Why rushing to fill RGB's SCOTUS seat may not be in Repubs best interest

I understand that McConnell is one shrewd dude, but he might not be seeing the forest for the trees on this, given he feels he is compelled, by his constituents, to fill the seat right way, but is it actually in the republicans best interest? Not so sure about that.

Of course, it would be in Dems interest, but just maybe, both interests coincide, ya think?

Well, maybe not.


https://www.chicagotribune.com/colu...0200919-ulvl6pu2qbckpppu523u2gxmdi-story.html

What the GOP would gain by waiting to fill Ruth Bader Ginsburg’s Supreme Court seat

No one expects Trump or all 53 GOP senators to do anything merely because it is wise, principled or respectful of democratic norms. But maybe they’ll do the right thing to protect their own political interests.

It’s widely assumed that the president will soon announce a nominee and urge quick Senate action. But if Trump and his advisers are focused on his reelection, the shrewd choice would be to do the opposite — telling the public that now would be an inappropriate moment to send a name to the Senate. Trump could say instead: “On Nov. 3, the American people will vote. Until then, I will not address the Supreme Court vacancy.”

What would he gain from this option? First, he would avoid a ferocious battle in the Senate that would most likely jeopardize several incumbent Republicans who are running this year. Second, he would avoid branding himself and his party as the rankest of hypocrites. Instead, he would look almost statesmanlike.

He would also give his supporters — and particularly anti-abortion voters — a powerful motive to turn out on Election Day. At the same time, though, Trump would avoid the risk of needlessly alienating those suburban women who are still undecided. The people who desperately want another conservative on the court are already voting for him. The ones on the fence, by contrast, are more likely to be alarmed by the idea of overturning Roe v. Wade.

And, noting that last one that is going to really get dems riled up and getting out the vote.

 

There is no way for Trump to avoid a ferocious battle in the Senate over anything.

 

I see lefties are trying their best to convince Republicans to not fill Ginsburgs seat....hahaha!

Your efforts are futile!

 

Yes, but we're talking about before the election. How wise is it to engage in such a battle at this time? That's the point.

 

Four (at least) Repub senators......Collins, Murkowski, Graham, Grassley, are on record saying they do not support a nominee being put forth or voted on for confirmation before the election.

 

Personally I think they should wait to fill the seat. It's a great campaign issue for Trump and will get everybody center to right of center out to vote. Nobody but the radical left wants another RBG in that spot and this is a huge opportunity for conservatives to swing the court our way.

 

Why rushing to fill RGB's SCOTUS seat may not be in Repubs best interest

It is more important than the election so your title is wrong.

 

If Senate Republicans are confident that Trump will be re-elected and they keep the Senate majority, they'll wait.
If Senate Republicans are confident that Trump will be kicked out in November, they'll push through a nominee.

You take your pick.

 

To many, having a conservative SCOTUS in long term is better than having presidency and/or senate. Getting a 6-3 majority with relatively young justices will outlive several presidents.

 

Well, as I said there will be ferocious battles in any event. If over a Court candidate I think that is more likely to help Trump rather than hurt. The Democrats lost a lot of support over their actions during the Kavanaugh hearings.

 

Why rushing to fill RGB's SCOTUS seat may not be in Repubs best interest. It is paramount now with the Democrats turning this election into a clown show. There is presently a five/four split with Roberts having gone over to the other side.

 

Absolutely 100% in agreement.

 

There is always a battle for confirmations. The point is whether it's wise to engage in that battle before or after the election. Personally, I don't think it will make any difference, but it could effect the Senate races.

 

republicans said we should let the voters decide

 

I agree. The middle will not appreciate this dramatic reversal of opinion on this. They may get the SCOTUS seat, but lose their individual races.

 

There is nothing to gain by waiting. I am behind Trump because of the judges he is nominating.

 

the middle understands that the Biden Rule caused division and McConnell was right to change it

 

It's fair to live with a one judge minority, one side has to be the majority.

But, a 6/3 court is not in the country's best interest, because the 3, in this case, would represent the majority, and with only 3, the majority's voice would never be accommodated.


Given that

2,868,676 more votes were cast for Democrats in 2016, 9,710,275 more votes were cast for democrats in the house in 2018, and 17,537,638 more votes were cast for democrats in the senate in 2018,

The majority of the electorate wants democrats. So , if the court is 6/3 and you have six judges representing the minority, and only 3 representing the majority, that isn't fair.

That outcome is unacceptable., when only a year ago, repubs exclaimed that during the last year of a president's term if it is an election year, 'the people should decide"

except when the tides have turned, they realize that it is better to be a hypocrite, than to let 'the people' decide when the people are likely to vote Trump out of office.

Therefore, this outcome is not acceptable to democrats. And it is just.

Dems are going to use every 'arrow in their quiver' (says Pelosi ) to block this nomination.

She didn't specify what those arrows were, so, we shall see what develops

You are in the minority.

 

There is no biden 'rule'. During the year he was quoted, hearings were given, Biden's plea was not followed, but it was followed when repubs got power.

 

wrong there were no hearings because there was no opening to the court. Yes the GOP followed the Biden Rule but have since offered the Dems an olive branch and go rid of it because you all were so upset about it.

 

In the absence of filling Ginsburg's seat it's unlikely that enough Democrats would be brought on board with the idea of expanding court seats. But if the Senate and White House goes to Democrats, and if (when) Republicans fill Ginsburg's seat, expanding court seats will be in the Democratic mainstream. Once you're there, there's really nothing stopping them from adding four seats to the SC alone, let alone a host of lower courts.

This is the "radicalization" AOC was referring to.

 

It makes no sense for Trump to wait. Either he wins or not, but it is still his job to nominate someone. The Senate has a duty to their constituents. Not seeing a problem here. What I am seeing is that anything that makes liberals cry is generally a good thing for America...

 

https://twitter.com/vanitaguptaCR/s...-1st-term-shouldnt-fill-supreme-court-1533070

"I want you to use my words against me. If there’s a Republican president in 2016 and a vacancy occurs in the last year of the first term, you can say Lindsey Graham said let’s let the next president, whoever it might be, make that nomination."

 

maybe he changed his mind on the Biden Rule like the dems have agai

 

Now is the time, since Republicans have the Senate and Presidency....