What I can see is you pretext criticizing Israeli foreign policy in regards to Israel by using that pretext to accuse all Jews of being perpetrators of whatever you feel you should accuse ALL Jews of. In so doing you show you don't challenge the ideology of Zionism, you use the existence of the state of Israel and the holocaust as excuses to insult Jews and incite hatred about them.
Again you illustrate like Pitbull and the handful of anti-semites on this forum that you write incoherently. Your comments make zero sense. Germany has a law prohibiting the denial of the holocaust because the evidence of the holocaust remains all across its country and denying it would necessarily cause pain and negative trauma to not just Jews but all Germans who have had to live with the consequences of Nazi Germany. For the majority of Germans, their painful reminder is there and they do not need people like you inflaming what remain raw emotional memories with your agenda. Your claim that certain speech is "protected" but other speech is not is fractured. You can't write a sentence without screwing up your syntax and context. What you have tried to argue is that the laws prohibiting the denial of the holocaust are part of a doible standard however you clearly lack the literal capacity to explain why there is a double standard and what hate speech you think is being allowed.
What does the above mean? You came on this forum to justify denying the holocaust and condoning negative slurs against Jews now you complain about Iran being anti-semitic no one will stop it? Lol.
What's with your snarky attitude? Before berating others on this thread about their syntax, context etc, you should consider that English may not be the first language of those you have chosen to ridicule. I feel that it is entirely possible to discuss even volatile topics like the fraudulent holocaust narrative without resorting to mean spirited slurs and vapid accusations of "anti Semitism". Looking at the WW2 era honestly and objectively has nothing to do with anti Semitism or pro Nazi sentiment. It is simply acknowledging the fact that, contrary to prolific Allied atrocity propaganda, the Germans were no more genocidal, ruthless and brutal than any other participant in that bloody conflict. If you were truly concerned about not causing "pain and negative trauma" or "inflaming raw emotional memories" you would join most of the rest of the world in rejecting the fraudulent and slanderous holocaust narrative that is so repetitively trumpeted by the profit driven Hollywood -Holocaust Industry consortium. Here we are almost 80 years later and barely a day passes without some fame and money hungry movie maker and phony "survivor" (2) trotting yet another fictitious movie or fraudulent memoir about the "evil" Germans to a gullible and professionally deceived Western audience. It is the profit driven Holocaust Industry that thrives on exploiting the "pain and negative trauma" that seems to concern you, not people with the critical thinking abilities to question the Allied atrocity propaganda that has deceived gullible and hate filled minds as far back as 1939(3). Re: What evidence? Photos of typhus ridden bodies and crematoria are not evidence of an industrialized and systematic extermination agenda. Where are the hundreds of homicidal gas chambers that would have been needed to gas millions of people? That's right, they simply don't exist and never did. They, like the "human skin lampshades", "human fat soap", electrified "Conveyor belt of Death"(4) and other grotesque contraptions, are simply horrific fabrications of Allied atrocity propagandists and the Holocaust Industry used to extort $ Billions, vilify the German people and inflame "raw emotional memories". It is the Hollywood - Holocaust Industry consortium that cranks out one melodramatic Holo-horror movie after another, sullies city after city with grisly holocaust theme parks and lobbied for the "Never Again Education Act" for more thorough holocaust brainwashing of schoolchildren that keeps the painful wounds open for crass profit. The fact remains that no nationality, ethnic or religious group is intrinsically any more good or evil than another but as there's money to be made, the Holocaust Industry will continue fervently marketing its grossly exaggerated product above all other human tragedies. After all, if it's not about the money, why is no amount of money enough? (1) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS” https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/ EXCERPT "Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts. Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth. Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust." - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated. - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED (2) "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war. No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out. Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED (3) "Desperate Deception: British Covert Operations in the United States, 1939-44" https://www.amazon.com/Desperate-Deception-Operations-Brasseys-Intelligence-ebook/dp/B006OBG5QW (4) "Auschwitz Electrical Conveyor belt of Death" https://disjecta.wordpress.com/2018/01/26/auschwitz-electrical-conveyor-belt-of-death/ EXCERPT "It’s a little known fact that running alongside the scientifically implausible gas chambers at Auschwitz ran the electrified conveyor belts of death. These industrialised slaughter belts, we can assume took the passive cargo directly from the “cattle cars” and electrocuted the hapless victims without struggle then disposed of the evidence in Nazi furnaces. One can only guess at the “special devices” for killing children. Somehow visions of Willy Wonka’s Chocolate/extermination factory spring to mind."CONTINUED
Grau stated: "What's with your snarky attitude? Before berating others on this thread about their syntax, context etc, you should consider that English may not be the first language of those you have chosen to ridicule. I feel that it is entirely possible to discuss even volatile topics like the fraudulent holocaust narrative without resorting to mean spirited slurs and vapid accusations of "anti Semitism" Grau came on this forum to deny the holocaust. His agenda on this forum from past posts and this one speak for themselves. I thank the American people and their servicemen and women who were the heart and soul of a movement that defeated Nazism through a genuine belief in a better way of life. Grau's attempt to suggest I victimize people who do not speak English while he denies the holocaust speaks for itself.
Please show anywhere on this or other threads where I have denied that the holocaust happened. The same professional holocaust hucksters who have tried to pass off "human skin lampshades", homicidal gas chambers, "human fat soap", "6 million Jews murdered", "human vaporizers"(1) and other outright lies have coined the fraudulent misnomer, "holocaust denier" to slander and mischaracterize the views of the world's majority of people who reject the grossly inflated and dishonest embellishments inherent in the standard holocaust narrative. Re: No, I did not join this forum to "deny the holocaust". I have a wide variety of interests of which European history is only one. It is true that I have written to dispel slanderous lies about the German people generated by Allied propagandists and the fraudulent Holocaust Industry(2) used to murder countless innocent POWs and other individuals while extorting $ Billions from governments and entities around the world. I, however, am not the topic of this thread and the fact that you cannot refute even one of my Posts debunking the standard holocaust narrative shows the falsity of the ugly myths you have chosen to believe without question. (1) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts" http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED (2) "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION" http://www.jpost.com/Diaspora/Holoc...aud-likely-much-higher-than-57-million-408298 EXCERPT "Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.” CONTINUED
I have put Grau on ignore.He has again responded ridiculing the holocaust and then in the very next sentence challenged me to proving the holocaust happened. That just shows a poor attempt at baiting of course. I have said what I have to say. I have put him on ignore but I do from time to time when I see the same tired words spewing neo Nazi recycled scripts I challenge these words now and then. To remain silent condones it, to engage its incites it and they of course know this which is why they engage in the tactics they do and I try refrain when its clear I made my point and they now bait.
Always has been on this forum, as is Christian bashing and slanders, which is one reason so many left; they eventually ban anybody who annoys the assorted Xian and Jew hating deviants and sickos.
If you're going to put me "on ignore" and then proceed to misrepresent my views and actions, then you're not really ignoring me. Nowhere have I expressed any pro Nazi, pro Neo Nazi or anti Jewish sentiments. My purpose in contributing to this thread is to exonerate the German people from fraudulent lies used by the Holocaust Industry to extract $Billions, torment the innocent and perpetuate one of history's most grotesque conspiracy theories. The fact that you can't refute anything I've written debunking holocaustian myths, as you say, speaks for itself. Finally, in what way am I "baiting" you? This is a public debate forum that you have chosen to join but don't want to debate in good faith. Do you really expect your mischaracterizations of others and recitations of fraudulent holocaust myths to go unchallenged? It's very simple, if you don't want to participate in a public debate forum, don't submit comments.
I have to disagree with you. People have the right to discuss the Holocaust and demand evidence. You have absolutely no right to deny people their freedom of speech or expressing their opinion.
To demand evidence the holocaust exists necessarily means you deny it exists otherwise there would be no demand for evidence to prove it. No I do not have to prove the holocaust exists. Next who are you or anyone to DEMAND anything? Demand is a word for entitlement. You are not entitled to a damn thing. Demand is the word of someone who feels self entitled and assumes they can order others about. You mistake me for someone you want to be subordinate to you and serve you. You know what you can do with that attitude. Next at no time have I argued or stated you are not free to your opinions or the other holocaust deniers their opinions. I challenge them. You are no victim. No one has tread on your right to come on this board and engage in anti-semitic diatribes, deny the holocaust, insult holocaust survivors and the people who fought to defeat it and assure a democratic system so people like you can come on this forum and spew hatred. No one.
Where does the 'Nazi' part come in? I must have missed the latest news, where Israelis are tossing Arabs into ovens and invading Russia and Europe. As for Jewish/Islamic relations, they were pretty good for some 1,200 years, when Jewish troops joined their Islamic brothers in invading the West, threw open the gates of Spanish cities to their invading armies, and then plundered the locals as garrison troops and administrators for a few hundred years in Spain and elsewhere; are historical facts available in the Jewish Encyclopedia also 'antisemitic? Or are all criticisms of Jews Behaving Badly antisemitic as well? What if somebody calls 'Bullshit' on Jewish claims of being unfairly treated by the Crusades or the Spanish Inquisition?
True, since not all historical criticisms are 'antisemitic', and indeed a lot of history is censored and hidden behind holocaust sympathy. No reason to pander to the herd and the Jewish bigots because of Hitler. The Ultra-Orthodox and some of the Orthodox are indeed hard core racists, a turn Judaism made in the post-exilic centuries that ultimately led to their decline as a tribal nation; they make up less than 10% of Israeli Jews, and only recently have a few even been allowed in the IDF, which will turn out to be a mistake imo but they think they can control them. Jews were never the 'perpetual victims' they claim to be; they made out quite well most of the time. They suffered less than many other tribes and never faced extinction as did many others.
The gratuitous overuse of the epithets "anti Semite", "Jew hater", "Neo Nazi" etc by holocaust hucksters and Israel's 15,000 strong global army(1) of paid, trained and scripted Hasbara Trolls is a poor but common substitute for calm, rational discourse and factual assertions. Former Israeli Education Minister Shulamit Aloni reveals what is known as "the trick" that all of us who have attempted to discuss issues with holocaust hucksters and fervent Zionists have experienced: “WELL, IT’S A TRICK, WE ALWAYS USE IT. WHEN FROM EUROPE SOMEBODY IS CRITICIZING ISRAEL, THEN WE BRING UP THE HOLOCAUST. WHEN IN THIS COUNTRY (THE US) PEOPLE ARE CRITICIZING ISRAEL, THEN THEY ARE ANTI-SEMITIC…..IT’S VERY EASY TO BLAME PEOPLE WHO CRITICIZE CERTAIN ACTS OF THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT AS ANTI-SEMITIC, AND TO BRING UP THE HOLOCAUST, AND THE SUFFERING OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE, AND THAT IS TO JUSTIFY EVERYTHING WE DO TO THE PALESTINIANS.” Finally, many members of Israel's global army of trained & scripted Hasbara Trolls are paid as much as $2,000- per week for 5 hours worth of "work".(2) (1) “Here’s how to deal with extremist pro-Israeli trolls on social media” https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2019/06/...extremist-pro-israeli-trolls-on-social-media/ EXCERPT “We have known for a long time that the Israeli government funds intensive online attacks against people who criticise their policies or express support for the BDS movement (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) against Israel or actively support the Palestinian struggle for human rights. A person attacked in this way will find messages posted online calling them a “Nazi”, “anti-Semite”, “Jew-hater” etc and will typically feel shocked and overwhelmed. Now we know the details of how this works. In many cases these attacks will be from a single person using multiple on-line identities on behalf of an Israeli government funded group called ACT.IL. ACT.IL boasts it has 15,000 “online volunteers” from 73 countries who use their app to perform online “missions” in exchange for “cool prizes” and “scholarships”. CONTINUED (2) "How Israel and its partisans work to censor the Internet" https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-partisans-work-censor-internet/ EXCERPT "As it turns out, Israel and Israeli institutions employ armies of Internet warriors—from Israeli soldiers to students—to spread propaganda online and try to get content banned that Israel doesn’t want seen. Israel and partisans of Israel have long had a significant presence on the Internet, working to promote the Israel narrative and block facts about Palestine, the Israel lobby, and other subject matter they wish covered up. In addition to these, however, a number of orchestrated, often well-funded projects sponsored by the Israeli government and others have come to light. These projects work to place pro-Israel content throughout the Internet, and to remove information Israel doesn’t wish people to know. Under this program, Israeli students are paid $2,000 to work five hours per week to “lead the battle against hostile websites.” Campaign to infiltrate Wikipedia CONTINUED
To start with your comment that Jews never faced extinction and suffered less than other tribes are subjective evaluative statements and are baseless. You assume Jews faced and face no threat of extinction and you assume they "suffered less" . What the hell does that mean? To start with of course they faced extinction numerous times and still do and a simple review of basic Jewish history could show you that. Secondly to contend one human or group of humans suffers or suffered "less" than another, or one group, is precisely the kind of defective opining I have and will continue to challenge on this board when discussing history. People do not suffer more or less, they suffer. How they suffer why they suffer, what they undergo. ultimately is experienced on an individual level and then on a collective level with others in the same targeted group. You don't and can't speak for the mount of suffering anyone has gone through but yourself. If you can not understand that, then try for the sake of yourself and humanity. You do not feel the pain of others and you should never presume the pain of others and why and where do you get off presuming you can compare pain in different people and say one is greater? Please show me the methodology you used to determine Jews did not face extinction or felt less pain or suffering than others. Of course you have no methodology. All you have is your subjective presumptions. Finally most Ultra-Orthodox Jews in Israel are not Zionist and do not believe a Jewish state should exist until the Messiah first returns. In their philosophy setting up a state of Israel before the Messiah returned is against what they believe was told them in the Torah. Their religion does not lead to discrimination based on race, it in fact shuts out everyone of any colour based on not having the same religious views. They are just as prejudice against me and my pale reform Jewish hide as they are anyone else who does not conform to their version of Judaism.
Claiming they weren't targeted for genocide by Nazis, with accomplices all over Europe, especially eastern Europe, is as much rubbish as Jewish scary stories they use to frighten their children with re Da Evul Xians. Eisenhower was right to tell Patton and the others to kiss off, he wasn't going to shed one drop of blood liberating eastern Europe from the Soviets; they deserved their fates.
Actually it's historical fact. It means they more often than not held privileged positions in both Islamic and Christian kingdoms, and accumulated great wealth as a result; a few pogrom here and there aren't evidence of' two thousand years of hapless innocence oppressed for no reason other than evul bigots n stuff'. Nope. 'They' never faced extinction; a few ghettos here and there suffered from riots and expulsions, but on the whole they did very well under Islam and of course sided with Islam against Christians for the vast majority of years until the around the 18th century. Ah .. well, I might try to care, if your game gets better than this drivel. Sophistry only works when talented writers attempt it; otherwise it's just inane babbling, not facts. I don't care what you think about it; it has nothing to do with the historical record, the one you don't like to talk about and don't want anybody else to either. If you want to make a silly claim Jews are extinct, go ahead, I don't mind. The rest of your editorializing I don't need any schooling on. The post-exilic Jews of the Return set themselves up as 'The Real Jews' at the expense of most other Jews, including an increasing reliance on 'racial purity' laws and regulations that finally led to their losing Jerusalem and ceasing to be a dynamic progressive culture, the Christians came along and took the flag from then on, while the Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox amuse themselves telling each other how superior they are and everyone else are dogs, not really all that different from Nazis.
Re: I assume that by "they", you mean Europe's Jewish population. No, I don't deny that some of Europe's Jews like numerous other groups were placed in work camps where some were executed, many died of typhus but most were either released or liberated. You are aware, I hope, that all sides in WW2 used propaganda so I do not believe the residual Allied atrocity propaganda and fraudulent Holocaust Industry myths about Jews being immediately hurled from "cattle cars" into "homicidal gas chambers" and then into "ovens" because not one of the hundreds of gas chambers needed to kill "millions of people" exists or ever existed. Meanwhile, grisly photos of piles of typhus ridden bodies and crematoria do not prove that a genocidal agenda was in place; only that people died of disease or shortages of essential food & supplies. If 6 million had been murdered, how could the world's Jewish population have grown by almost 4 million between 1939 and 1947 according to Jewish sources?(*) There is, however, no evidence of a genocidal agenda similar to to Stalin's, Mao's, or any other real mass killers or else Jews would not have been among Germany's high ranking Nazis,(1) military leaders and highly honored Military leaders(2) If Germany's National Socialists had wanted to wipe out Germany's Jewish population, they would not have allowed Jews to be Nazi Party members or condoned 150,000 Jews to serve in Hitler's military(2). Many of these German Jews rose to the highest ranks in charge of thousands of men and received Germany's highest military honors with Hitler's full knowledge and approval. Unlike Stalin, Mao and other truly genocidal individuals, there is not a single written order from Hitler for the mass extermination of anyone(3) Finally, Germany's National Socialists worked closely with the German Zionist Federation to keep the 2 "races" separate. Germany's Zionists were every bit as fanatical about preserving Jewish racial purity by preventing mixed marriages etc as many of the Nazis were. The Nazi agenda toward those Jews who were not helping Germany was to deport them, not exterminate them. If the Nazi agenda had been extermination, they would not have worked so closely with the German Zionist Federation to train, support and arm Jews for their life in Palestine(4). Probably the most compelling evidence against the outright frauds generated by the Hollywood - Holocaust Industry consortium is the lack of "mass graves" anywhere in Europe that is commensurate with the claimed number of people allegedly killed by the Nazis. For example, minions of the Hollywood - Holocaust Industry consortium believe without question that about 850,000 were murdered at Treblinka however numerous groups have searched extensively for them without finding even one of the many mass graves needed to contain 850,000 bodies(5). There is also a dearth of mass graves or other tangible remains at all the other alleged "death camps" I hope that I have adequately addressed your assertion and look forward to your response. (*) "Was there Really a Holocaust?" https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm EXCERPT "The World Almanac for 1947 states that back in 1939 the world Jewish population was 15,688,259. The Almanac's figures were supplied by the American Jewish Committee. Next the Jewish-owned New York Times of February 22, 1948 stated the world Jewish population for that year amounted "to 15,600,000 to 18,700,000 in addition to the 600,000 to 700,000 living in Palestine." How could the Jewish population increase so rapidly over the war years if they had lost 6,000,000 people?"CONTINUED (1) "List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent EXCERPT "Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent."CONTINUED (2) “Hitler’s Jewish Army” http://counterpsyops.com/2013/02/14/...-hitlers-army/ EXCERPT “Thousands of men of Jewish descent and hundreds of what the Nazis called ‘full Jews’ served in the German military with Adolf Hitler’s knowledge and approval. In approximately 20 cases, Jewish soldiers in the Nazi army were awarded(*)Germany’s highest military honor, the Knight’s Cross. Jews also served in the Nazi police and security forces as ghetto police(Ordnungdienst)(*)and concentration camp guards(*)(kapos). So what happens to the claim that Hitler sought to exterminate all Jews, when he allowed some of them to join in his struggle against Bolshevism and International finance capitalism? “If the Jews were permitted to serve in Hitler’s armed forces then there could not have been a Holocaust.”CONTINUED (3) “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.” - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190 (4) Zionism and the Third Reich https://www.ihr.org/jhr/v13/v13n4p29_Weber.html EXCERPT "In cooperation with the German authorities, Zionist groups organized a network of some forty camps and agricultural centers throughout Germany where prospective settlers were trained for their new lives in Palestine. Although the Nuremberg Laws forbid Jews from displaying the German flag, Jews were specifically guaranteed the right to display the blue and white Jewish national banner. The flag that would one day be adopted by Israel was flown at the Zionist camps and centers in Hitler's Germany. /19 Himmler's security service cooperated with the Haganah, the Zionist underground military organization in Palestine. The SS agency paid Haganah official Feivel Polkes for information about the situation in Palestine and for help in directing Jewish emigration to that country. Meanwhile, the Haganah was kept well informed about German plans by a spy it managed to plant in the Berlin headquarters of the SS. /20 Haganah-SS collaboration even included secret deliveries of German weapons to Jewish settlers for use in clashes with Palestinian Arabs" CONTINUED (5) “Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust” https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363 EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves."CONTINUED
Throughout this thread, I have noted numerous other facts that prove that the long slandered Germans did not and could not have executed a genocidal agenda during the WW2 era. I will list just a few here to save you from reading my previous posts which list even more. - Neither Churchill, de Gaulle nor Eisenhower felt that what has only recently been named THE Holocaust was horrific enough to include in their extensive WW2 post war books. Nowhere do they mention a genocidal German agenda. - Perhaps most noteworthy, there was no mention of a systematic and industrial extermination plan or homicidal gas chambers in any of the intercepted German radio transmissions(1) nor did the Germans have a secret code or communicate telepathically. - Unlike Stalin, Mao, Churchill & Eisenhower, there is no written order from Hitler for the destruction of any group of people.(2) - If the Nazis had been determined to wipe out all of Europe's Jews, there would not have been any Jewish members of the Nazi Party and Jewish soldiers would not have comprised 150,000 members of Hitler's armies. - The original and most credible 1946 Red Cross report makes no mention of homicidal gas chambers or a genocidal agenda. - Countless truthful Holocaust survivors make no mention of homicidal gas chambers or a genocidal agenda.(3) - Thousands of freed camp inmates interviewed by both the Vatican and the Red Cross made no mention of homicidal gas chambers.(4) - The fraudulent Holocaust Industry-Lobby has been caught in numerous outright deceptions such as altered photos, forged documents and other attempts to fool gullible individuals.(5) - Countless phony "Holocaust survivors" have succeeded in deceiving millions of people with grotesque fictions about German sadism and mass murder.(6) Again, I do not deny that after "Judea's" declaration of war on Germany(7) Germany's National Socialists incarcerated some of Europe's Jews whom they perceived as threats to Germany very much like the US incarcerated America's Japanese citizens that were viewed as potential threats too. Unlike the well supplied US internment camps, the poorly supplied German work camps were plagued by typhus and related epidemics which were the primary killers, not fictitious, steam, electrocution and gas chambers. I simply feel that the German people have been wrongfully slandered, extorted and tormented for grossly exaggerated crimes by the vengeful Allies and the fraudulent Hollywood - Holocaust Industry consortium( that crassly profits from perpetuating grotesque lies about a painful era. (1). “THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE” https://archive.org/stream/BreakingTheSpell_48/BreakingTheSpell-Kollerstrom_djvu.txt EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted. Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative. The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED (2) “To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.” - Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190 (3). "Auschwitz Was NOT a 'Death Camp' - Holocaust Survivor Testimony" https://archive.org/details/AuschwitzWasNotAdeathCamp-HolocaustSurvivorTestimony EXCERPT "Investigations of physical evidence and original documentation, however, have cast doubts on the Holocaust narrative that has been formed. For example, areas claimed to be mass graves, have been found with modern investigative technology to contain no human remains. Testimonies of accused perpetrators show evidence of outright fabrication, or were obtained through torture. Many of the supposed eyewitnesses have provided stories riddled by inconsistencies, describe physically impossible events, or were even total frauds who were never actually in the camps." CONTINUED (4) “The Problems of Mass Gassing” http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/05/was-there-really-a-judaic-holocaust/ EXCERPT "The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946)." CONTINUED (5) "Zionists Fake Holocaust Cremation Deaths Using 35 Year-Old Train Wreck Images" https://nodisinfo.com/zionists-holocaust-cremation-deaths-ohio-train-wreck-images/ EXCERPT "So, it is that there is not only no evidence for it, but in fact, there is evidence fully against it, proving it to be a lie. Here is the proof of the fake, the star imagery of the dog and pony show, the supposed open-pit cremation of naked, dead Jews. There were no Jews there. This is a fake. The corpses were put in artificially. The image has nothing to do with the war or post-war period. It’s not even from Germany but rather from the United States"CONTINUED (6) "Could there be anything more twisted than these Holocaust fantasists? How more and more people are making up memoirs about witnessing Nazi crimes" https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...le-making-memoirs-witnessing-Nazi-crimes.html EXCERPT "Unfortunately, despite all these examples, publishers are still wilfully selling suspect memoirs based on the Holocaust and the war. No doubt there will be more books of this type. With publishers fighting it out to sell the latest tale of World War II derring-do, or Holocaust misery, it seems unlikely this is a genre that will die out. Anybody reading these books should stop and ask themselves whether what they hold in their hands is, in fact, true." CONTINUED (7) "Full text of "Jews Declare War On Germany 1933" https://archive.org/stream/JewsDecl...304/Jews declare war on Germany 1933_djvu.txt EXCERPT "Long before the Hitler government began restricting the rights of the German Jews, the leaders of the worldwide Jewish community formally declared war on the "New Germany" at a time when the U.S. government and even the Jewish leaders in Germany were urging caution in dealing with the new Hitler regime."CONTINUED ( "The Hollywood Directors Who Filmed the Liberation of Nazi Concentration Camps" https://hyperallergic.com/426644/lamoth-filming-the-camps-the-holocaust/ EXCERPT "George Stevens, John Ford, and Samuel Fuller, best known for their work in Hollywood, all documented the Allied liberation at the end of the war. But during this period of war, they were acting less as artists than as functionaries of US propaganda and information efforts, working for the US Armed Forces and Secret Services.CONTINUED
Thank you, dear Grau, for your untiring dedication to help liberate the Germans from their burden of never ending guilt placed upon them by the victors of WWII. You are lucky to live in the United States where you are still able to speak freely. In most countries in Europe, plus Canada, you get thrown into jail for a minimum of five years, if you so much as doubt the stories and numbers or just talk about it in public! "If the holocaust were publicly exposed as a shameless fraud, if people all over the world learned that, while the Jews undoubtedly were persecuted during the Second World War, there was no attempt to exterminate them, that the death factories, gas chambers and gas vans were a Jewish swindle, and that the six million figure was a fantastic exaggeration, the Zionist-led "New World Order" would be all but finished." Read here: http://chemtrailsgeelong.com/holo-hoax.html
I'll stick with Yitzhak Arad's excellent book on the Operation Reinhardt camps, and forego wasting time on neo-Nazi rubbish.
In other words, you can't refute a single fact that I've written and supported. Where did I write anything that could even remotely be considered "neo-Nazi rubbish"? I doubt that Yitzhak Arad's "excellent book" explains why no mass graves have been found at Treblinka(1), (2), (3) for example. (1)“Treblinka: Revealing the hidden graves of the Holocaust” https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-16657363 EXCERPT “Despite this, in a later statement they said they had discovered no mass graves."CONTINUED (2) CHAPTER 15: TREBLINKA https://thesixmillionfactorfiction.blogspot.com/2018/01/chapter-15-treblinka.html EXCERPT "Ground penetration radar analysis has failed to detect any of the claimed “mass graves” which are supposed to litter the area. Just like Chelmno, Belzec, and Sobibór—here at Treblinka, “conveniently,” everything is gone—a fact which makes it easy to invent all manner of lurid claims without having to even try and justify them. The allegations of mass murder at Treblinka become even more bizarre when it is considered that there were only 50 SS men at Treblinka. To claim that 50 men, with the assistance of a tank engine, could kill 850,000 people in a year and remove all traces is utterly bizarre and an obvious lie." CONTINUED (3)"Treblinka Ground Radar Examination Finds No Trace of Mass Graves" https://www.historiography-project.com/jhrchives/v19/v19n3p20_radar.php EXCERPT "The team carefully examined the entire Treblinka II site, especially the alleged “mass graves” portion, and carried out control examinations of the surrounding area. They found no soil disturbance consistent with the burial of hundreds of thousands of bodies, or even evidence that the ground had ever been disturbed. In addition, Krege and his team found no evidence of individual graves, bone remains, human ashes, or wood ashes." CONTINUED
Hello, Grau; I have been reading in one of your links and am wondering WHY did the Jewish authorities allow such thorough ground examinations IF they knew full well there existed no such mass graves at all?? They could have insisted on the sacredness of the dead and forbidden any digging at all. Do you have an explanation for their cooperation? Also, there existed a certain guard at the Treblinka complex who, in his confessions, reversed the two buildings and said, the killing was done at Treblinka I, not II. If true, then naturally there wouldn't be any corpses to be found in the # II area. Section 96: The “Evidence” of “Treblinka Guard” Paval Leleko For example: 1. Leleko changed the order of the camps: Treblinka I became the “death camp” instead of the “labor camp” and vice versa: “Question: Describe the exterior appearance of the camp? “Answer: The Treblinka camp is divided into two parts: Camp no. 1, or as the prisoners called it, the “death camp,” and the worker’s camp, called Camp no. 2. The camps were situated at a distance of some 2–3 km from each other.” Read here: https://thesixmillionfactorfiction.blogspot.com/2018/01/chapter-15-treblinka.html It is, to say the least, very interesting that there are no clear and precise statements from the many survivors. Why is there so much room for doubt and confusion? IF the Germans killed some 800 000 prisoners, shouldn't the Jews just shout it out and show the world the evidence in the mass graves? The Germans lay defeated on the ground and could not have stopped them from taking photos, or have the Red Cross there to witness, as well as other persons from neutral countries. To kill that many innocent people in one spot is a horrendous crime and should be made visible to the world, don't you think? Instead they write books, one after another, make movies, build monuments across the world, form associations to hunt any German SS soldier, to require 17 countries to enact laws that forbid discussing the holocaust or any aspect of it (see Haverbeck over 90 in jail!!), organizing school trips to places like Auschwitz, forcing all schools in the western world to teach children about the Holocaust. If it is in textbooks and taught in school, how can it not be true?
Historicity Hitler's use of the expression The source of the big lie technique is this passage, taken from Chapter 10 of James Murphy's translation of Mein Kampf (the quote is one paragraph in Murphy's translation and in the German original): But it remained for the Jews, with their unqualified capacity for falsehood, and their fighting comrades, the Marxists, to impute responsibility for the downfall precisely to the man who alone had shown a superhuman will and energy in his effort to prevent the catastrophe which he had foreseen and to save the nation from that hour of complete overthrow and shame. By placing responsibility for the loss of the world war on the shoulders of Ludendorff they took away the weapon of moral right from the only adversary dangerous enough to be likely to succeed in bringing the betrayers of the Fatherland to Justice. All this was inspired by the principle—which is quite true within itself—that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation. For the grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down, a fact which is known to all expert liars in this world and to all who conspire together in the art of lying. — Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, vol. I, ch. X[1] Hitler was a prophet
