Trump administration insists UN sanctions on Iran are restored: No, they're not, says United Nations

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  1. Egoboy

    Egoboy Well-Known Member Donor

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    The Trump administration unilaterally declared Saturday that international sanctions on Iran, lifted as part of a 2015 nuclear accord, have been reimposed.

    There's one problem: Britain, China, France, Germany and Russia – the other signatories to the deal President Donald Trump withdrew the U.S. from – have no intention of enforcing those sanctions.

    The United Nations' 15-member Security Council, which endorsed the Iran agreement negotiated by the Obama administration, has concluded the U.S. has no legal standing to enforce the so-called "snapback" sanctions, since it is no longer a party to the nuclear deal.
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-insists-un-sanctions-002659691.html

    The date for the formal "ending" of the UN embargo on conventional arms is 10/18/20. We'll see what happens on, or soon after, that date.

    Personally, I hope nobody sells Iran anything, nor do they seek to buy anything, and just wait out the few weeks required to get a new US president.

    Since there are no longer Logan Act deterrents, a Biden administration can openly state on day 1 post election confirmation that the US will be requesting the JCPOA be re-activated starting January 20th.

    Cooler heads should prevail here, but if, God forbid, Trump wins in November, Iran can certainly begin purchasing conventional arms effective in November, and it seems there will be no end of countries lining up to sell it to them.

    Good idea? No, but it's where the orange idiot has put the world.
     
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    It was a stupid deal to agree to for precisely this reason. Its toothless and the Iranian regime can pursue nuclear arms regardless of the deal. We just have to live with a nuclear Iran.
     
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    They at the very least were not according to everyone but trump. Now they are getting closer each day.
     
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    The UN is a farce.
     
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    If not for the un europe would be all russians.
     
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    And then that was over, and the UN became a farce.
     
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    Do you seriously think russia is no longer a threat?
     
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    Not to those who get Russian support...
     
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    Not nearly the threat China is, Russia has an economy the size of Italy's, a military 10% as big as ours, and one broken aircraft carrier.
     
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    Not one that the farce that is the UN has any power to stop.
     
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    While granted China is a big threat dont count russia out they have been as much or more aggressive than china.
     
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    I doubt Israel nor Saudi Arabia would ever agree with those statements. !!
     
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    It was his idea to go rogue on the deal, now it becomes our problem should they develop the weapon and then mount them on missiles. Trump thinks he can bully his way through foreign policy, highlights his naivety about foreign affairs. All these nations that he is trying to bully have been through this before and his lack at tact is his weakness.
     
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    Do you seriously think the UN can do anything at all to stop Russia?
     
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    Um the headline, once again doesn't match the body....the US has put into place and is acting on the snapback provision....the sanctins are set to expire in October and watns them in place and is trying to get the other nations to agree...they likely won't...considering China and Iran are partners in attempting to get Biden elected.

    Now there is a good and solid argument we don't have standing to issue the snapback since we got out...but we can unilaterally put those same sanctions in place ourselves. But here is hoping nations not allied with the Biden campaign and Iran will agree that Iran doesn't need nuclear weapons.

    and considering Iran has repeatedly violated the "agreement" since it was signed they should snap back
     
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    Not according to our intel community....it was true maybe in 2012...but the Obama/Bid admin ignored it....now though China has taken over as the greatest threat
    https://www.fbi.gov/news/speeches/t...ic-and-national-security-of-the-united-states
    "The greatest long-term threat to our nation’s information and intellectual property, and to our economic vitality, is the counterintelligence and economic espionage threat from China. It’s a threat to our economic security—and by extension, to our national security." - FBI

    https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/counterintelligence/the-china-threat

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    The counterintelligence and economic espionage efforts emanating from the government of China and the Chinese Communist Party are a grave threat to the economic well-being and democratic values of the United States.

    Confronting this threat is the FBI’s top counterintelligence priority.

    To be clear, the adversary is not the Chinese people or people of Chinese descent or heritage. The threat comes from the programs and policies pursued by an authoritarian government.

    The Chinese government is employing tactics that seek to influence lawmakers and public opinion to achieve policies that are more favorable to China."

    I bolded a certain part there....hence why they are actively supporting and trying to get Biden to win. Voters beware
     
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    Yep, every issue (foreign or domestic) can you be neatly explained by whether it supports trump or biden :roll:
     
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    The UN is garbage.
     
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    I am not sure what you mean.....I suppose the DOJ said they don't expect Biden to be charged with a crime at this point during their review of Obamagate...that's good for him.
     
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    And the russians have a agent as president.
     
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    Not according to the Mueller Report...odd you all won't accept it.

    Moreover he has been harder on Russia then any President since Reagan who killed their empire.

    What we do know is that Biden publicly asked for Xi to help him win and frankly Xi is working hard to do it.....and the intel community said Xi and his party were the greatest national security threat to our nation...so what does that make the DNC that nominated Biden? I think it's obvious
     
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    Lol you do know what muellers right hand guy has been saying about the whole investigation right?
    Trump should have been forced to sit down for a interview not given 4 months to give written answers. His financials should have been looked into to see if he had any ties on that front. But roadblocks was put up of course by obstructionist donnie and his mafia style administration.
     
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    Why? and who cares what Peter Strozok and the Obamagate gang care about at this point?

    He obstucted nothing, and Mueller is under oath saying so.

    We know now, that the Obama Admin knew there was no ties or conspiracy......before Mueller was appointed....Brennen, Clapper, Comey, all are under oath saying there was no evidence...so the entire Mueller thing was nothing more then Pistal Pete and the Obamagate Gang's insurance policy

    Stop already...this is all clearly proven...your witch hunt don't fly...accept the report...
     
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    Obviously oan didnt give you who is now talking

    Weissmann who was muellers deputy.
    Everyone figure mueler looked into trumps taxes and financials because that is basic investigation especially looking if maybe another country has something over you which usually deals with money. But neither of those were looked into at all according to Weissman.... why???
     

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