SHOCK!!! Petro Poroshenko personally gave the order to aim at the plane flying MH 17!!!

no, Putin will be tried then hanged as a murderer

 

What should make any person with an ounce of brains suspicious, is how Obama and Kerry immediately blamed Russia, when as lawyers they know they should never compromise an investigation. This immediately discredits them not only in this, but in everything they say. So much for Kerry's 'trust me'.

There were two American satellites above the plane, and none of the photos were made public. What was told to the award winning investigative reporter Robert Parry by an Intelligence agent, is that the men manning the Buk are wearing Ukrainian uniforms.

 

WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Funny how you have a completely different conspiracy theory from the last person. Do you guys compare notes, or do you just throw a hundred “alternative” stories out there in the hopes that one sticks? We have intercepted communications, we have the Dutch report. But I suppose it doesn’t matter, because Russia is never at fault.

If you want say that the Euromaidan protestors are all Poles, then fine. I can say the Poroshenko protestors are Russians. No evidence for either, but it’s an easy claim to make.

 

Those are your wet dreams.

 

I didn't say that all the protesters were Poles, but according to the announcer I was listening to on FOX news, there were Poles among them, so they weren't all Ukrainians. I guess they needed the money. Also the Ukrainians were from the Western area, predominantly Galitia. There were none from the more populated South and East of the country. It was a coup.

As for the Airliner, where are the American satellite photos, or are we to trust 'Kerry' as he asked? Russia did show it's satellite image with a jet next to the airliner, and the image was explained in full by the General. Where are the American ones - oh that's right, they are confidential and can't be shown. Okay Kerry, we trust you.

 

I was watching FOXnews during the Maidan and the announcer had a map showing the areas the protesters were coming from. He wanted to show how the protesters were coming from all over Ukraine, but he couldn't. All he could show on the map other than from the Western areas, were some parts of central Ukraine. When someone interviewed the protesters, he found out that some came from Poland.

In the meantime I was reading RT, and began seeing videos of the police being firebombed and attacked by the Right Sector, while at the same time the news networks were telling the public that the protests were peaceful. The lies appalled me. I never watched the MSM again.

 

You mean hanged for not bowing to Washington.

Some words of wisdom from Vladimir Putin:

“I believe that either Russia will be sovereign, or there will be no Russia at all. And, of course, the Russian people will always opt for the first. I think the Chinese people will too. We have no other option,”

 

No dreams....moskalis seem to have a habit of killing off their own!)

 

Russians have a habit of killing traitors.

 

Use what language you will, you can never say anything but what you are.

 

Lol, yeah, ww2 showed that, half of their dead were shot by NKVD! The other half captured by the Krauts!))

 

The garbage is in your head.

 

This is a fairy tale for idiots who do not know the science of history.

 

Yep....and I'm sure you're a credible authority on the science of history,LOL.

 

LOLOLOL What a beautiful demonstration of the ignorance people will glom onto if it fits what they soooo desperately want to believe. An entrance hole on one side and an exit hole on the other doesn't indicate the plane was shot from both sides. AND they didn't find any bullet holes in the wreckage.

 

But the photos that I saw had bullet holes, and obviously the German pilots saw them as such as well.

 

What is this? This is the correct section of the forum and the opinion is sourced. The only thing that should be dumped is your response. Attack with an opinion not mentioning those that enforce the rules. Doing so is against the forum guidelines.

Newbees are out of control around here.

As to the OP I find it interesting. The gentleman in the interview has alot of stature and those are some bold statements. Anonymous sources are always a concern for me but if one of his sources defected? The Ukraine leadership and our media here in the US would just say Russia paid him off haha so no value there.

We have been ramping up our support of the Ukraine lately and I worry that for geopolitical reasons which is all the US cares about.. We might be enabling a tyrant. The man is a thug.

 

And what is this

Nice to read a random, insane, unsupported, ridiculous, leftist opinion that has over what 50,000 posts? with my morning coffee in the morning thank you. Leftists everywhere need to stop drinking your politicians and medias kool-aid and realize that Putin nor Russia are any kind of boogeyman

 

Zakhar Prilepin, a Russian writer fighting in the Donbas, shared his thoughts on what is behind the statements about the downed Boeing in the sky over the Donbass.

In his opinion, behind the message of the Netherlands that Ukraine can be involved as accused in the case of the crash of flight MN-17 and the statement of Malaysia that they do not believe in the guilt of Russia hides much. He writes that Washington pressed on these countries to send a signal to Kiev: we can hang on you the blame in the case of the downed Boeing. One condition-to begin the offensive on the eve of the 2018 world Cup, held in Russia, with the aim of provocations and disruption of matches.

"The United States is blackmailing Ukraine. They say: either you go on the offensive, or you end - we tell the truth about who shot down a passenger plane.”
This is confirmed by the desire of Volker, the us special representative, to completely clean up Donbass.

Poroshenko is, of course, do not like it, because he understands that after that he will have to run away from Ukraine. Russia will not accept it, and the rest of the countries are in question.

This is a very bad scenario for people living in the DPR and the LPR, because it is really clear how the Ukrainian territory is preparing for the offensive. Very soon we will witness this denouement.
https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5ac5...ajem-kto-sbil-boing--5b160739e44a94961ef36c85

 

Ukraine might have gotten the message from Vladimir Putin that if they attack, Ukraine will cease to exist. Putin has been holding back the Donbass militaries for too long, and he said he will not allow genocide in the Donbass - in other words, Russia will help. Zacharcheno did promise the people in other parts of the Donbas, that he would free them as well.

Putin said in an interview that Ukraine should give the Donbass certain priviledges so they will remain in Ukraine. He said it is what he did with Chechnya and the other Republics, and he can't understand why they haven't done that? But not just for the Russian speaking areas, but also for the Hungarian, Polish and Romanian areas as well.

As for Donbas, too many civilians have died, and yet Poroshenko keeps attacking no matter how many of his men die in the return fire. Those that should be killed in the return fire, are the Nato officers that are training and supporting them.

This is so similar to Syria. There were men from Fr., UK and US embedded with terrorists in Aleppo and more recently in Ghouta - yet the terrorists were sending missiles to kill Syrian civilians. In other words they were accomplices to the crimes.

 

Neither you nor any government can prove a BUK was launched.

The damage shown by the early photos and videos, and statements made by peasants in the field nearby, and the Russian radar record, all suggest it was shot down by fighters. The early tweet from the Spanish ATC controller named Carlos also said that.

Carlos and his tweet were gone in short time, and the BBC piece showing the descending spiraling airliner were all quickly removed.

It wasn't a BUK, it was aircraft.

 

Poroshenko is preparing a large-scale provocation with chemical weapons to disrupt the world Cup in Russia.
I have information that Ukraine is
I have information that Ukraine is preparing a large-scale provocation using chemical weapons.
According to one of the locals, cylinders with poisonous gases and containers with poisonous substances were brought to the technological premises of the plant in Slavyansk. This information was confirmed by an employee of a large transport company: dangerous goods were really delivered to the warehouse under the careful protection of the special services of Ukraine.
A resident of Slavyansk found cylinders with chlorine on stickers, there were 5 vans. This warehouse is guarded by military weapons 24 hours a day.
Apparently, the SBU is preparing a provocation against the militia – as if they are going to use chemical weapons to injure civilians. Naturally, this story will be inflated by the media, and then Europe and America will intervene, as in Syria after a false chemical attack in Guta.
It is possible that chemical weapons will be used by Ukraine against its own soldiers and civilians. And blame in the end the militia and Russia immediately. After that, foreign journalists will be invited, they will be shown the corpses and will arrange a scandal around the world with the requirement to bomb the militia by NATO forces.

 

Why does this forum attact so many Russian trolls?

 

Ukrainian officers also confirmed this information. They do not want Ukrainian soldiers and civilians to die.