Armed man in a Florida restaurant yelled "get out of my country ."

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  1. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    The gimp is a racist and acts violent against minorities, and is potentially a terrorist. And so he should be treated like that. And he should realize people have been killed for waving around a weapon. No doubt you would applaud the police if they gunned down a black dude acting in the same way... as a thug.
     
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  2. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I stand corrected, you're correct. I went back and reread the CBS News story and they did say stun gun.

    CBS News like most of todays wannabe journalist write grade school level news stories.

    I noticed CBS News said Smith was "holding a knife" while other news sources said Smith had a knife on him. First thing I think of is a sheath knife in a sheath worn on a belt.

    Each state being different not knowing what Florida's laws are and definition of assault is, in the hermit state of California holding a gun or knife in a non threatening manner isn't assault until you point that gun or knife at someone.

    Notice some of the four different news sources took words that were said that were taken out of context using quotation marks.

    Arab exchange students refereed to as men. How old were the victims ? If they were white millennial snowflakes would they have been referred to as children ?

    News4Jax goes further that sends up a red flag, is this another "nothing burger" that is being exploited and politicized by the Muslim Brotherhood ? Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) are involved, the other news sources don't even mention CAIR.

    We all remember another "nothing burger" when a Hispanic male head was being beaten into a concrete walkway and shot a black gang banging thug and the radical left politicized the shooting and demanded that the Hispanic male be lynched. -> http://firstmonday.org/article/view/4947/3821#author

    What ever happened with the five "W's" being answered in the first paragraph of a news story ?
     
  3. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I always carry my Ka-Bar in a sheath that's attached to my belt.

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  4. Texan

    Texan Well-Known Member

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    Why would Fox do that? The law is the law and that would be liable/slander.
     
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    webrockk Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    nope. fullest extent of the law. war is hell, and no one forced his kid to sign his name on the dotted line.

    the only people I'll give a pass are the dads (and moms) who plot and facilitate their child's murderer's brutal demise...mostly because that's exactly what I'd do, without a mote of compunction.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Excellent point. Equal justice under the law.
     
  7. jay runner

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    It's good that one person stands their ground and kills a weapon wielder, and it's good that the next person stands their ground and kills a weapon wielder. Next person, too.
     
  8. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm not defending anyone, just asking questions and not passing judgement.

    I see some have already convicted Mr. Smith before his day in court being judged by his peers.

    If Mr. Smith son was killed in Afghanistan by Islamist radicals that has to be considered.

    Some years ago (20 years ago) there was this military forum that veterans participated in. There were strict PC rules but one could use derogatory terms of a former enemy in historical context without being infracted .

    There was this old WW ll vet who was a survivor if the "Bataan Death March" who was never able to decompressed from his experiences and 60 years later had a big chip on his shoulder and hated all Japanese. He would go beyond using derogatory words referring to the Japanese out of historical context and would use every derogatory name there was when referring not to Jap soldiers during WW ll but todays Japanese.

    The owner of the forum was going to ban this survivor of the Bataan Death March but veterans, mostly Korean War and Vietnam War vets came to his defense.

    My mother's brother was killed in New Guinea during WW ll. Took my mother almost 15 years before she fully decompressed and no longer hated the Japanese people.

    My father who was a Marine and served in both the Southwestern Pacific and Central Pacific during WW ll hatred of the Japanese ended with in ten years after the war.

    Took me around 12 years to decompress.

    A friend of mine who did a tour of duty in the Nam was still hating all Vietnamese people 15 years after his tour of duty that I had to tell him he was living in the wrong county (Orange County) with the largest Vietnamese population outside of Vietnam. His response was that the OC was his county not the Vietnamese.

    What about all of those liberals who didn't serve and were the "useful idiots" of the Kremlin during the Vietnam War ?

     
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  9. Matt84

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    Just because you can't read is no one's problem but yours. Quit trolling and go away.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm old schooled and remember when America before journalism died in America.

    Journalism is dead in America today.

    Back during the good old days when America was still great, before fake news, before the internet where everyone thinks they are a blogger and a journalist you had real journalist in America who knew how to write a real news story using journalism 101.

    The lead paragraph of every news story should answer the "Five W's" who, what, when why and where.

    Pick up todays morning NYT or the WaPo and read the first few pages. Now run down to your local public library and ask the librarian for a NYT or WaPo published forty years ago and read it. You'll see real journalism.

     
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  12. Matt84

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    Just because "stun gun" and "gun" look the same to you doesn't mean they are to everyone else.
     
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    Maybe true, maybe another made up story.

    His real crime in the eyes of the "progressives" is not the threat (assuming he actually threatened anyone), it was not kowtowing to the open borders mantra of the Left. How dare he think this is his country, or show any sense of national identity.
     
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    We got laws against hate crimes. And this white thug assaulted people due to their religious and ethnic background. And indeed, how dare he think the country belongs to some ethnic and religious group. Dude is a fascist. We used to kill them with great pride.
     
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  16. PARTIZAN1

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    There were multiple networks reporting this story so why do you think that it may not be true?
    What in this story says anything about open borders?
    Who is stopping him from thinking that this is his country? Put in another what in this story says that anyone did not let him think this was his country? Same question about national identity, what in thus story is restricting his right to have a sense of national identity?
     
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    Off topic nonsense. Just because they don't have the same skintone don't mean they are not Americans. It's not his country. It's our country.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Why does Fox or Fox fans here do anything that is outright wrong and stupid!
     
  19. Texan

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    They didn't do what you suggested and they didn't do anything wrong or stupid concerning this story. Was it honest and intelligent to imply otherwise?
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    I was talking about their past behavior as a predictor of the future.
     
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    You didn’t predict anything here.
     
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    Oh so to right wingers expecting to be able to sit in a restaurant for a meal without some ignorant piece of excrement threatening you is kowtowing to the open borders crowd? What a ****ing insanely stupid post. You should be ashamed of yourself.
     
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    See, I told you it was a hate crime from the start. Perhaps you might take a moment sometime in the future when you see what is a prejudiced attack and remember those people work themselves up over a whole group. That is a behavior that is common among people of all types.
     
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    I was hoping against logic and my better judgement and experiences that this was a case of an aggrieved dad. Being a veteran and I have lost a son but not under the circumstances this liar claimed I felt empathy for him.

    Hey I can admit it if I am wrong.

    PS edit add. It was a crime motivated by hate and/ or ignorance but I am not in favor of separate classes of hate crimes.
     
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  25. superbadbrutha

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    Unbelievable, so what would you have had to say had one of these young men pulled out a gun and dropped him where he stood.
     

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