Why do liberals want no limit open borders?

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  1. TOG 6

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    It does, in toto.
    The fact you don't like the answer doesn't change a thing.
     
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    Abolish ICE + Sanctuary cities= de facto Open Borders
     
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    I'm a liberal, and I've never known another liberal, anywhere, anytime, who advocated for "open borders." Neither do I. This whole "open borders" fear mongering is nothing more than conservative propaganda designed to create fear and convince voters to support Republican candidates. It is all based on lies.
     
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    How many examples do I need to produce before you'll accept the claim that some liberals do indeed advocate for open borders, and that said "propaganda" isn't?
     
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    Some is a huge distance from all, which many claim. It's the same as when liberals accuse ALL conservatives of wanting gay people dead, or soldiers dead because god's punishing us for the gays.
     
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    Good point. Many liberals support Trump, and oppose the DP's open borders schemes.
    That is why he is in the White House. :)
     
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    Thats not even close

    I suspect there are 11 million in california alone
     
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    Got it

    No border wall, no arrests of illegals within liberal santuary cities, and no deportations without a 15-year legal fight with the ALCU

    But other than that libs are not for open borders
     
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    Its less than half, but if we build the wall visa overstays will have the entire 100% all to themselves

    And be next on our to-do list
     
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    There may be exceptions out there who advocate for open borders, but they are a small minority & don't speak for the majority of us liberals. They certainly don't speak for me. Conservatives who claim all liberals favor open borders are lying, and causing unnecessary fear & stress for the general public.
     
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    Fortunately, no one made this claim.
     
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    It's not even clear what "open borders" means

    Do we close the Canadian border?

    Does it ONLY mean building that stupid wall?

    I've said many times...build the wall.

    It won't do much if anything and it'll screw the southern part of Texas all to hell (not to mention the amazingly huge COST of that boondoggle). But have at it...

    So I'm not an "open borders" liberal then?
     
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    Schumer even offered Wall funding in exchange for DACA and Republicans refused it.

    So Schumer is not for "open borders" either right?
     
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    Instead of being single minded, look in the mirror. It’s the unwillingness to address comprehensive immigration reform by the GOP that’s the problem. While you guys whine about liberals, you think it’s OK for your conservative buddies in business to hire hundreds of thousands of illegals . They re the ones breaking the law, they’re the reason . Canada doesn’t have a Wall, or a need for one.
     
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    Your information on liberal views on immigration are incredibly ill-informed. Obama was a moderate liberal, and he deported more illegals than his five predecessors combined. I don't know where conservatives get their information. Probably the FOX propaganda station. Or, they just make it up as they go.
     
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    It’s impossible to know what Trump really wants because he lies so much. Other then dictators and Ivanka, no one gets a “straight” answer.
     
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    These people are not really liberals. They’re just registered Democrats who don’t read.
     
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    As I've posted before, I don't know anyone or of anyone who is for completely "open borders." This whole campaign by conservatives to attach that policy to liberals as if it was real is both infuriating and dishonest. Governing a country based on differences conjured up from imagination and/or deliberate malfeasance varies from extremely difficult to impossible. It's really not a good way to approach governing or politics in general.
     
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    Exactly. We’re hard pressed to find any ‘ walled in ‘ countries.
    Simply not hiring illegal workers would do wonders with severe fines on businesses that do makes the real difference but requires comprehensive immigration reform to make it functional.
    Maintaining a third world labor force within the borders of the country while complaining about its ramifications is typical Repub,tripe.
     
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    Yes, in some cases 5 or 6 times before they got drunk and killed someone

    We need the wall
     
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    Then why dont open border libs call our bluff and help us pass the laws necessary to rid the cpuntry of illegals?

    That’ll teach us repubs a lesson we wont soon forget!
     
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    Whenever any country builds a wall along its border, that structure becomes a symbol of that nation's failure as a society. I vote NO on the wall.
     
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    Again...I ask you.

    What does "open borders" mean to you?

    So far you have failed miserably to even TRY to explain that.

    If it means the Wall...I've told you...Dems offered the wall. TRUMP turned that down.

    Is HE for open borders?
     
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    What
    laws might those be?

    Be specific

    And remember..Republicans have had control of Congress and the Presidency for two years and could have passed anything they wanted
     

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