Trump’s Strategy for Success

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  1. opion8d

    opion8d Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Strategically:

    Convince the “Base” that you are a tough, hardheaded businessman that can beat anyone in the game of I win, you lose. Tell everyone that’s how you got so rich and that’s how you will win until they’re sick of winning. Convince the “base” that detractors are all losers.

    Tactically:

    Step One: Identify a hot-button issue (crime, immigration, etc.) and create a crisis based on nothing but gut instinct, politics, and placating the “Base.”

    Step Two: Elevate the “crisis” through “decisive” action until it becomes a daily news item.

    Step Three: Blame the Democrats or previous administrations for the growing “crisis.”

    Step Four: Solve the crisis by rescinding your “decisive action” and claiming a deal was made.

    Step Five: Congratulate yourself.


    When things go wrong:

    Bad thing #1: Factual data hits the media and reveals there was never a crisis or it was already solved.
    Action: Yell Fake News!

    Bad thing #2: Facts take over the narrative and run the news cycle.
    Action: Cry that the Liberal media is picking on me.

    Bad thing #3: Media investigates and reveals it was all a sham.
    Action: Tweet like crazy and look for a scapegoat.
     
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    The Chamber of Commerce is a Republican fortress. It is a bastion of the GOP and all the GOP stands for.

    Trump has managed to piss of the Chamber of Commerce.

    President Donald Trump is right to pressure China to change its protectionist trade and business practices, but he should not be using tariffs do it, a top official at the world’s largest business lobbying group said Monday.

    Myron Brilliant, head of international affairs at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, also told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that Trump should never have used the threat of tariffs to try to force Mexico to crack down on illegal immigration, especially with ratification of the new USMCA, the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, pending in Congress.

    “The weaponization of tariffs — the increase of threats on our economy, on our farmers, our manufacturers, our consumers — is going to hurt our country. It also creates uncertainty with our trading partners,” said Brilliant, suggesting the Mexico situation might send the wrong message to China that the U.S., even if it makes a trade deal as in the case of the USMCA, may still come back later and hold tariffs over their heads. “The world is watching,” he added.


    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/10/tru...ffs-going-to-hurt-us-chamber-of-commerce.html

    What was Trump's reaction? He blasted the Chamber of Commerce, of course.
     
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    Trump's strategy for success is in keeping promises to the American people.

    And he's doing it.

    From today no less...
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    Prior to backing down on his bogus threat to our largest trading partner and friend, Mexico, Trump managed to anger Trump Republicans in the Senate, including Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and several other GOP leaders.

    He has managed to anger the Republican stronghold, the Chamber of Commerce. See post #2.

    He has even managed to piss of the Koch brothers. That piece of brilliance took some effort.

    Americans for Prosperity (AFP), the Koch brothers-backed political organization that has spent tens of millions of dollars supporting Republican candidates in the last several election cycles, says it is open to supporting candidates of any political party.

    Since its founding in 2004, AFP has been known as one of the most influential conservative organizations in the U.S. During the 2018 midterm cycle, the group — and its super PAC, AFP Action — spent a combined $15.3 million on independent expenditures aiding Republican candidates. AFP also engages in other forms of advocacy, including significant local organizing and issue ads, which do not have to be disclosed to the FEC.

    Over the last two decades, the Koch network’s major groups — AFP and Freedom Partners — have cumulatively spent about $120 million in independent expenditures supporting Republican candidates or opposing Democratic candidates, according to OpenSecrets data. They have not spent a single dollar supporting Democratic candidates during that time.


    https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2019/06/koch-brothers-float-backing-democrats-in-2020/

    I have known all along that Trump is stupid. I never dreamed he was so stupid as to provoke the GOP leadership, the Chamber of Commerce, and the Koch brothers with their huge financial support for the GOP.
     
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    Now explain what Trump has done for the great employment figures.
     
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    You really seem to be capable of absolutely ignoring reality.

    I mean... really, head it the sand so deep your legs are sticking up in the air.

    The economy is rocking. Which the left hate so they either attribute it to a continuation of Obama or claim it's about to crash.

    Hate the threats of tariffs Trump uses to drive foreign policy that corrects wrongs... like Chinas unfair trade policies and Mexico protecting their southern border.

    Threaten financial implications against NATO if other allies dont pony up. They ponied up.

    I mean.. I could keep going on.

    Its unreal how out of touch you are.
     
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    I don't have to understand it to like it. Wall Street loves it.

    Eat your heart out democrats.
     
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    The list covers it. Tax cuts, cutting red tape, increasing opportunity in the inner cities, cutting down on female, hispanic, and black unemployment.

    And its working well.

    It would be going even better but Dems hate Trump more than they care to do their jobs.
     
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    Great, now tell me what specifically Trump has done for the economy.

    First, you must be a liberal. You are not a Republican. The GOP hates tariffs. That was proven last week when Congress was about to override Trump, but then he backed down.

    Two, we don't have a trade deal with China. In fact, the Great Negotiator has failed to come up with any major trade deal during the nearly 30 months he has been in office. His threats clearly do not work. Nations don't respond well to threats.

    Third, it is premature to talk about the success of the deal with Mexico. Trump issued a bogus threat because the agreements had already been made. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/us/politics/trump-mexico-deal-tariffs.html

    Fourth, Trump's threats have cost millions of Americans a good portion of the retirement savings. Trump's tariff threats caused six weeks worth of losses on Wall Street.

    That is simply false. A resolution to get NATO members to pony up was passed during the Obama administration. Trump did nothing other than make a fool of himself.

    Please do. A piece of advice. Read news reports, not the White House website.
     
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    No, those are the results of a great economy. What has Trump done for the economy? Listing the results of a great economy does not show what Trump has done for the economy.
     
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    I was young at the end of WWII. I remember the pictures of Dachau and the other Nazi concentration camps in Life Magazine. I realize it is the popular thing to do to for the left to call Trump a Nazi and refer to people who work for him as Nazi's. Anyone who thinks they actually compare has a very distorted view.. I don't think I ever called anyone a Nazi except those who were responsible for those terrible places. . .
     
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    The article mentions caveats to the Trump "boom." The article pointed out that the reason for rapid economic growth was due to tax cuts, deregulation, and "aggressive government spending." That's a big whoops to me. I gives me reason to wonder if this sudden uptick in economic activity will turn out to be a "sugar high." If so, it has a danger of landing us hard into recession with little recourse to stem it with increased spending. The article mentions that possibility as early as this year or next.

    The government spending has created a trillion dollar annual deficit. Wow! We haven't seen a deficit bubble like that since George W. Bush. It looks us eight years to pair that down. Now we're doing it again. Call me a conservative, but pulling a lever as big as Trump did on the economy looks risky. It sure as hell raised a lot of debt. This whole situation is starting to feel like 2007. If the FED cuts interest rates, I'm heading for T-Bills. As I said, when it comes to the economy, color me conservative.

    History has shown us that injecting massive credit in the economy during good times is unwise. If all this weren't worrisome, a number of leading indicators have turned south. I'm not doing any chest thumps over this economy yet. Let's see how it plays out.
     
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    That deficit was under Obama. The budget was prepared by the democratic congress and signed by Obama. Three quarters of the fiscal year was under Obama.
     
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    I think his key discovery is that people do not care what you say as long as you hate what or whom they hate
     
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    Actually no. The Chamber of Commerce was with the GOP until it became infected with leftist globalists. Now it looks after wealthy global businesses.
     
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    The real scoop was that Obama did not have to spend that much to bail out the banks. They should have been left to sink or swim on their own.

    An interesting quote in the article. "Medicare spending as more Baby Boomers retire and become 65 years old and the Afghanistan and Iraq wars he inherited the story is quite different." The baby boomers retiring had nothing to do with it. It turns out that the over 55 labor participation rate went up. It went down for the younger crowd.
     
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    Sebastian Gorka thanks you for your service.
     
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    Simply getting elected caused the markets to jump.

    See.. much of the economy is speculative and depends on investment to stimulate growth. When investors forsee a business friendly environment, they take the risks that result in economic stimulation.

    I know liberals cant conceive private sector entities being responsible for growth, and government doesnt solve everything, but that isnt actually reality.


    Call me whatever you like. I'm not a brainless parrot that simply tows the party line.

    And I liken myself much more libertarian than Republican.

    Because it was all unicorns and rainbows before mean ole' Trump came in?

    https://www.cfr.org/timeline/us-relations-china

    Other presidents were unable to see that China was instituting policy to control the US economically through unfair trading and stealing trade secrets. Newsflash to naive liberals... China doesnt want to be friends. They want to do what's best for themselves, the same as us.

    Losses that still are significantly higher than when he took office.

    https://www.macrotrends.net/1358/dow-jones-industrial-average-last-10-years

    Anybody vested is significantly more wealthy than when Obama left office.


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    Please source this.
     
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    I see this is today's Orange Man Bad thread.
     

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