When Roe v Wade is overturned what will be the effect?

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Gee, you forgot the whole post !



    NO, nowhere, not in this post you just quoted nor anywhere else did I suggest/infer/say that the person who commits the crime should be held to a lower level of responsibility.

    The TRUTH is I posted they should , and ARE, BOTH held to the SAME level of responsibility....EVEN THO YOU CLAIMED OTHERWISE


    Uh, your "imagination " seems to be going into overdrive again..."""""""""""""""""""""



    Why what? What has your imagination come up with this time ? :)
     
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    Not forgot. Simply ignored the irrelevant parts of it.
     
  3. FoxHastings

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    Translated:""" the parts where you showed I was making things up about what you posted "


    :) I think this is very relevant:

    NO, nowhere, not in this post you just quoted nor anywhere else did I suggest/infer/say that the person who commits the crime should be held to a lower level of responsibility.

    The TRUTH is I posted they should , and ARE, BOTH held to the SAME level of responsibility....EVEN THO YOU CLAIMED OTHERWISE
     
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    I support women's rights, but there have been alot of BS in recent years where femenists have pushed for men to be hald responsbile for women choosing to get abortions. There have been several cases where a woman will choose on her own to get an abortin, and then try to sue the father of the children for refusing to help pay for because they didn't support the decision.

    Th way I see it, if it's a woman's choice it's a woman's responsibility. I'm not saying that men shouldn't help cover the costs when they want support the decision to abort the pregnancy, but men shouldn't be forced to pay for it when it was completely the woman's choice when they had nothing to do with the decision.
     
  5. FoxHastings

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    Which is the way it is now......anyone can sue anyone for anything....that doesn't make them right, wrong or evil.....and has no bearing on the right of women to their own bodies.
     
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    Like SCOTUS, Congress has no such authority under the Constitution.
     
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  8. Lesh

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    One more "conservative" Justice on the Supreme Court and Roe will be overturned. That leaves it up to the states. ANd those states that do allow abortion choice will come under HUGE political pressure.
    If the Senate remains in GOP hands...kiss abortion rights good bye

    Kiss healthcare good bye

    Kiss worker's rights good bye
     
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    Nonsense. Are you claiming that the same Senate that confirms the likes of Gorsuch and Kavanaugh would pass such a law?

    Never happen
     
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    Stop!. You're making me excited and optimistic at the same time!!!

    Seriously, I guess you didn't know that the Supreme Court can't simply up and say "We're overturning Roe v. Wade." An existing case has to be ruled on by lower courts then work its way to the Supreme Court before that happens. And it has to be the right one for overturning a long standing one like Roe v. Wade.
     
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    Pressure from whom? Their liberal constituents that put them in office in the first place?

    I'm more worried about California banning pot than banning abortion under such an event.

    But you're right that nationally such a ban will have a horrid ripple effect. It's already killing people in TexAss who can't get a fetus removed to save the pregnant person from sepsis, as one example.
     
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    And what case would that be? What is the "right one" ?

    There hasn't been one in 50 years.
     
  13. Dayton3

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    There was one about 30 years ago that held out that possibility. The Supreme Court allowed some restrictions but didn't overturn Roe V. Wade.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    And what case would that be? What is the "right one" ?

    There hasn't been one in 50 years.



    As I said, there hasn't been one in 50 years..."possibility" didn't overturn RvW. :)


    What case/argument would overturn RvW ?
     
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    I can't predict the future.

    If you and others do not see an overturn of Roe v. Wade as likely then why all the whining by abortion rights zealots in this thread?
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    What case/argument would overturn RvW ?






    I didn't ask you to, I asked What case/argument would overturn RvW ?


    As to predicting the future you're "go to" comment has always been , " Laws can be changed , laws can be changed, laws can be changed" ...which is kinda like predicting the future..


    Uh, duh, read the title of the thread so you know the topic.... and discussing is NOT whining...but if you can segue off into something unrelated then you don't have to answer the pertinent question :

    ""What case/argument would overturn RvW ? :)
     
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    Which is why the laws have and are changing to take away all these super un equal rights. The problem I see is that most of the women in real time aren't even realizing the laws were made by the government and can be changed by the government. And that it isn't their right to get everything their way. They feel it's as natural to be this way just as they feel it's natural to take a crap. So they're beyond the point of change. They'll always be out of compliance so to speak. It's really only the young women say 25 and under who will be able to adjust or not be altered by the laws of the last 45 years. So women need to get a grip on all of this stuff.
     
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    A statement of general belief is not "predicting the future". At least in regards to specifics.
     
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    I asked What case/argument would overturn RvW ? Still no answer? That's OK because NO one has ever come up with an answer to that very pertinent question...
     
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    Prove it with a link to an unbiased source or it didn't happen.
     
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    While I agree with he should provide a source. But to say it didn't happen because he doesn't provide a source is logically inconsistent.
     
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    After 50 years of fighting Roe. you claim they won't find such a case?

    Of course they will
     
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    Pressure from the anti-abortion lobby that will pivot from national attacks to pin point local attacks...and they will pick them off one by one
     
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    I assumed they will but Fox Hastings has been suggesting the opposite.
     
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    Not all women, only those that support baby killing, and what's a little arson compared to that?
     
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