Black Folks---Listen up

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  1. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    Jeez, can't you guys do better that parrot right wing BS from Fox Noise and the Murdoch media flunkies? Clearly, you don't DARE address the reality of America for many of it's citizens. I mean, are you actually denying or justifying what happened to people of Middle Eastern origin/descent after 9/11? If so, then you're just practicing right wing revisionism, which is pathetic. Carry on.
     
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    1. You care....that's why you inserted it twice into the discussion as if would reinforce your assertions and contentions. I showed it doesn't, and that just burns your shorts. Poor baby.

    2. All you're doing is repeating your clap trap as if that magically makes it a real world reality. Newsflash: only in your mind. Your dismisal of my fact based assesment contains NO address of the point. Typical dodge of bogus right wing "non-bigots".

    3. Thanks for proving my point...because YOU "deny" a reality, science and history and try to replace it with your revisionist screed as to what constitutes society's definitions or race and creed and how they have played out over the centuries. That's EXACTLY what Duke and his off-shoots do in order to redefine how society should be, and how anyone who says different is a "professional victim" or the "real racist". This guff you spew would be laughable if only you didn't waste time and space on it for the few jokers that support/accept it on this thread.

    4. Anyone who actually has read the decrees and writings in Stormfront would read your statement and wonder WTF is the matter with you? I mean, are you just in denial or pretending this delusional nonsense you spew actually viable. What logical PROOF other than your convoluted drivel, can you muster to show how I'm a racist for pointing out America's past and present congenital racism? Come, come, my good man, give the reader something other than a repeat of your blathering as proof you're assertions are correct. We'll wait.

    5. I don't know what they are teaching in the schools these days, but I was taught that one must first recognize the problem in order to solve it. This "I don't see color" BS had it's 15 minutes back in the late 1960's and early 1970's before it was tossed in the bin with "Some of my best friends are colored". People who spew the guff you do are fine with solving America's racial problems so long as it's the people who cause them are calling the shots and direction. Too bad if you don't like reality....just stand aside and don't get in the way as others solve the problem.

    6. See #3 and #5.

    7. You just contradicted yourself. See #1 & #2. Also, it's interesting how you ignore the HISTORICAL FACT of what I posted to side track to a regurgitation of your drivel that was previously deconstructed.

    8. Boy, that was a lame retort....grade schoolers I've taught have better come backs than that.

    9. Note, readers; this guy can't logically or factually disprove a point, so he diverts to personal attacks and repeats there of.

    10. Spoken like a true videot. With age comes wisdom....hopefully you'll experience that someday. Carry on.
     
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  3. kungfuliberal

    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    #350 (politicalforum.com)
     
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    kungfuliberal Well-Known Member

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    The chronology of the posts shows your intellectual dishonesty. That I've reduced you to this childish antic of juxtaposing posts is quite telling. But here's for the reader to decide if I'm exaggerating: #352 (politicalforum.com)
     
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    Good....close your eyes, put your hands over your ears, call me names, cross your arms and turn away from the truth. Nobody cares about your willful childish posturing.
     
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    Nice post. Wish I'd said it. I'm jealous.:D
     
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  7. edna kawabata

    edna kawabata Well-Known Member

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    Did Floyd deserve to die for his actions while in police custody is the issue. Your attitude is schit happens and he was a bad guy, but most humans with an ounce of empathy say it was wrong. BLM began with Trayvon Martin and Floyd is one of the newest members of the club that the far right dismisses by victim blaming.

    "Their" scientists are our scientists, not fringe quacks pushed by the right or politicizing the CDC. If you don't have clear protocols nationally you have the mess we're in now.

    Oh, I've judged you by your opinion and it ain't good.
    See above about Floyd.
    Quote me where I made excuses.
     
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    Not one single bit, honey.

    I have no idea what "assesment" you are talking about because you have not really said anything at all.

    "Racial Realism" is not really science in any sense of the word whatsoever. I am not surprised that racists like you may think so, but in reality, there is no such thing as race. This is primarily a philosophoical question and not a scientific one and clearly, your ideas are ones rooted in the collectivist toxicity that lead to Nazi Germany.

    You are a follower of Plato, Kant and a true collectivist and with those ideas, you will never ever be able to defeat racism.

    David Duke doesn't care about race and claims race is not the primary unit of existence? I am not sure you know who David Duke is. :laughing:

    Exactly. They would disagree with me and ridicule me for not being racist. Meanwhile, they would read your posts and think; "Ah, kungfuliberal is one of us!"

    I have already told you how you are a racist. You beleive race is the primary unit of existence and that an individual is only a single cell in a larger racial organism. You have no respect for the individual and hold a general contempt for the Enlightenment values that defeated slavery and created the greatest society ever.

    OK Boomer.

    Racism only prevails because of people like you. People who think race is relevant to a person's existence and who does not believe in the individual. To you, human beings are jsut animals who have no brains or reason and only act on instinct and need the confirmation of "their tribe" to be able to survive.

    You are a very, very, very racist person.

    Where did I contradict myself? Learn how to block-quote, Boomer.

    Learn how to use the quotation-function so that I know what you are referring to, Boomer.

    Assuming anyone reads your posts. :laughing:

    OK Boomer.
     
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  9. Ritter

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    :laughing: :laughing::laughing:
     
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    Kungfuliberal is clearly a racist.
     
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    Oh, just because you didn't make an excuse THERE doesn't make up for the excuses you have made in this thread. The fact that you're phrasing the question "did floyd..." is a beautiful example of shifting goal posts to shoe-horn a point. You could have phrased it "did the police deserve to be tried in the media for doing their jobs and handling on overdosing career criminal who disobeyed lawful orders and brought on his own demise" but that's the facts and you're not interested in facts.

    Stop lionizing a****** criminals and those who commit themselves to the destruction of our society.
     
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    If it were up to two of these posters criminals everywhere could victimize the rest of us and never face scrutiny- nothing they do is their fault!
     
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    No, Floyd didn't DESERVE to die I would say, but death often comes about when an OD> amount of fentanyl is found in your system and you struggle with police after exhibiting questionable behavior over counterfeit money while holding a pretty extensive police record. However, he IS a hero to the black community. Something to aspire to for young kids.

    Scientists are in different camps. Science doesn't lie but human beings are often fraught with biases and scientists often disagree. Given the left wing bias of the media....we often only hear one side.
     
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    Giving them the benefit of the doubt that they think they are doing good for black Americans. In fact they are only enabling the behavior and the decades long nationwide conjob which is hurting blacks. Consequently they are making it worse for them. If one day they open their eyes, they will see that promiscuity, resulting in astronomical numbers of out of wedlock births, followed by replacing Husbands and Fathers with taxpayer subsidies is essentially the very root cause of all black problems. They will see how reaching the mountaintop of equality has simultaneously stripped them of their dignity and character along the way. Such are the measured disparities. They have done it to themselves. All their excuses be damned.
     
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    Moronic.

    Police don't kill people for resisting if they did nobody in jail would have a charge of resisting they'd be dead.

    Trevor noah is a comedian sans comedy.
     
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    What happened two people of middle Eastern descent after 9/11? It's 20/20 and they seem to be thriving here so it must not have been that bad.
     
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    Where have I made excuses for law breakers? Again with biased assumptions.
    Let's have it your way..."did the police deserve to be tried in the media for doing their jobs and handling on overdosing career criminal who disobeyed lawful orders and brought on his own demise"? Yeah, he died in custody while ignoring his pleas and apparently the state thought the actions serious enough to bring up murder charges. That's the facts.
    See above and you have a strange definition of "hero". Floyd was not a hero.
    Scientists are not in different "camps" that is more right-wing conspiracy theory. The only "side" you seem to hear is ideological and anti-science.
     
  18. kungfuliberal

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    1. Notice, dear reader, how our Ritter can't cop to the inescapable truth that it is she who injected said subject(s) into the conversation. The chronology of the posts confirms this. Her intellectual dishonesty prevents her from conceding a point proven by her own actions. Pitiful.

    2. The first 4 words of your sentence pretty much covers the gist of your basic blather throughout our discussion. Either that or you are lying/bluffing for the reading audience. Unfortunately for you, the chronology of the posts is your undoing. Again, your dismisal of my fact based assesment contains NO address of the point. Typical dodge of bogus right wing "non-bigots".

    3. "racial realism" is your neologism, sweetpea, not mine. Seems every time you face a statement that you can't logically, factually or rationally refute or disprove, you create your own reality and then build on it...REAL history and current events be damned. You're a poor revisionist, kid. Only the person in your mirror buys your guff. You can yammer on about how technically (and that scientific theory is still being debated) there is no such thing as "race", but you'd be hard press to explain to the reading audience how the WORLD functions on such designations that you claim don't exist....much less who are the major perpetraitors of such. That is what I am dealing with and what you are denying with some lame and flawed philosophical denunciation. As to your Plato, Kant & Nazi reference/side track, nothing I've written remotely expouses what you accuse me of here. You make accusations you can't prove, as your opinion is NOT fact, but convoluted "logic"...that tactic just makes you look silly.

    4. I'm not sure your reading comprehensionis up to snuff, my chuckling friend. Learn to read carefully an comprehensively, as misconstrue what has previously transpired. Once again, you revise what I write to suit your own narrative. But the objective, rational reader isn't buying into your tactic. Laugh, clown, laugh.

    5. You're babbling, sweetpea. Essentially, you're saying "I know you are but what am I"...a retort best left on the playground of grade schoolers. And learn to read, I'm talking about an objective rational person who has read the bigoted bilge of Storm Front, then followed your clap trap on this discussion, and asks themselves "what is this woman's problem?", because your convoluted "logic" is so similar. Got that?

    4. Let me dumb it down for you....Proof is NOT your regurgitated accusations and personal opinion. You have to provide easily researched references, historical examples and such that you can say "here's why what you said here is wrong". So far, you haven't done that. Until you do, you're just blowing smoke.

    5. Typical videot retort....you're positive proof that those who do not know history are condemned to repeat it.

    6. The whole basis of your tiresome screeds is the fanatasy that "race is irrelevent" regarding America's social problems. That you ignore such things as Jim Crow, redlining, the cases consistently brought forth by the ACLU or the reportings of cases via the Southern Poverty Law Center....that way you convince yourself that your drivel has validity....so much more to pity you.

    7. You claim you don't care about anyone's racial or ethnic identity, yet when I pointed to the FACT that America "detained" people of middle easten origin after 9-11 just because of their race/ethnicity (but no evidence of criminal complicity)was a clear sign of racism, YOU immediately declared your racial/ethnic identity....to what, discredit the conclusion of a historical fact? Get it together, kid. Your denial and double talk just don't cut it here.

    8. Geez, clicking the little arrow next to the names for a quick reference when you need it is just too much for ya sweetpea? But what's telling is that you think calling someone a 'boomer' is an insult. Clearly as the chronology of the posts shows, a 'boomer' has a better grasp of American reality than some videot with a "I think there for it is" attitude. As they say, with age comes wisdom....you've got a LONG way to go, kid.

    9. THINK, sweetpea, THINK! If YOU are spending time and effort to read and respond to my posts, then what on God's green Earth makes you think that you are alone? And if you believe such, what does that say about you? Jeez, you can't even get an insult straight!

    10. See #8. And I suggest you find out what "videot" means...it might help. Carry on.
     
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    Laugh, clown, laugh.
     
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    Prove it, sweepea. Your opinion, suppositon and conjecture are NOT proof. Look up the definition. Also, that you back up a poster with a racist dig in his screen name speaks volumes as to your inner bigot or your complete cluelessness. Carry on
     
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    Scientists are people. People have bias. Sometimes they are wrong. Science is different. Some say masks help, some say they don't. Some say man causes global warming and other scientists say if we stopped all human emissions to day, the planet would still be warmer a hundred years from now. Scientists are in different camps. Don't believe they are gods. That's liberal theology.
     
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    Even if you can put people into "racial boxes", it does not change the fact that "race" is a meaningless concept. Your skin tone and family tree provides zero value to your life and therefore it is objectively unreal because the need to categorise and identifying people as "races" has no purpose.

    It is both reprehensible and deplorable to establish racial identities and seperating human beings into them. I hate identity politics in all forms that it takes, be it "yay diversity" or "nationalism". This is all that I can say and if you still want to emphasise the importance of race, go away. I do not want anything to do with you.

    Your skin is of no relevance to your life. I understand that this is hard for people to grasp because it requires you to take individual responsibility for your own life and abilities without relying on your "bloodline" for comfort and validation.

    Colour-blindness is the only way to deal with racism. Race should be abondened completely. If there is a particular problem in the "Black Community", you address the problem and not the race.
     
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    That sentiment is worth the repeat! It takes committed individuals to change the world. Identity politics is just a tool to divide us in little groups, fight among ourselves, then slip the noose of enslavement around our necks and control us.
     
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    Is that all you have?
    Scientists are not in different "camps" if they are actually scientists because the scientific method is set up to filter out cognitive assumptions i.e. ideology, otherwise you get people pushing hydroxychloroquine as the new wonder drug.
     
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    "Scientists" were pro-slavery and supported the holocaust too because the targetted groups were "scientifically proven" to be inferior.

    Just saying.
     
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