Do you think it odd that your God never acknowledges you? Is that rude?

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  1. Greatest I am

    Greatest I am Well-Known Member

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    Do you think it odd that your God never acknowledges you? Is that rude?

    We all have a God. I say that in the broader sense of the word, as God is an ideal you have created for yourself. From atheism to fundamental, you will, in that sense, have a God/Ideal, be God your God natural or supernatural.

    God/ideals can only be exhibited or expressed through a person.

    We all give plenty to our Gods and their human mouth pieces, --- mostly false prophets if the bible speaks the truth, --- yet God never acknowledges what you do for him or her.

    I, as a Gnostic Christian clergy, self-appointed (as is fit), has been acknowledged and do not include myself in the “you” of the opening question.

    Why does God not acknowledge all but the few?

    Why are you, of the supernatural God type, a cash cow and devoted slave to what amounts to a deadbeat parent and absentee God and his less than moral religion thanks to lying clergy?

    You love God but the lack of acknowledgement from God shows that God does not love you back. That means that it is not a true love. This is in accordance to the standard that Jesus set. It is a shame that the Jesus followers, Christians and Muslims, will not do as he bids them do, as was the Jewish tradition of archetypal prophets, and elect a new God that might return your love.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YB4J-keW3A

    Can you forgive a rude God?

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Actually..... I have gotten some pretty astonishing answers to prayer during my 59 years.......
    I got really, really, really disappointed and angry with Messiah Yeshua - Jesus back in 1990 after my dad died.......
    and I found out that the Soul Sleep theory was terribly in error..........

    Although my anger was really guilt over my own having been non-Proselytizing.....
    I can honestly say that all of the big questions that I posed in prayer.......
    have been answered.... mostly through near death experience accounts.....
    but also from actions by some amazing people in my life.

    My time of seriously questioning lasted from 1990 - 2000... During that time I did get many answers..... but after 2000 my life really became blessed beyond my wildest expectations!

    Could the Christian gospel be much worse news?


     
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    Was it a male or female voice, and were any of the answers solutions to the many who starve to death daily because God answered your prayers instead of looking after more important prayers?

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    DL
     
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    Actually......the two times I heard direct answers were a male voice..... and yes..... regarding world hunger and the Armageddon like conditions that so many live in daily....... that is one of the biggest questions that I had asked about and did receive some answers to.

    It is theoretically possible to address the USA petro-dollar crisis.....
    the threat of rising ocean levels....
    world hunger and unemployment.... simultaneously!

    All that humans do accomplish begin as ideas and theories!

    Should Sorek 2 be in Australia or California?
     
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    Forgive a god who doesn't acknowledge us? How should God acknowledge us? By giving us high-fives, a gold star, buying us a new house, a new car? Or, should God acknowledge us by being the air we breath, the love we feel, the warmth of the sun, the photosynthesis of plants we eat and enjoy, or by being the designer of DNA replication? Why do you suggest we should be rewarded for being good little preachers and priests, or good little church goers. We were to give thanks unto the Lord, not ask for kudos from the Lord when we are alive at the Lord's choosing. I believe we were meant to love the world as God so loved the world; and in by so doing we are humbly giving thanks, not seeking to be rewarded. Loving God, and what God created, is our reward.
     
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    Given all of the alleged miracles performed in the past it would seem reasonable that there would be an occasional VERIFIABLE communication from God if God exists. Something like a mass communication to multiple people would be an example of a verifiable communication - or perhaps information regarding technology that is unknown to modern science. Even a modern miracle of some kind.
     
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    I never felt unacknowledged. Though, in truth, I've never had an experience where I was certain God told me something.

    The way I see it, humanity's progression to its full potential would be hindered by the 'ever watchful, often interfering Law-giver' God of the Old Testament, and a new arrangement had to be made. When God became Jesus and gained the perspective of mortality and limitation, He decided that we would only be stifled by his laws and guidance, and that we must finish the next part of our 'path' on our own. I believe that Free Will is a fundamentally important part of our nature, and our future success depends on our autonomy from God. So, no, I don't think it odd that God doesn't 'acknowledge' me.
    It makes me feel empowered to find my own path.
     
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    Do you recall the story about Moses crossing the Red Sea with the Israelites and how they ate manna from heaven for 40 years? The people who were supposedly there didn't believe it either.

    Miracles are fiction.
     
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    I find it shocking that you believe the creator of all that is seen and unseen, would want to talk to you, or at the very lest everyone else.

    Mankind as we understand it has existed for a few thousand years, mere milliseconds in the grand scheme of creation. Especially for a being that is outside of time itself, and has been around before the big bang happened.
     
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    Why do you assert that with such certainty? I don't. [​IMG]
     
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    You sound like you are waiting for a communication from extraterrestrials not God. God gave us everything we need to exist, and you want God to send us a Hallmark greeting card with some new scientific info in it?
    God is omnipresent--everywhere and in every thing. According to the Gospel of Thomas, saying 77, Jesus said something to the effect of 'cut a piece of wood and there I shall be'; and 'lift a stone there too shall I be'. What could that possibly mean? I take it to mean that God is within and without everything. God resonates with everything in the universe.
    I would like someone to explain the bible verses about 'In the beginning was the word (sound), and the word was with God, and the word was God'.
    I think those very first verses in the bible, hold the key to creation itself; and if we could figure out how to manipulate sound and sound waves we would be privy to sciences we have barely begun to explore, sciences like anti-gravity, and using sound waves to break up tumor cells.
    I think the references to sound found in the Bible 'work' as a mass communication of scientific information. How much more do you need?
     
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    Is it God who is not looking after the starving masses or is it mankind? Is it God who demands we spend close to a trillion dollars/year on our military? Is it God who suggests we spend all of our R&D money to create ever more destructive military machines? To blame God because we have not evolved due to our own miserable workings is kind of blasphemous.
     
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    You were given common knowledge but no solution to moving those solutions forward.

    Strange that the solution in scriptures was not given to you. That being that we need to elect a new God which is the promise of the second coming.

    Your God is not wise as compared to the ancient's God.

    Not surprising as literal reading of myths will retard a mind instead of moving it forward.

    Regards
    DL
     
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    Is acknowledgement to a gift giver a reward or just good manners? More good manners I think with a touch of reward/recognition.

    Your God is rude and you do not care because as with most, you let your tribal association corrupt your moral sense and that is why you can adore and idol worship a genocidal son murderer.

    Regards
    Laudable, except that scriptures say that God will torture and kill the vast majority in hell because we are exactly what your God created us to be.

    You see love where there is hate and call evil good, which again shows corrupted morals.

    Regards
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    No argument buddy.

    Strange how miracles ended the moment people could record events to prove they are/were real.

    Sounds rather hypocritical that but not to those who believe their perpetually lying clergy.

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    I think I asked you elsewhere but have yet to get the answer.

    Do you see Jesus as your savior, or does the path you seek prevent you from taking advantage of the punishment of the innocent in your stead?

    Is your path based on the supernatural or the natural?

    Regards
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    What can I say when the more intelligent ancients, before the foul literal reading of myths reared it's ugly head, recognized that nothing could be known of the supernatural that you somehow know something about. Delusion my friend. Come back to reality.

    https://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2



    http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html

    Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

    Please listen as to what is said about literal reading.

    "Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

    Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

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    Because it is a truth till refuted and I do not think it can be unless someone has actual proof or even evidence of contact.

    Why would you believe the other way without anything to base it on?

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    If you believe that then you conveniently wear blinders.

    Tell us, if you are correct, if the images you see for what these women carried had all they needed to exist.

    DL

    If you do not recant, you show how your beliefs have corrupted your moral sense.

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    DL
     
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    Is it God who tells the various religion to spend lavishly on themselves like drunken sailors while the poor starve to death?

    https://cosmosmagazine.com/social-sciences/ditch-religion-to-boost-prosperity-study-finds

    Regards
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    I don't understand (most of) the question. Can you rephrase?
     
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    Your last was answered elsewhere just prior to this reply. You just use Jesus differently and I see that your belief in the supernatural has fouled your logic and reason.

    We can follow up at the other location as it is clearer than here.

    Let me check what your beliefs have done to your moral sense here.

    You believe Jesus/Yahweh to be real. God having his son murdered, or his own suicide you have decided to use differently that the usual Christian. Autonomy instead of salvation.

    Yahweh is a genocidal child torturing and killing God.
    Why do you even respect such a God enough to take his gift of autonomy to you?
    Would you accept gifts from Satan?

    Regards
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    The modern day clergy make all sorts of claims about miracles, e.g., this person recovered from cancer, that person recovered from a car crash, and what not -- AND IT IS A MIRACLE. I have been told MIRACLES occur in our life every day. Yet what does not happen is this.

    Elijah replied to the captain of fifty, "If I am a man of God, let fire come down from heaven and consume you and your fifty." Then fire came down from heaven and consumed him and his fifty.
     
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    Look jesus-freak - you sin if you want to, but I reiterate that I effing don't!!!! How dare you presume otherwise!
     
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    The clergy are perpetual liars and always slink away the moment you ask them what God has against amputees as he never gives them any miraculous new limbs.

    Regards
    DL
     

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