Prosecutors tell jury that Manafort owns a $15,000 ostrich jacket

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  1. Phantomknight09

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    The eluded,openly biased and partisan posters will have you think what manafort did and what awan did are miles apart.
     
  2. Gatewood

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    Yes, well obviously. But you seem to have forgotten the most important leftist rule of all: It is NEVER wrong when a leftist does it. It's as basic and true for the Left as it gets.
     
  3. Bluesguy

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    Then why is the special prosecutor wasting his valuable time on prosecuting an alleged white collar crime from 10 FRIGGIN years ago instead of wrapping up the Russian collusion charade? The regular US Attorney's can prosecute this AND I heard today on the news the in fact the FBI looked at this years ago and decided it was not worth prosecuting the evidence was so lacking and the DOJ official who made that decision was ROSENSTEIN. Mueller desperately needed SOMETHING to prosecute so he dug up this laid to rest issue. Do you think it proper to bring up something the FBI and DOJ had already decided NOT to prosecute just so he could get a warrant to search his house for anything he could find to try and connect Trump to Russia. Isn't that false pretense?
     
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    EVERYONE knows this is 100% about Trump. Claiming otherwise is just foolish.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    Well let's get a special prosecutor to answer those questions, what do ya think? How about a no knock warrant on her house in the middle of the night and her offices and then the SP can go through everything to make there are no crimes there.
     
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    Was that a crime?
     
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    Indeed. This has been a massive waste of time and resources and all because Mueller politically allied himself with leftists in order to 'get' Trump via any means possible and then he failed and HAD to come up with something to show for all that time and money and for keeping the nation upset for month after month after month.
     
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    Oh good grief.
    Years and years of phony gop investigations of Bill and Hillary both have failed to find any proof of criminal activity.

    OTOH, there's years and years of proof of trump's crimes AND plenty of evidence against all of his lackeys.

    But hey, it's fun the way she owns trump and the trumpkins.
     
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    Unfortunately the Mueller appointment letter is extremely broad and poorly drafted. This could be typical government incompetence or purposeful. It could also be in conformance with precedent of other appointments in the past, such as the one that exposed Clinton/Lewinsky, in an effort to appear impartial in scope (not interested enough to research it). Whatever it is, it shows the stark contrast between the practice of law in the Complex, where they know they are above the law, and the private sector, where such shoddy drafting would be condemned as gross incompetence. Of note also is the ridiculously overbroad jurisdiction in the statute itself, cited in the letter, also an example of bad drafting.

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...nt-Robert-Mueller-Special-Counsel-Russia.html

    Government is simply not worth what we pay for it.
     
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    From the Ukrainians..Is what I have heard so far, how about you?
     
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    Collusion is not illegal as Rudy, Sean and the whole Trump media has been trumpeting since they found out that Trump knew and has been lying all along. But, conspiracy to act in concert with a foreign power to rig an election and obstruction are illegal. Manafort's trial has nothing to do with Trump's deal. But it should be interesting to see what happens. This is exciting stuff. I can hardly wait to see what comes out next. Taxpayer money is spent everyday to bust guys who cheated on millions in taxes and laundered money. Nothing unusual about this except that the crook happened to be Trump's campaign manager and has many ties to Russian mobsters and government officials. Seems like a worthwhile cause.
     
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    Is it the Deep State at work again? Hillary and Uranium...Big breaking news!!! Thanks guys. Maybe she hid it in that pizza parlor and is sneaking it out in the baby's diapers. I think you got her this time. Great work fellows. This is a blockbuster!
     
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    ...Obama paid for it with straight cash?? Or credit? And what do you mean only 8 years? That's a long freaken time..How long do you think it takes playing the stock market with 400k annually to get rich?? Guess you have been doing it wrong.

    The dude on trial...whom actually did all cash deals...Different story.
     
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    You mean like Hillary Clinton conspired with Barack Obama and Fusion GPS and Steele and Russia? That sort of conspiracy to subvert the course of a presidential election by framing Trump? Sweet! So when do their trials begin? I understand that Mueller has got countless indictment blanks just ready for names to be penciled in and surely by now he is getting tired of indicting ham sandwiches and petty criminals. Hillary is many things but a PETTY criminal she is not.
     
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    What does his trial have to do with the election and Russian collusion about it?
     
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    Baloney but we are now talking her collusion with foriegners. Why is it less important to investigate her collusion and how do we know there was no crime unless we have a SP investigate and go through all her records and those of her staff?

    What crimes by Trump are being investigated?
     
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    The point that you are missing or ignoring is that the founding fathers recognized that changes may need to be made in the future so yes they established a path. No they did that path easy. The founding fathers had changes almost immediately called the Bil of Rights. Those were amendments or changes right? You say that the founders did not define how a Constitutional Convention is to work in detail, true! The founders did not set detail rules in the Constitution how the Senate was to work. They did invent the nuclear option or forbid it.

    Treating the Constitution as a living document does not mean that you change it on a whim or that because you are bored one day. Changes need to be rare and judiciously defined and created.
    If the founders did not believe that the Constitution was living theybwould not have created the path for amendments in fact they would have forbade them.

    The human body is a living entity, right! Many believe that it was created by God as a foundation exemplifying humanity. Do we make changes with surgery such as remove cancers or clear arteries if they are blocked! Yes we do ! Still the human body is living but amended. Would any reasonable person say do not cut out cancer or clear arteries because God made or designed the human body that way as a foundation?

    My definition and application of the living Constitution does not mean unlimited changes. Yes changes to the Constitution need to be rare, well vetted, well debated, and judiciously accomplished before they are made just as the original document was.
     
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    I am answering the question about the amount of money. The crimes are discussed in other posts.
     
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    No knock warrants were not invented by Rosenstein or Mueller.
     
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    Wait... who is the other leftist? Cubed? Because he didn’t mention race at all, and you didn’t respond to his post.

    I think I missed the second leftist you are referring to; maybe you can point me in the right direction.
     
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    Yes Hillary...lol
     
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    Was there some point there?
     
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    I'lltame that as your admittance there was no crime there.
     
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