Illinois teen arrested in fatal shooting at Kenosha protest, police say

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  1. Nightmare515

    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    As a black person who has openly carried a firearm in public on more occasions than I can count and have failed to ever be shot by the police while doing so I believe your statement is incorrect. I have also been pulled over by the police before with a firearm in my vehicle in clear line of sight and I wasn't shot by the police. Last week alone I was approached by the police while sitting down eating my lunch on the tailgate of my truck while out fishing with a revolver on my hip and I wasn't shot by the police.

    Earlier this summer by buddies and I were out at a random area dismantling old household junk via 7.62, 5.56, and 6.5 grendel rounds from our various rifles and an off duty cop showed up. Not only did he not shoot us, he said he stopped because he heard a distinct report from the shots going off and wanted to see what rifle it was. He really liked my buddies custom AR chambered in 6.5 Grendel. He let him shoot it. He was happy.

    But by all means lets continue the narrative that black Americans will be murdered by the police for the crime of simply existing in America while black. I've managed to live my entire life and not have that problem, including growing up in the rebel deep south where supposedly that's REALLY a problem. I guess all the cops and small town folks that are supposed to be racist just never got the memo that they are supposed to shoot or hang me for breathing.
     
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    Good for him.

    Now he's alive instead of dead or in a coma.

    **** your mobs.
     
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    Ironic, considering how much time leftists don't spend condemning the violent mobs burning down cities and trying to kill people.

    No.

    What you're worried about is when people are able to defend themselves.

    Thanks for proving my point.
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yeah I mean next time someone out burning down buildings and setting parking lots on fire runs into a guy with a gun, it would be perfectly reasonable for them to surround him like a pack of ****ing hyenas and try to kill him.

    Other than the dozens of people the mobs have killed or put into comas, they've been mostly peaceful arson and looting.

    Makes total sense when you explain it that way.
     
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    Wish in one hand and ish in the other one and see which one fills up the fastest.

    That would be like leading the canary to the cat.
     
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    If you had shot and killed 2 people and walked towards two police military vehicles with your arms up and a semi-automatic rifle swinging from your shoulder, do you think the police would just pass you by? If bystanders were shouting to the police "He just shot someone!!" would the police ignore you?
     
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    Right now? Probably. The same way the police are ignoring the thousands of people, many of whom share my same skin color, who are actively committing arson, looting, and destruction right in front of them while they stand there with their arms folded.

    But to directly answer your question, I have no idea. I have never shot and killed two people and walks towards the police. The kids skin color may have played a part in that, it may not have. The fact is that you have zero evidence to back up the claim and since you are the one making the claim the burden of actually proving it factually is on you.

    The correct answer is I don't know, and neither do you or anyone else.
     
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    Regarding self defense and the incident in question I recall this movie dialog.

    Lee Marvin: What did you see sergeant?
    Richard Jaeckel (aka Sgt Bowren): I saw the major attacked and forced to defend himself, Sir.
     
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    Just like the idiot Zimmerman neighborhood watch geek and policeman wannabe.
     
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    His single mom must be.
     
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    Do you wish the same for the criminals burning down the cities and the private property of law abiding citizens beating and assaulting innocent people including killing. Did you really expect the violence to be on just the left. These leftest anarchist are bringing us to a civil war in the streets of our cities. This is a result of that. So what are we going to do about it?
     
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    Oh geeez you didn't really post that did you?
     
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    Want to know one reason our cities are burning and a civil war beginning in our streets?

    Let's look how Reuter's reported this.
    https://news.trust.org/item/20200827221113-nfin0

    "The protests started after Jacob Blake was shot multiple times in the back by a police officer on Sunday afternoon."

    Jacob Blake was just standing around minding his own business and a police officer just shot him in the back. Out of the blue the police officer just shot him in the back like a dog. An innocent man gun downed by a police officer.

    Let's write the correct storyline. On Sunday afternoon a man wanted on felony warrants for sexual assault began threatening neighbors taking the keys of one and refusing to give them back. The police were called to the scene having been advised he was a wanted criminal and being advised of his previous assaults with a lethal weapon. On their arrival the man who was threatening neighbor fought to the ground with the police and displayed a knife. The police backed off and attempted to TASER the criminal but the TASER failed. The criminal then attempt to leave and opened the door of the vehicle he was driving and appeared to be reaching for another weapon of some sort. The police ended the situation by firing on the criminal who was taken to a local hospital and is under treatment expect to live. Additional charges on the criminal pending.

    It is because of these lies of omission the MSM and Democrats and Leftist are engaged that are throwing the gasoline on an already raging fire. Maybe a little truth in reporting could help stop the anarchy and brewing civil war.
     
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    Hire more police, then deploy them to deal with demonstrations.
    Elect decent people with a spine interested in social justice. There's something amiss is this country on both sides.

    Here is Canadian Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau fifty years ago talking to reporters about his crackdown after French Canadian separatists kidnapped the Quebec labor minister and a British diplomat. Seriously, watch the whole six minute video. Trudeau knew exactly what he was doing, to whom, and for what reason. They had a constitutional federal democracy, a system of government Canadians fought in WW1, WW2, and Korea to protect. Trudeau signaled clearly he intended to protect it.

    Trudeau was the author of changed social values that persist in Canada to this very day. He wasn't an authoritarian like a Trump type might become. He patriated the Canadian constitution from the UK and created a Canadian bill-of-rights, the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. It's the first section of the Constitution Act, 1982.



    Be sure to watch Trudeau and the reporter. There won't be one thing Trudeau says you won't agree with.
    We should be making common cause on this issue. Trudeau got it exactly right. We want a strong government, but not one that uses the power to take away rights.
    There was no need treat a toothache with a jackhammer. Support strengthening good police.
    The place to deal with it is the ballot box. There is no emergency that justifies acting outside the law.
    You can vote out pols not doing the job.
     
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    I agree, blue lives matter is a terrorist organization
     
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    Impossible, trump said that violence in cities would end when he won!
    Can you believe he’s trying that again??
    The fact this article doesn’t understand that having a warrant doesn’t make you guilty, discredits whatever BS follows
     
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    Trials are the way we settle things.
     
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    Are Blue Lives Matter supporters out there burning down cities and assaulting people?
     
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    Put all the police on furlough pending defunding them.

    Go ahead.
     
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    The kid with the gun made the first threats by pointing the gun. It's arguable that the skateboard guy stood his ground.
     
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    Hopefully the prosecution will take your advice.
     
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    Yah one just gunned down 3 in Wisconsin
     
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    That sounds like a terrible idea. I’d rather they just stop gunning people down.
     
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    In republican America you’re supposed to assume that a white man who points a gun at you is really you’re friend.
     

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