Trump skips virtual G20 meeting on 'pandemic preparedness' to play golf

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  1. gnoib

    gnoib Well-Known Member

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    I love it, me shares will go up and up, bought it at 58 USD.
    By the way, the US bought 1.95 billion Dollars worth of the vaccine. Which is 100 million doses at 19.5 USA.

    Education free of charge.

    Don't you like it if it is just Germany ?

    Prost
     
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  2. dairyair

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    Are you sure? This article states otherwise.

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    Berlin gave the German company $445 million in an agreement in September to help accelerate the vaccine by building out manufacturing and development capacity in its home market.

    What the U.S. did, meanwhile, was commit to buying hundreds of millions of vaccines in advance to ensure Americans were among the first in line if it clinches an emergency-use authorization or approval from the FDA. The Trump administration agreed in July to pay almost $2 billion for 100 million doses, with an option to acquire as many as 500 million more, once that clearance comes.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ine-s-funding-came-from-berlin-not-washington
     
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  3. dairyair

    dairyair Well-Known Member

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    no one fears his success. There's no success past or future.
    His failure is why as a sitting president he lost.
     
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    A person gets hired to do a job and they aren't required to fulfill the responsibilities of that job? Isn't that classic insubordination?
     
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    That’s why the country decided not to renew his 4 year contract lol
     
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    Good for you but producing tests doesn't mean they are getting where they need to go. Unless you used the wrong word. I'm comparing us to us....after all, we're #1!!
     
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    I have no idea, do you?
     
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    It's right in the job description...."and other duties"
     
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    If only there were some way to record such events. Maybe the technology will be invented sometime in the future. That will take hundreds of years though.

    Really, you can't even try to answer one of my simple questions?
     
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    Which doesn’t include whatever you want it to. Face it, objectively you are wrong.

    nice try though
     
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    This guy is a joke. Absolutely unsuitable as president. It's unbelievable that some people still want him as president after the lies, embarrassments, and mistakes he made.

    The Republican Party has a lot of bright people. Why did they choose the stupid fool Trump as candidate, a big, 74-year-old toddler?

    Worst of all, he won back in 2016. :(
     
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    You are confusing two things here. It wasn't the 1,95 billion that made reseach and development possible, that money is an order for 100 million doses of the vaccine. Pfizer didn't receive federal money as one CEO has stated repeatedly (see below) and 'warp speed' didn't play a role in this.

    The truth is that Pfizer didn’t receive any funding from Operation Warp Speed for the development, clinical trial and manufacturing of the vaccine. Rather, its partner, BioNTech SE, has received money -- from the German government.
    BioNTech is credited for contributing the messenger RNA technology, which prompts the body to make a key protein from the virus, creating an immune response.

    Berlin gave the German company $445 million in an agreement in September to help accelerate the vaccine [...].
    What the U.S. did, meanwhile, was commit to buying hundreds of millions of vaccines in advance to ensure Americans were among the first in line if it clinches an emergency-use authorization or approval from the FDA. The Trump administration agreed in July to pay almost $2 billion for 100 million doses, with an option to acquire as many as 500 million more, once that clearance comes.

    Chief Executive Officer Albert Bourla has repeatedly said that the drug giant has avoided taking taxpayer dollars for research and development purposes.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ine-s-funding-came-from-berlin-not-washington
    https://www.bloombergquint.com/business/pfizer-vaccine-s-funding-came-from-berlin-not-washington


    Pfizer did not accept federal funding to help develop or manufacture the vaccine.
    https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/pfizer-covid-19-vaccine

    Trump and Pence celebrate Pfizer'd COVID-19 vaccine success, but the government didn't fund its development.
    The pharmaceutical giant did not use taxpayer funds in terms of the research and development of the vaccine.
    But, over the summer, the US government had placed a nearly $2 billion order with Pfizer for 100 million doses of the vaccine.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/tru...e-but-government-didnt-fund-2020-11?r=DE&IR=T

    And to answer the question how much the EU contributed. The funding for Biontech is around 445 million, plus 50 million form the Europen Investment Bank, making it 495 million to be invested into research and the development of the vaccine.
     
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    He sped up PPE development in the early months. He sped up the vaccine development. What else would have had him do? Seriously.
     
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    So Trump is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't.
     
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    No Trump should act like an adult.
     
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    Only a child wants their cake and eat it too. Maybe you should start acting like an adult?
     
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    What did Trump miss at the meeting? Seriously?

    And, you are right, of course. It was probably recorded and it's highly unlikely Trump would have had any sort of meaningful contribution. I'm okay he went golfing.
     
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    Leading is exactly what did. Democrats want to once again follow the world into Marxist fascism.
     
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    Let's not make this personal.
     
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    You need to knock off the personal insults.
     
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    You have to forgive them, they are so used to hate radio and hate tv they believe its just normal interaction....They have been fed buckets of hate and lies they get so upset it never comes to fruition!
     
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    I have had posts deleted for far less.
     
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    As I call it

    It is not USA
    USA
    USA
    MAGA

    It is just Germany, Black, Red and Gold
     
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    Leading is being involved. Offering solutions, making plans, getting others to agree on an action.

    Sitting on one's butt, as the USA is doing, is not leading. That is by most people's accounts, sitting out.
     
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    Many have.
    I guess that may be a reason this site is down to about 20 posters.
    After 9:00pm EST, there might be 5 posts in a 30 min period.

    The RW has run away, likely to an echo chamber.
     
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