Historical figures in LGBTQ rights ( other than Milk)

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    and I stand by that position. gay people do not need to be made into circus freaks.
     
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    Jeremy Bentham - English philosopher, social reformer and founder of utilitarianism. He was the first known legal advocate in the English Commonwealth for the decriminalization of homosexuality. In an essay written in the 1775 OFFENCES AGAINST ONE'S SELF: PAEDERASTY PART 1, Bentham categorizes the 'offenses of impurity' or sex crimes of the day, as 'irregularities of the venereal appetite', and dissects and refutes the arguments of the day for punishing homosexuality. The essay went unpublished for about 200 years. While the claim in the link I provide suggests this 1978 publication was the first, there are documented publications as early as 1931 and 1948 but these were not 'best sellers' .https://digitalcommons.unl.edu/cgi/...psredir=1&article=1057&context=englishfacpubs. Warning while this essay does in fact argue against homosexuality bans, it is very dense, very dry and very difficult for the modern reader to parse. Suffice it to say it is a LONG way from an endorsement of same and by our modern standard, more than a little offensive to sensibilities. To paraphrase this libertarian argument. Male homosexuality is repulsive, revolting and disgusting, but it does no harm to women as a class ( yes this was a worry back then), to society, or to government, so government should mind its own business.

    Hard to quantify the impact of this long buried policy position paper on gay rights advocacy so much later, other than to provide obvious credibility and gravitas that only a great thinker and philosopher can provide to a cause. Its an interest read and it means somebody in the late 1700's was actually giving governmental treatment of gays, some thought.




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    Michael Schofield - British pioneer of social research into homosexuality in the 1950s and 1960s, and a campaigner for the Homosexual Law Reform Society at a time before the Sexual Offences Act 1967 partially decriminalized homosexual activity in the UK. An author of multiple research texts, he was amongst the first researchers to approach homosexuality outside of a medical or legal framework. His concern was to investigate homosexual life as it was lived by ordinary homosexuals in everyday life. (his earlier works were published under the pseudonym Gordon Westwood to avoid prosecution and persecution)

    1. Society and the Homosexual ( 1952), an overview of the topic including early notes on the gay scene in England at that time.
    2. A Minority ( 1960) an original survey study of 127 men, and was the first of its kind. He asked them about their backgrounds, early homosexual experiences, attempts to combat, the extent of their homosexual acts, work and leisure and community integration.
    3. Sociological Aspects of Homosexuality
    (1965) a comparative study of heterosexuals and homosexuals along three dimensions: in prison, in treatment and others in the community.
    4. The Sexual Behaviour of Young People (1965) one of the earliest surveys of sexual behaviour in the U.K. and looked at the behaviour of young people. Five years later the same people were re-interviewed for a follow up in The Sexual Behaviour of Young Adults (1971)


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    Stephen Whittle - a British legal scholar and activist with the transgender activist group Press for Change.[1] Since 2007, he has been professor of Equalities Law in the School of Law at Manchester Metropolitan University.[2][3] Between 2007 and 2009, he was president of the World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) In 1974 Whittle came out as a FTM trans man, after returning from a women's Liberation Conference in Edinburgh, which he attended as a member of the Manchester Lesbian Collective. He began hormone replacement therapy in 1975.[8] He has been active in transsexual and transgender communities since the age of twenty when in 1975 he joined the Manchester TV/TS group In 1989, he founded the UK's FTM Network which he coordinated until November 2007. In 1992, he founded and became vice-president of Press for Change working to change the laws and social attitudes surrounding transgender and transsexual lives.

    Books
    1. Engendered Penalties: Transsexual and Transgender Experience of Inequality and Discrimination by Trans People ( 2007)
    2. A Transgender Studies Reader, New York & London: (2006)
    3 .Respect and Equality: Transsexual and Transgender Rights,(2002)
    4. The Transvestite, the Transsexual and the Law ( 1998)
    5. The Margins of the City: Gay Men's Urban Lives.

    Awards and honors
    Human Rights Award by the Civil Rights group Liberty
    Appointed Officer of the Order of the British Empire (OBE) "for services to Gender Issues".
    Virginia Prince Lifetime Achievement Award by the USA's International Federation for Gender Education



     
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    I doubt even Marshall ever said anything like this:

    “Bestiality is not my thing … But it seems to be a harmless foible or idiosyncrasy of some people. So, as long as the animal doesn’t mind (and the animal rarely does), I don’t mind, and I don’t see why anyone else should.”​

    You also left out Kameny's Mattachine comrade Harry Hay and leftist literary icon Allen Ginsberg, both of whom were adamant supporters of NAMBLA.
     
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    Kimitake Hiraoka ( Pen Name -Yukio Mishima) - Japanese author, poet, playwright, actor, model, film director, right wing nationalist/ fascist, and founder of the Tatenokai. Mishima is considered one of the most important, albeit controversial Japanese authors of the 20th century,

    He wrote Confessions of a Mask, published in 1949, it launched him into fame. Its a semi-autobiographical account of a young homosexual who must hide behind a mask to fit into society. The novel was extremely successful and made Mishima a celebrity. Its protagonist, Kochan, a closeted young gay boy, bullied among his peers, he struggles with his homosexuality into adulthood, tries to force himself into a marriage with woman, but cannot feel either a romantic or sexual attraction to her. He comes to believe that Japanese society forces masks on all, even if the mask hides something else.

    Wrote Forbidden Colors 1957 - a novel serialized into two parts . Its protagonists were Sunshuke , an aging and manipulative gay man and Yuishe, a young questioning youth driven to seek marriage to gain financial security, and encouraged to have gay relationships on the down low. These were wildly popular novels in Japan and become international successes. It may be first novel to have a gay bar as a central locale

    These frank and unyielding portraits of closeted men, both gay and bisexual were the first to describe and portray the personal and social consequences of homophobia in detail including misogyny.
     
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    James Baldwin, author, essayist and the Train Lasts activist. He wrote Giovanni's Room, an early and explicit portrayal of a bisexual man, David and his lover Giovanni ( eventually executed). In it, Baldwin tackles social isolation, gender and sexual identity crisis, as well as conflicts of masculinity within this story of a young bisexual man navigating the public sphere in a society that rejects a core aspect of his sexuality. It includes early depictions of queer places, and the identity conflict between bisexuality and homosexuality.

    He also wrote Another Country, and Tell Me How Long, both of which likewise have bisexual characters,
     
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    Axel and Eigil Axgil - Danish gay activists and a longtime couple. Inspired by the 1948 UN Declaration of Human Rights, together with several friends, founded F-48 or Forbundet af 1948 (The Association of 1948), Denmark's first gay rights organization They were the first gay couple to enter into a registered partnership anywhere in the world following Denmark's legalisation of same-sex partnership registration in 1989, a landmark legislation which they were instrumental in bringing about.
    1. founded the National Homosexual Association, one of the oldest gay rights groups in Europe.
    2. Along with Knude Rame, founded Vennen the first Danish gay newspaper.

    3. Campaigned for same sex couple registration (civil unions) which culminated in their being chosen as the first couple in history anywhere to receive such legal status
    4. worked with Hans Christian Thaysen and British human-rights campaigner Peter Tatchell to o expose the Danish Nazi war criminal, Dr Carl Vaernet, who had been involved in hormone experiments to create a supposed "cure" for gay prisoners in Buchenwald.
     
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    Rubbish thread. even the title betrays the fact that the practitioners of homosexual fetishism know they're actually mentally ill, because they use euphemisms like 'gay' to avoid referring to themselves as what they are: homosexual fetishists.
     
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    I picked the title. I chose the word 'gay' because dictionaries like Merriam-Webster say this about the word. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gay
    Definition of gay
    (Entry 1 of 3)

    1a: of, relating to, or characterized by sexual or romantic attraction to people of one's same sex gay men // a gay woman in her 40s—often used to refer to men only gay and lesbian members of the community
    b: of, relating to, or intended for people who are gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, etc.the gay rights movement, a gay bar.

    https://www.dictionary.com/browse/gay
    of, relating to, or exhibiting sexual desire or behavior directed toward a person or persons of one's own sex :a gay couple.

    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/gay

    gay adjective (SEXUALITY)
    sexually attracted to people of the same sex and not to people of the opposite sex:
    gay rights
    Mark knew he was gay by the time he was fourteen.
    the gay and lesbian community
    Compare
    homosexual adjective
    same-sex
    https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/definition/english/gay_1
    (of people, especially men) sexually attracted to people of the same sex SYNONYM homosexual
    • gay men
    • I didn't know he was gay.
    • Is she gay?
    • He is openly gay.
    OPPOSITE straight


    See the thing about language is that it changes over the decades. It evolves and one of the words who's usage has evolved is 'gay'. It WAS a slang derived euphemism in the 1960's. Not one of of these modern references refers to gay as slang or a euphemism for anything outside of a narrow usage as an adjective for 'bad' or 'stupid' among some generation 'Xers'. Now it is listed as a synonym for homosexual by such distinguished lexicographers as Oxford, Cambridge, and Merriam Webster will employ. Matter of fact, 'homosexual' is described as a synonym for 'gay' in these same sources!

    Now I will let you consult with the AMA and the APA to learn what else has evolved with regard to the diagnosis of mental illness based on sexual orientation.
     
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    Rather stupid semantics; the word is typical of communist propaganda tactics re the media; the Peanut Gallery can amuse themselves by reading Antonio Gramsci's works on how to conduct a culture war by false re-labeling of words. That it's a commie tactic should be no surprise to anybody who has done their homework on this fake 'Movement' and know that Harry Hay was a card carrying Communist Party member as well as a fan of NAMBLA, and rumored to be a 'founder' of that criminal gang as well. NAMBLA was a proud and adored member of the ILGA for over 14 years. Even when Jesse Helms raised a stink about their membership in the ILGA when Bill Clinton was considering approving their UN NGO status in 1994, they actually felt they had to be 'fair' to criminal pedophiles and hold a vote before expelling them for appearances sake, some 10% of the ILGA membership voted to keep them in. What would happen to any other 'Movement' or political organization if 10% of its members voted in favor of pedophiles?

    It's a euphemism, not 'slang', and we know why homosexual fetishists want to misrepresent themselves.

    Already know about it; it was a 3 year long mau mau campaign by homosexual fetishists with insider help in targeting any psychiatrist who opposed the political agenda with harassment and ruin if they didn't play along with the 'activists', no different than we see with BLM today, also a commie front. The vote was some 5,800 'For' caving in to the radicals, some 3,800 'Against', out of some 20,000+ members, i.e. less than half voted at all, and only a little over 25% voted 'For', under pressure. Of course this makes it clear it had nothing to with 'Science' but a group of cowardly 'professionals' letting themselves be cowed by a bunch of mentally ill radicals.
     
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    I knew this was a mistake. Never feed a troll. They just come back for seconds and thirds.
     
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    Jack Doroshow aka Mother Flawless Sabrina https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/obituaries/jack-doroshow-drag-pageant-impresario-dies-at-78.html Drag show and pageant organizer, actor and mentor for transvestites, transexuals and queer and gay youth in New York, took the marginalized and hidden world of Drag Queen entertainment out of the shadows, provided it a measure of exposure, profitability and legitimacy by creating a series of regional 'pageants', years before the artform and personalities hit the mainstream American audience. Jack's older alter ego 'Flawless Sabrina' was created to built trust among the ethnically diverse, jaded and competitive strands of the Drag and trans community and worked as a liaison between it and law enforcement, and established authorities in New York throughout the 60's and 70's. His influence reached its zenith with distribution of the filmhttps://www.newyorker.com/culture/the-front-row/the-queen-the-documentary-that-went-behind-the-scenes-of-a-drag-pageant-years-before-paris-is-burning
     
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    More on Mother Flawless Sabrina. Its important to point out that the bulk of these endeavors was years before Stonewall, when crossdressing was a criminal offense, even serving alcohol to a 'known homosexual' was a citation. Her first pagaent was in 1959 outside the city limits, in the 'boonies' where such entertainment had hopes of staying out of vice squad interest.

    In later years, Mother Flawless applied her influence as a mentor, maternal figure and ally to two generations of drag queens, gay youth and transgender , offering her support to both charitable and for profit ventures.
     
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    : A non practicing member as a Barrister, lobbyist, licensed counselor and author, In 1958, Antony Grey started as early advocate for reform of the British sodomy statutes consistent with the Wolfenden Report. Grey was a volunteer for the Homosexual Law Reform Society who helped lobby and push for the eventual adoption of the Sexual Offenses Act of1967, legalizing the private homosexual conduct among people 21 years or older and repealing two preexisting anti-gay statutes which had been used for decades to convict Oscar Wilde and Lord Montagu bisexual Conservative party member of the House of Lords among others.

    In 1958 Grey founded the Albany Trust, a charitable trust designed to provide training and education to lawyers, social workers counselors, and psycho- therapists working with LBGTQ clients, challenge discriminatory or homophobic attitudes, and promote a better understanding of the community. It still exists and continues to do the same work with the same mission today.

    "He worked with (and often served on the committees of) a number of voluntary organisations including the National Council for Civil Liberties (now Liberty), the British Association for Counselling and Physiotherapy, the National Association of Voluntary Hostels, the Josephine Butler Society, and the Defence of Literature and the Arts Society. He obtained a diploma in counselling skills from the South West London College in 1981.

    In 1998 he was awarded the Pink Paper Lifetime Achievement Award and in 2007 he was elected as Hero of the Year by Stonewall supporters.

    He was included under "Unsung heroes" in the Independent on Sunday's Pink List 2008. The citation said:

    "Antony Grey, former secretary of the Homosexual Law Reform Society, which won a change in the law in 1967. He argued, unsuccessfully, for equalising the age of consent for gay people to 16, in line with heterosexuals, when the law was changed in 1994. The age of consent for gay men was eventually lowered to 16 in 2001. Now in his 80s, Mr Grey has never received an honour. "[4]
     
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    Gaetan Dugas 'Patient Zero'- Canadian Quebequois airline attendant. This candidate for entry is most unusual because his impact on gay history was significant yet unintended on his part, and because he has been wrongly portrayed as one of the worst gay villains in North American history all because he went out of his way to cooperate with the CDC and because best selling author and book editor exploited a nascient urban myth to trick the New York Post into providing inflammatory and sensational coverage of a book on politics behind AIDS.
     
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    Who is Milk?
     
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    Yes, it's pretty much impossible to refute the history and the facts, so pretend it never happened.

    Another pederast who preyed on homeless teenagers and made into a 'Hero' by homosexual activists.
     
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    Let's not forget Mathew Sheppard, another 'Martyred Hero' alleged to have been 'murdered and crucified by Da Evul Xians', only to find out he was just a dope dealer killed by his homosexual buddies over a drug deal, and the reason his parents didn't ask for the death penalty was because then the defense attorneys could subpoena his juvenile arrest records involving 2 8-year-old boys when he was 16. There is even a play touring the country still lying about who killed the degenerate.
     
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    What about "Milk" now?
    No answer?
     
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    I have been negligent. Per Wiki:
    John Eastburn Boswell (March 20, 1947 – December 24, 1994) was an American historian, author and a full professor at Yale University. Many of Boswell's studies focused on the issue of religion and homosexuality, specifically Christianity and homosexuality. All of his work focused on the history of those at the margins of society.
    Author of 1. :Christianity, Social Tolerance, and Homosexuality (1980) is a work which, offered a revolutionary interpretation of the Western tradition, arguing that the Roman Catholic Church had not condemned gay people throughout its history, but rather, at least until the twelfth century, had alternately evinced no special concern about homosexuality or actually celebrated love between men." The book won a National Book Award[3][a] and the Stonewall Book Award in 1981, but Boswell's thesis was criticized by Warren Johansson, Wayne R. Dynes, and John Lauritsen, who believed that he had attempted to whitewash the historic crimes of the Christian Church against gay men.[4]
    2.The Marriage of Likeness: Same-Sex Unions in Pre-Modern Europe (New York: Villard, 1994) argues that the adelphopoiia liturgy was evidence that the attitude of the Christian church towards homosexuality has changed over time, and that early Christians did on occasion accept same-sex relationships.[5]
    Rites of so-called "same-sex union" (Boswell's proposed translation) occur in ancient prayer-books of both the western and eastern churches. They are rites of adelphopoiesis, literally Greek for the making of brothers. Boswell stated that these should be regarded as sexual unions similar to marriages. Boswell made many detailed translations of these rites in Same-Sex Unions, and stated that one mass gay wedding occurred only a couple of centuries ago in the Archbasilica of Saint John Lateran, the cathedral seat of the Pope as Bishop of Rome. This is a highly controversial point of Boswell's text, as other scholars have dissenting views of this interpretation, and believe that they were instead rites of becoming adopted brothers, or "blood brothers.

    Boswell's methodology and conclusions have been disputed by many historians but his scholarship in both history, theology and philosophy was undoubtedly a progenator of the modern gay and queer studies programs in American universities.
     
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    Per Wiki:
    William Dorsey Swann
    (March 1860 – c. December 23, 1925) Swann is known as the first drag queen. As a black gay man, Swann paved the way for future drag queens and gay men of color. His legal efforts sparked a conversation about the LGBTQ+ community and may have even been one of the first instances of LGBTQ+ activism in the United States. There was little support at the time of his activism, and the ideas were not widespread. He helped lay the foundation for future activists such as Marsha P. Johnson and others who fought during the "modern LGBTQ rights movements", Swann was the first person in the United States to lead a queer resistance group and the first known person to self-identify as a "queen of drag".
    During the 1880s and 1890s, Swann organized a series of drag balls in Washington, D.C. He called himself the "queen of drag". Most of the attendees of Swann's gatherings were men who were formerly enslaved who gathered to dance in their satin and silk dresses. This group, consisting of "former slaves and rebel drag queens", was known as the "House of Swann".[7] Because these events were secretive, invitations were often quietly made at places like the YMCA. Swann participated in dances such as the cakewalk, a dance performed by enslaved people in America, mimicking the mannerisms of plantation owners. The cakewalk's improvisational movements and subtle expressions of communication resemble voguing, the style popularized in Harlem's ball scene.

    Swann was arrested in police raids numerous times, including in the first documented case of an arrest for female impersonation in the United States on April 12, 1888. This occurred at Swann's thirtieth birthday celebration. According to The Washington Post, he was "arrayed in a gorgeous dress of cream-colored satin". After police raided the birthday celebration, Swann was "bursting with rage", as he stood up to one of the arresting officers and declared, "You is no gentleman".
    Swann's choice to resist that night "rather than to submit passively to his arrest marks one of the earliest-known instances of violent resistance in the name of gay rights".[4] Twelve other African-American men were arrested at the raid. As many as seventeen others escaped that night. The arrests made at Swann's parties were published in the local newspapers, so townsfolk risked their reputation by attending. However, "acts of public shaming like this one are the only reason we now know who Swann was. The identities and stories of the men who escaped capture have been lost to history."

    This public shaming made it more difficult for Swann to throw parties secretly. In 1896, he was convicted of "keeping a disorderly house", a euphemism for running a brothel, and was sentenced to 10 months in jail. After his sentencing, he requested a pardon from President Grover Cleveland. This request was denied, but Swann was the first American on record who pursued legal and political action to defend the LGBTQ community's right to gather.
     
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    Fred "Fritz" Klein (December 27, 1932 – May 24, 2006) was an Austrian-born American psychiatrist and sex researcher who studied bisexuals and their relationships. He was an author and editor, as well as the developer of the Klein Sexual Orientation Grid, a scale that measures an individual's sexual orientation. Klein believed that sexual orientation could change over the course of a lifetime and that researchers underestimated the number of men that had sexual interactions with both sexes. Fritz Klein founded the American Institute of Bisexuality in 1998, which is continuing his work by sponsoring bisexual-inclusive sex research, educating the general public on sexuality, and promoting bisexual culture and community.
    He devised the Klein Sexual Orientation Grid, a multi-dimensional system for describing complex sexual orientation, similar to the "zero-to-six" scale Kinsey scale used by Alfred Kinsey, but measuring seven different vectors of sexual orientation and identity (sexual attractions, sexual behavior, sexual fantasies, emotional preference, social preference, lifestyle and self-identification) separately, as they relate person's past, present and ideal future.

    Klein published The Bisexual Option: A Concept of One Hundred Percent Intimacy in 1978, based on his research. He also co-authored The Male, His Body, His Sex in 1978. Klein moved to San Diego in 1982. He published Bisexualities: Theory and Research in 1986. In 1998 he founded the American Institute of Bisexuality (AIB), also known as the Bisexual Foundation or the Bi Foundation, to encourage, support and assist research and education about bisexuality. Klein also founded the Journal of Bisexuality. He remained the Journal's principal editor until his death. He published Bisexual and Gay Husbands: Their Stories, Their Words in 2001. Klein published a novel, Life, Sex and the Pursuit of Happiness in 2005.
     

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