Why is media so corrupt?

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  1. I justsayin

    I justsayin Well-Known Member

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    They have such influence over us.How did they turn so bad?
     
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    There’s more money in it? Basically every story of corruption, more profitable to push a left-right narrative than deal with the reality of the world, which is typically grey and inconvenient.
     
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    They're owned by a handful of corporations that, via interlocking directorateships with foreign partners, stand to become major controlling entities in a global corporate technocracy. All they have to do is convince us to hand over our national sovereignty so their owners can dole out the collectivist utopia.
     
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    Collectivist utopia? Chortle, chortle! Yep, them there rich elite are properly into collectivisation.

    The corporate media wants to maintain the status quo. You see that when they are confronted with anything genuine left wing. The problem here isn't the media. It is right wing perception of the media. In a post-truth society there needs to be a boogieman. The media provides it. Now Trump has harvested this guff, but it didn't start with him. Journalistic integrity was ultimately broken with the Iraq War and the use of blind nationalism to stop government critique.

    Now any critique is automatically attacked...
     
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    First they're all owned by billionaires, so they're there to defend the interests of their master.

    Second, there is matters of profitability. Deliving truth is a harsh task that require a lot of intellectual efforts. Medias over time, and that for a very long time copied their codes on entertainment, and medias are more and more a show like other. I suppose there is a global lack of interest for truth, because people are more busy having fun.

    The last point is that to discover truth, you need to be brave. When you show the dirty acts of dirty people, you get killed. Opposing gangs, corrupted politician, corrupted companies, all of that would lead you, and maybe not only you but people you love also, in the grave, or just get your reputation absolutly destroyed, face harrassement.

    There is two faces of journalism, journalist as someone who would fight to expose truth and journalist as just a fancy way to describe a paper seller. His aim is to sell the most paper, or now pixels and time of attention. The later conception seems to me the most common.
     
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    And we have lost the "investigative journalists". They would do the muckraking and expose corrupt politicians by giving us the facts. Now the height of ambition for a journalist is to be on a video to show us a vehicle crash, produce a video of an interview with a politician, Stand out in a snow storm and tell us it's snowing, or tell us on camera some "breaking" news and give an opinion at the closing of the news. Today's journalist are nothing more than "movie star wannabees".
     
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    Don't you have to at least try to prove the assertion on which the thread is based before expecting serious replies?
     
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    But if half of the population rejects the "facts", how is that the journalist's fault?
     
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    They are just playing FOLLOW THE LEADER!!!!!
     
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    You could be right but that's a tough statement to prove. But we can prove some of the media's "facts" are half facts or just lies.
     
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    Follow the money. It usually leads to something like a Bezos or some other swamp creature.
     
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    I wont ask for links to support that...even the links would likely contradict each other.
    Just seems once a person decides something is true of false...there is no changing their mind.
    Actual "Facts" don't really matter as much as whose facts they happen to be.
    And there is no neutral mediator that either side would trust to intervene with truth.
    Perhaps investigative journalists have been replaced by Rush Limbaugh type commentators
    as the preferred source of "facts".
     
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    Fake News is not hard to find or document. Whistleblowers have been blowing the whistle for a very long time.

    ""Producer Ariana Pekary recently resigned from MSNBC with an open letter accusing the news network of predicating its editorial process on ratings and alleging that its model "blocks diversity of thought and content because the networks have incentive to amplify fringe voices and events."

    "I don’t know what I’m going to do next exactly but I simply couldn’t stay there anymore," Ariana Pekary, a producer for MSNBC's second-most-watched program, "The Last Word with Lawrence O'Donnell," wrote on her website. "My colleagues are very smart people with good intentions. The problem is the job itself. It forces skilled journalists to make bad decisions on a daily basis.""
    THE HILL, MSNBC producer pens scathing exit letter: Ratings model 'blocks diversity of thought and content', BY JOE CONCHA, 08/04/20.
    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/...exit-letter-ratings-model-blocks-diversity-of

    Rush Limbaugh has never claimed to be a journalist.
     
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    What "facts" are half the public rejecting?
     
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    Ask a journalist why they chose that profession and they mostly say, "To make a difference". Just presenting the facts is not what they have in mind. They are mostly liberal, they admit that, and want to tell you their opinion or give you the facts that support their opinion. There, I just answered the OP question.
     
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    Yes I did see one article on that. but not much detail.
    I never said he claimed to be a journalist...I described him as a commentator...
     
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    Think of it as a rhetorical question if you'd like...the point I was trying to make is that people these days
    seem to be basing their decisions on their own preferred opinions rather than actual truth.
    Don't see much that a journalist can do to change their minds if people only believe who or what they want to
    regardless of truth.
     
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    Do you think Ariana Pekary's accusations against MSNBC are just more Fake News? ;-)

    In fact, MSNBC, like the rest of the MSM has a long history of spreading the Fake News.

    "Whatever your views might be about Jill Stein and her third-party candidacy, there is no disputing the fact that Nance’s statement was a falsehood, a fabrication, a lie. Jill Stein did not have a show on RT, nor did she ever host a show on RT. What Nance said was made up out of whole cloth – fabricated – in order to encourage MSNBC viewers to believe that Stein, one of the candidates running against Clinton, was a paid agent of the Kremlin and was an employee of RT."
    THE INTERCEPT, MSNBC Does Not Merely Permit Fabrications Against Democratic Party Critics. It Encourages and Rewards Them., Glenn Greenwald, July 8 2018.
    https://theintercept.com/2018/07/08...party-critics-it-encourages-and-rewards-them/
     
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    Americans can be persuaded by the truth, but very few of us still trust the MSM to tell the truth.
    Do you trust the MSM news media?
     
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    The media is lazy when it comes to investigating. They like to stick a mic under one person's nose and say, "So and so said about you . . .", or they will ask a politician, "What do you tell the people who say . . .". They also like to recite the poll numbers.
    And they love the gotcha questions.
    Heck it takes little training to do any of the above.
     
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    I read the link you posted. Sounds to me like Nance is guilty of lying and NBC does nothing about it.
    But by the same token, Trump can spew falsehoods all day if he wants to and no one cares.
    So why is a lying Nance any worse than a lying Trump?
     
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    Sorry but I only listen to NPR and watch PBS news. I know nothing about MSM
     
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    Like Faux News, Breitbart, and Comedy Sites like OAN and Newsmax?

    That is a really great question.

    The easy answer is because the USA has enabled a Tinfoil Hat (who has legitimized Conspiracy Sites, like Trump) to occupy the White House.
     
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    Yes I can understand your view. Everything is made into a "reality show" nowadays.
    They have to dramatize everything that takes place so people wont get bored and turn them off.
    But it's the same with Presidential debates. The issues don't matter as much as Trump's hand size
    or Biden's nickname. Can you imagine a serious debate featuring Trump and Biden? Or Trump and anyone?
     
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    The answer should be to tell the truth. Our new wave of journalism is certainly more concerned with “making a difference in what THEY believe in”. It’s distorting the truth to fit a narrative and make as much money as possible. Truth is not important.
     
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