England Knife, Gun, Rape Attacks and Homicide Continue Rapid Rise

Such problems can be traced back, mind you, to Thatcher's contracting out...

Compared to the tax dodge and evasion from the rich? Small fry.

As a country boy I remember the start of the refocus on economic migrant labour. Farmers deliberately switched from local women (and student labour during harvesting). Eastern European labour was more profitable. They could reduce piecework rates, while also clawing back wages by supplying accommodation.

You're talking about the consequences of privatisation. Contracting out knackered the cleaning services. Wages plummeted, quality control floored.

Without privatisation you have decision making based on long term efficiency criteria, rather than short term rent seeking behaviour.

You miss the point. Long term planning isn't possible with privatisation. The framework is fragmented and contracting is based around profiteering criteria.

Child services were automatically focused on preventative care. Seeing a psychologist, for example, was straightforward. Now staff, often employed by private sector company imposing ludicrous target, are focused on finding means to deny healthcare.

 

of course and.... so what....we are where we are and harking back to Thacher or Blair or whoever is pointless.
The public finances are FUBA and whining about Thatcher is a waste of time the issue is what to do in the future and how to fix the whole shambolic system...not just the NHS. Its the whole political crud fest that needs looking at...whatever stripes you have.

Oh please....the rich....stash the soundbites for a moment and think about it.
Most people in the UK are on PAYE. The lost revenue from tossers that hide their wealth..the Rich...as you call them is miniscule compared to the amount of tax taken from salaries, VAT, fuel tax etc etc etc.
If I was to stop paying tax I could employ over five people on minimum adult living wage and give them 4 weeks paid holiday! How much friggin tax am I supposed to pay!!!
Am I rich...No because the taxman has the lions share of it and pisses it up the wall on welfare and spongers.
How much tax can the middle classes pay!!
How much tax do you pay!
Define rich

You miss the point, long term planning isn't possible when doors are flung open and we get flooded with millions of people all wanting to consume services that have not been catered for because they could not be planned for. Planning is done by governement departments and budgets set aside and when you have a weekly change in government policy how can you properly plan and fund what would have been the demographic trends prior to the myriad changes to government policy....some tosser thinks its a great idea for a suden influx of low paid scaffers all wanting housing, cars, food, medical services etc. Great lets bollox up everything and on top of the fact that we have enforced austerity to pay for as well.
Demographic planning is not something that changes on a day by day basis.
Have you driven in the south east lately....its like sitting on a kangaroo bumping over the roads that haven't been de-potholed for years!

Yeah because governments are really good at flexibility...???
Government planning brought you the millenium dome the largest waste of tax payers money ever....and that was planned!!!???
Can you imagine Disney coming up with that farcical pile of crud...and making a thumping great loss....and selling it off for a song??

 

What targets are you thinking of?
Clinics are done on a regular basis dependent upon demand. Clinicians have to rent their accomodation from NHS property services et al...money going round in circles. There are no targets that I'm aware of? For example sexual health clinics, wound clinics, blood etc. are all usually conducted in clinics or doctors surgeries and clinicians have to pay for the room...they rent it based on the demand for their services.

 

Because it makes a mockery of your privatisation argument. Privatisation commenced under Thatcher and the problems you mention refer to the consequences of that privatisation.

Just more bleedin obviousness. Let's recap. We have you whinging about Eastern Europeans, despite being 'net contributor' prime aged workers. We then have you whining about tax evasion, despite that being of no significance.

You couldn't be more wrong. In Scandinavia, compared to 3% average, the wealthiest 0.01% are found to evade 30% of their personal taxes. That figure, given the extreme inequalities experienced, will be much higher in Britain.

A red herring. Planning for population change is a straightforward proposition. The Tories always knew their immigration targets were unachievable. The population projections are well known. They are merely motivated by manipulating the Little Englanders. Of course that then leads to extremely silly decision-making (e.g. attacking overseas students; the Windrush debacle etc).

The problem with long term planning reflects fragmentation of the system, a fragmentation generated by idiotic privatisation. We no longer have integrated admin and medical systems. Instead we have a target ridden system that encourages short termism. A child needs health care? Expect a lot of interviews and form filling. The process is now constructed around meeting targets.

Of course we also saw that with the benefit system. A lot of people are dead, including handicapped people, because of privatisation.

 

What privatisation argument? I would rather see the whole thing go to something like the German health system!
And who gives a toss about Thatcher she's been dead for years!!!

rubbish..you've subscribed to the myth mate

tosh... and in any case the tax take from the UK should be adequate to service the police and our poxy health service and all the stuff we have to fund...unless of course its so badly managed!
Let's face it the vast majority of the UK population evidently cannot manage even a basic household budget and they absolutely don't comprehend the cost of NHS, education, pensions and other welfare support from which the snouts are firmly entrencherd. Furthermore, they have over decades, been lulled into a belief system that they can live out their entire lives whilst being funded by the state, and that any shortage of cash for nice stuff is down to government to produce...i.e. the tax payer!!! This is your version of reality I assume...the state will provide all and the "rich" whoever the fcuk they are will pay for them.

Seriously...then you don't have a clue mate. Lead time on infrastructure....sheesh what about building the high speed rail links....how long has that just been in the planning phase....
Please mate you need think about these things, they don't just happen because some political science book says they should!

No... because the system doesn't work....

Are you going to address the issue of tax and how much we should squeeze the poeple to pay for all this or does ideology just say they should and yaboo sucks to them?

The country is up the schitter because of moribund ideology.

 

You crow "It needs privatising" and then refer to problems which developed because of privatisation. Bit obvious really!

A little inconsistency here. You stated "the NHS is a cash sink hole". German spends a high share of its GDP on health care.

Of course the likes of Virgin would absolutely love a shift to an insurance scheme...

You obviously should, given your privatisation guff.

How very Trump-esque! You could try the evidence? e.g. Dustmann et al. (2010, Assessing the fiscal costs and benefits of A8 migration to the UK, Fiscal Studies, 31:1-41)...

"This paper assesses the fiscal consequences of migration to the UK from the Central and Eastern European countries that joined the European Union in May 2004 (A8 countries). We show that A8 immigrants who arrived after EU enlargement in 2004 and who have at least one year of residence, and are therefore legally eligible to claim benefits, are 59 per cent less likely than natives to receive state benefits or tax credits and 57 per cent less likely to live in social housing. Furthermore, even if A8 immigrants had the same demographic characteristics as natives, they would still be 13 per cent less likely to receive benefits and 29 per cent less likely to live in social housing. We go on to compare the net fiscal contribution of A8 immigrants with that of individuals born in the UK, and find that in each fiscal year since enlargement in 2004, irrespective of the way that the net fiscal contribution is defined, A8 immigrants made a positive contribution to the public finances despite the fact that the UK has been running a budget deficit over the last few years. This is because they have a higher labour force participation rate, pay proportionately more in indirect taxes and make much less use of benefits and public services."

Two points. First, it is common sense. As inequality rises, we will expect more tax dodge and evasion. Second, you're the one who brought up the tax red herring (ignoring that its small fry compared to problems created by extreme inequality).

You've blubbered about population growth. Long term planning is straight forward: new hospitals; GP practices etc. That hasn't necessarily occurred mind you, but that merely reflects the ideological attack on the NHS. There has been deliberate underfunding.

People die because of targets and privatisation. But, according to you, it isn't the targets or privatisation. Apparently its the system! The Tories are heavily reliant on those type of inane attitudes. We've seen it with welfare, via 'don't mind austerity, blame the poor'. We've seen it with healthcare, via 'we can't afford it, let's privatise' (using problems created by backdoor privatisation to engineer an apathy over public good provision).

 

Yep, you are all about class privilege. It’s ok though if people in the preferred class have guns and continue to harass the lessor class, eh? In my area, there was never much in the way of crime between those of similar persuasion. BTW, there was very little in the way of PSNI presence... I saw maybe 1 or 2 drive by in cars, none on foot.
The guns are still there, there is less need for them in secular confrontations, but I noted there is a significant increase in gun enforced drug trade.
Then too, while there, if I wanted a gun, even a full auto, I could have had one within hours.

 

Where?

 

#22. Technically I forgot the "!!"

 

Ah... Okay you got me.... I meant get rid of it. Change it to a better system... ranting has its down side

 

Yeah, it happened to the Romans also, damn liberals..

 

As most with U.K. Govt. Service Organization’s, what’s different?

 

Maybe Europe would be better off if every European woman had a little gun in her purse.

Oh, but I forget, they're telling women to just pee in their panties and hopefully that will ward the rapist off...

 

And they even made pepper spray illegal!
It's almost as if they want as many women to be violated as possible.

 

Strange rant, given data such as no upward trend in sexual offences since 2005 in England and Wales.

You been overdoing Breitbart?

 

Bland food, crap weather and can't use a gun - Not exactly marketing ourselves as the play ground for Americans are we...then again, that's what the middle east is for :0)

 

Even Brits don’t like it...they prefer Florida and Costa Del Sol.

 

Our narrow streets cause problems for many Americans - Its a common site in the summer to see Americas stuck in our narrow streets.

They get wedged in and can't turn around or go forwards or backwards.

We're still 30 years thinner than America although i think the gaps is reducing so, give it time and we'll have to widen our streets to stop British people getting stuck as well.

 

Put an American on a round-about... a hamster in a wheel.

I have a friend that rents cars at Shannon. He says side mirrors rarely survive an American rental.

 

My town in northern Colorado is full of roundabouts. They're freaking great.

More likely the different side of the road, and when the family visits Ireland next year we'll get the extra insurance. Thanks for the tip.

 

Insurance is expensive, but worth it if you aren’t used to driving the roads in Ireland. Americans often opt for larger cars...I recommend driving smaller vehicles if visiting...you will get into less trouble.

 

At least no one was shot. Thank goodness.

 

Nothing to see here. Move along.

No, that's not a dead body....its uh, fake blood and stuff.

 

No no, socialism is where it's at.

Please continue so we have something in the US to point at when we head to the polls.

 

It's not so bad. You should try Japan.

I don't know how many times I had to fold my mirrors in going down side roads.