Do you agree with race realism?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Conservative Democrat, Jul 19, 2020.

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Do you agree with race realism?

  1. Yes.

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  2. No.

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  3. Don't know, no opinion.

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  1. Reasonablerob

    Reasonablerob Well-Known Member

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    By your logic are Oriental people smarter than whites as they're doing so well? Or is it a question of culture, one putting an emphasis on ambition, intellectualism and education more than others?
     
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    What does that have to do with the failure of affirmative action ??

    If you want to help low income people advocate for opportunity zones for immediate effect and school choice/vouchers system for the future. The most important civil right going forward is the right to a good education. Democrats did nothing to implement opportunity zones, advocated for illegal immigration which took jobs and suppressed wages of low income workers, and are against school choice instead recommending that Washington DC cut back on charter schools for which there is a 60,000 child waiting list.
     
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    I'm reminded of the story of officials trying to test the intelligence of immigrants on Ellis Island and discovering that white Anglo-Saxons were the smartest of all. But then, considering the tests were in English which most of the non-Anglo-Saxons didn't speak it said more about the intelligence of the researchers than those whom they were testing.
     
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    Women have enough strength to operate plows, particularly the scratch plows which were the only kind existing until late antiquity. Farming could be done with hoes in the Meditteranean. Children freeze to death now often together with their happily married parents

    You point out correctly that the Bantu have had agriculture for 4000 years, and that 4 millennia is more than enough time for evolutionary changes, yet then go on to say that blacks are more influenced by folkways from 13000 years ago than by the events of the last 400 years.

    Have you ever read "Guns, Germs and Steel" by Jared Diamond?
     
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    Affordable Housing is a thing to.. related to Affirmative Action I maintain 40 units. I see a lot of poverty. Our whole company does

    Guess what.. we can't evict
     
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    Are you aware that African Americans speak English and that the tests are far more refined now and they show Asians the highest on testing and many of them do not speak English.
     
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    Looking to far in the past loses relevancy for me quickly.. Dispersement of resources is more complicated than hunter gathering.. Once we get the star trek food replicator all our problems will be solved.. Personally I would go with the lobster..

    Not my kind of read.. but I know somebody who likely has read it..

    https://www.amazon.com/Guns-Germs-Steel-Fates-Societies/dp/0393317552
     
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    Section 8 is a symptom of the failure of the temporary “war on poverty “ which was supposed to subsidize individuals so they could get an education and break the cycle of poverty. Instead it destroyed the black nuclear family. BTW BLM advocates the destruction of the nuclear family.
     
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    But again, I say this is a cultural rather than a racial difference, look at Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Barack Obama, Condeleeza Rice etc etc, whilst the whole Tiger Mother cliche is not always true there is an element to it;

     
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    Yes there will always be outliers and Barack Obama could never be elected president were he not Black which he is not and he is of mixed race.
     
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    Not worthy of response..
     
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    Yet you responded...?
     
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    Each passing generation has less and less racists. It's why I say another 50 yrs or so.
     
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    Yep, you got old.
    The new generation will work towards more equality.

    Those that opposed the civil rights movement are dying off. They had been in control of the world until recently. 10 or so yrs. Now systemic racism, hopefully declines even more.
    But I suspect another 2 generations yet.
     
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    There is only 1 race. The human race.
     
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    Do you resent women also?
    Latin folks?
    LGBT folks?
    All non white males?
    That is what AA is about.
     
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    Yep, had a long post. Got rid of it. To argue this issue for me is pointless.
     
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    Then why not just ignore it?
     
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    Not sure how this applies to my question of the definition of race.
     
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    Let’s do a thought experiment. What if IQ tests showed African Americans to be the ones with the superior scores? Would there be all these calls to ban IQ tests in public schools and to say they are nonsense or would the news be trumpeted across all media services as a victory for what we knew all along? Be honest.
     
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    There is only 1 RACE, the HUMAN race.

    So that ends the thread's question.

    NO, is the answer. There's nothing to agree with.
     
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    Well dairyair has told us with intimidating authority including capitalization that his way is the right way and that the thread is no longer up for debate. So I of course am intimidated and will slink off :)
     
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    You are intimidated?
    Sorry, didn't mean to scare you.

    Just stated a simple fact.
     
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    Desegregation reversed in 1989, we are segregating.

    Racist groups and violence have been growing under Trump, for the obvious reason.

    How about we stop letting it get worse before we declare victory.
     
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    I will not pass judgment on a whole ethnic group by suggesting they do something we aren't all that much better at. Marriage is seen more as a romanticized ceremony that tends to be short-term in our culture. Our concept of White values is a gross generalization and is somewhat questionable.

    Crime is a serious problem in our society as well. The same with drugs. Whites have a bigger problem than most other groups. Let's not ignore it or re-write the narrative by leaving out the fact that we have those problems, and they have much to do with poverty. The claim that such things are a result of our ethnicity is another of those post hoc fallacies that amounts to little more than making assumptions about statistics that support our prejudices.

    We like to claim that Whites value education, but that's a statement that isn't qualified. Look at the arguments here, and it seems we value education as long as it's related to specific employment. We simply don't want to waste our time and money so we focus on the sciences and ignore the arts. How that can be seen as valuing education is rather interesting unless you're limiting education to marketable skills.
     
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