Western Hypocrisy & Hubris

It is not a red herring it's the philosophical principles of the Declaration of Independence. I also find it humorous that you don't think I have already served, but yes I have no problem with taking up the rifle to fight for liberty once more if needed, would you hide as so many do or fight for liberty?

The NK regime has no right to exist. That doesn't mean I'm calling for us to invade tomorrow, it does mean I have no respect for it's government and am pushing for it's utter destruction and the liberation of it's people in any way. Tyrants have no moral right to exist anywhere on the planet, and we should always be in the business of destroying them when it is possible, whether that's threw action, covert or otherwise, or from simple moral support.

It is rather sad, that you have no problem with people living in oppression so long as you yourself are fine. Selfish honestly, and against the ideals of revolution that founded the republic.

 

Save me the faux outrage. The US have its hands dirty setting up many a dictatorships that oppressed their own people then only rid those dictatorships when their usefulness is done. As far as fighting, I will only fight to defend this country from invasion. You and yours feel free to participate in useless adventures.

 

Oh certainly, I have no problem supporting a puppet if the only other option is a Communist regime for example, under the simple understanding that it is only a short term solution.

But those days are done, the USSR is dead, nuclear war averted, and the larger threat to the homeland destroyed.

It's rather sad you have no interest in defending liberty, and only live for your own selfish desires. It's good to remember that not everyone would have fought with the Patriot side during the revolution so long as they were fat and happy themselves.

 

Whatever our government involved in it screw it up....Royally. The greatest example in modern time is Vietnam. We left an ally defenseless and their people got punished. Don't spout to me about my "selfish desires" when our government have their own.

 

We should of persecuted the war further, and at a more powerful level, but the Boomers had other ideals, and desiring nothing more then goodies at home such as "free college, medicare for all, and free housing" left so that those who allied by us were slaughtered by a group of evil communist. The fact that most people consider the fall of Saigon as a good thing says all you need to know about the left wingers from that generation.

I certainly hope you weren't one of the jackasses who attacked returning service men, as many hippie pukes did. The problem with the Vietnam war, was the generation that betrayed their classmates that fought in it.

The only good thing about it, is it proved the weakness of conscription. An all volunteer army means you don't have some kid who refuses to take a situation seriously guarding your six.

Of course I also always find it ironic when people pretend that Vietnam was happy as could be after we left, never talking about the Chinese Communist who moved in to fight the next war, and then how the nation lost further once the USSR feel. Of course today what good has come from Vietnam largely exist as they attempt to emulate the US more. Which is true of all nations of course, over time tyranny dies because people yearn to be free. Doesn't change though how many more lives were destroyed because we left without getting the job done.

 

All nations operate in their own best interests. The USA is not at all unique, throughout all of human history nations and empires and kingdoms and dynasties have applied their influence to serve their best interests.

It is utterly naïve to treat all people and all nations as equals. Some are clearly dangerous and should not have nuclear - or chemical or biological - weapons.

This isn't Star Trek fantasy land in which everyone just wants to be nice to each other.

 

We don't murder and torture our citizenry?

You're living in a dream world. Cops shoot, taze, harass and assault all manner of innocent citizens pretty much daily. We have the highest per capita rate of imprisonment in the world, and most are in for petty drug offenses.

 

Sorry the West has hurt your feelings but this is reality. Grab a straw and suck it up.

 

We don’t murder our citizens en masse and most “harassed” by cops are NOT innocent. And trying to compare what happens here to NK or Iran is laughable.

And you know how you don’t end up jail on a drug offense? Don’t do drugs? Easy as pie. Quite a simple thing to do.

 

Yes, you're living in a dream world.