's all in The Art Of The Deal.

    When you see Leftists getting excited about an issue you know they're likely on the wrong track..
     
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    You know Fred, I'm all for Saudi Arabia contributing but then you mentioned Art of the idiot and leftist then I'm just

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    Art of the idiot? Perhaps you misunderstood my post.

    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1032.Trump
     
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