Clyburn: DNC should shut down primaries, debates if Biden sweeps states

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  1. excalibur26

    excalibur26 Newly Registered

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    Sure, put Joe Biden away somewhere, but for how long? They know, they know.


    Rep. James Clyburn (D-S.C.) said that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) should step in to end the primary process if former Vice President Joe Biden sweeps the six states holding primaries and caucuses Tuesday night.

    Clyburn, the No. 3 House Democrat and a prominent Biden backer, said on NPR that the DNC should cancel the remaining contests and debates if it becomes clear that the former vice president has an insurmountable delegate lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

    “I think when the night is over, Joe Biden will be the prohibitive favorite to win the Democratic nomination, and, quite frankly, if the night ends the way it has begun, I think it is time for us to shut this primary down, it is time for us to cancel the rest of these debates — because you don’t do anything but get yourself in trouble if you continue in this contest when it’s obvious that the numbers will not shake out for you,” Clyburn said.

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  2. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    The DNC can do that but will it?
     
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    There is zero reason to believe that the DNC would impose such a draconian, top down order on that front because it would only hurt the DNC by reducing enthusiasm and turnout from Bernie's supporters and ensuring that protests will take place during the DNC convention.

    Now...is there a chance that Bernie will be approached, privately, and asked to publicly make some sort of suggestion in exchange for a policy position (like pushing for Medicare for All) change for Biden/DNC? Sure, I could see that because there comes a point when a long, drawn out fight where Biden is defending against a candidate who has nothing to lose is only going to help Trump.
     
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    Sounds like a GREAT Idea.

    Bernie has NO Chance.

    Michigan was a MUST WIN for Bernie.

    He is polling under 40%.

    Bernie is toast.

    Bernie needs to get out, he is setting money on Fire at this point.

    Bernie needs to get out, go through with the Debate, so he choose (stay classy) and then get out by Friday the 20th.

    Bernie is only hurting Biden
     
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    Bernie should drop out, but he shouldn’t be forced to.
     
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    All signs point to Bernie going through the Sunday Debate, staying classy (and not attacking Joe) and then getting out after next Tuesday.

    Even AOC sees the writing on the Wall.

    AOC is fully committed to supporting the eventual Dem. Nominee.
     
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    If there’s only one candidate debates don’t make much sense. Bernie has reportedly already flown back to Vermont tonight. That could be a sign he’s accessing his viability. The Party should wait for Sanders’ decision. No reason to push the issue and alienate anyone: be respectful.
     
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    Relax guys, its just the beginning of March. Let the process move forward. Let the voters have their say. Nobody should even consider canceling primaries. Let Bernie do his thing and he'll quit and endorse in a way that salves feelings, push him too hard, or try to play petty games for small advantage, and you'll provide an excuse for Bernie not to endorse and keep his commitment. Its not about when he quits, its about how he does this and nobody is in a better position to make this smooth than Sanders is. Its about his inner circle too. He has to bring them along on this, and that may take more time than your math does.
     
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    If Bernie stays in beyond the Blowout Losses Next Tuesday he IS:

    1) Setting Money on Fire

    2) Hurting Biden for November.

    Nobody is going to cancel primaries, but there will be no more debates and Sanders needs to drop out after next Tuesday.

    After next Tuesday's Blowout Losses, Sanders should contact Biden.

    Then late next week, during a Joint Appearance, Bernie should endorse Biden.
     
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    You are rushing a process that need not be rushed. Bernie staying in a couple of weeks or a month longer, and being gracious and allowing a respectful let down for his very committed staff and followers, is not going to hurt Biden nearly as much as a scorch and burn strategy all the way through the convention with floor fights on half the platform. As for the debate, that is not a problem. There won't be an audience anyway, and allowing a little venting won't kill Biden. Let this campaign start to acclimate to the new reality. Give them space

    Trust me, its worth it.
     
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    I think it would be great if they did that. It would give the "Bernie bros" a huge excuse to act like a bunch of entitled basement dwellers while they launch their anger on the party. I'm all for it.
     
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    He won't endorse anyone until he's forced to. If they proceeded to the primaries he would be forced to see reality. If they shut down the primary election early he will see himself as a victim. He already got screwed once and hasn't forgotten.
     
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    Just give Bernie and 13 million supporters the gas pipe.
     
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    So Clyburn wants to be "Hidin' with Biden"......lolz!

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    Or, do they want to stop it now because Biden is low on cash and needs to save for the general election?
     
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    :roflol:

    Biden can win states without running a single Media Ad.

    "Biden is low on cash"?:roflol:

    But, as far as "money" goes, any dollar spent by the Sanders Campaign is like setting money on fire.

    Bernie should get out now, and save himself next week's embarrassment.
     
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    I think the DNC is scared ti death of Biden getting on a public stage and inadvertently and clumsily eating the Democrats' lunch​
     
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    Biden could be the first mainstream candidate to have a major break down on the debate stage.

    I could see Biden and Bernie having a push up contest :roflol:
     
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    Bernie already folded like a tent.

    Tucker Carlson called it perfectly- Bernie is a professional loser.

    Bernie has made a tidy living off being a runner up.

    Losing is easy, winning is hard, and the commies always go for the easy cash.

    Bernie is more than happy to bow out gracefully(read: lazily)
     
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    :roflol:

    At last, something we ALL can be happy about...

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    That may be quite true.
     
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    Yep looks like this primary was rigged for Biden.

    Later on the fix will be seen once it is too late

    We are talking about a most corrupt DNC here folks .
     
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    Let the process play out. The dems want to stop the debates because they say Sanders doesn't have the numbers to win. However, they had no problem wasting the time and money on impeachment when they KNEW the ultimate outcome.
     
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    prohibitive favorite????????

    It appears he doesn't have the vocabulary of a 5th grader. He should have said presumptive favorite. I really want to know just how boneheads like Clyburn get elected in the first place when he says stupid stuff like the above. It boggles the mind.
     
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    Clyburn's use of the phrase "prohibitive favorite" is correct in his speech = "3. So likely to win as to discourage competition: the prohibitive favorite to win the nomination." https://www.thefreedictionary.com/prohibitive


    presumptive favorite = "1: based on probability or presumption the presumptive nominee"

    Therefore, Biden is the "prohibitive favorite" (ikely to win) because of the probability that he will continue to get more delegates than Sanders, which makes him the presumptive nominee.
     

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