Mass. Joins California banning sale of new gas powered cars in 2035.

Massachusetts governor Baker has announced that Massachusetts will join California in banning the sale of new gasoline powered vehicles effective January 1,2035. New Jersey has also expressed interest in pursuing similar action as have several other states.

 

Easy fix, buy one from out of state. If they won't let you register it in those states, rent a P.O. Drop Box and keep it registered out of state. The tags and insurance will be cheaper too. Anyone living in CA, check the plates of commercial vehicles as you drive around. Businesses have been doing this since CARB passed new diesel engine regulations.

 

Easier fix. Buy a used one from the lot down the street.

 

Bring your VISA Card.....it's gonna cost ya.

 

Possibly, but there's no way to predict market demand 15 years out. It's possible that demand for gas motors goes down, and therefore so will the price.

 

They are going to have to install a bunch of oil and gas power plants.

 

Not necessarily. Massachusetts seems to be ahead of the curve with renewables.

Renewable Energy Division | Mass.gov

The Massachusetts Department of Energy Resources' Renewable Energy Division provides information regarding the different kinds of renewable energy, funding programs and incentives, installation assistance, and more available in Massachusetts. Types of renewable energy available in Massachusetts include: wind, solar, biomass, and more.

Massachusetts Renewable Energy Requirement | Colonial Power Group

By law, all electric supply products are required to include a mandatory minimum percentage of clean/renewable energy resources. For example, products sold in 2021 must include a minimum of 49% clean energy resources that are located within the New England region (the “MA Requirement”).

There is also nuclear in MA.

Nuclear Power Plants | Mass.gov

 

Governor Brownout bet big on wind & solar also. Now Governor Recall is bringing annual rolling blackouts. The 21st century isn't treating climate alarmists or the anti-nuke crowd too well. Meanwhile, Trump has brought back the winters of the 1950's despite CA burning down their state and smoking up the planet.

That's called, 'healing the planet'.

 

Eh, we can always sell them hydro electricity like we already do with vermont, maine & NY. Ontario could do the same also.

 

That really doesn't work well, it negates the insurance. If 5-10 more.states jump on board, we've got some issues.

But who knows. In 15 years I might be ready for an EV, hell I might be ready in 5.

 

Just Charley the Fake Republican sucking up to the green wackos in the People's Republic. What's going to power the electric plants that generate "Green" electricity to charge their worthless cars? Lemme see, no coal, no nukes, what's left, oh yeah PETROLEUM. Nice one Charley. Many folks in the commonwealth have long commutes to work, are their employers going to charge their cars??? You can't get decent healthcare in Massachusetts but I guess blowing rainbows out your ass is more important, right Charles?

 

My first thought too

 

Hey, that's a business opportunity for Trump fans. Buy a couple of ICE cars and store them, so you can make a killing selling them in 2035.

Seriously, though, children born today will probably wonder why anyone would ever want to buy an antiquated car with an ICE. They will be SO yesterday.

 

California always seems to be on the leading edge of radical, poorly thought out decisions. Soon California will recognize and decry the evils of nearly all forms of power generation; carbon from coal powered, from natural gas powered, the birds lost to wind generators, the ecological damages from hydro-electrics. That will bring their list of options down to- solar power. Thus they will allow only cars that have at least 100 sq ft of solar panels built into them, and are self-charging... and that will allow them to be powered by perhaps 2 horsepower motors. It's like watching a science experiment conducted by the inmates at the asylum.

 

That may apply to generic fords and chevys, but the specialty and muscle cars will become increasingly valuable. You won't be finding classics at the junk yards, they will be high-dollar stuff you can't afford at Barrett-Jackson. And the law would apply to new cars, not used. The most valuable car I own now is also the oldest by far, and keeps gaining market value.

 

Yes, collector vehicles will continue to increase in value. What do you own? If I had my choice, I'd pick a '67 Camaro RS/SS, a '69 Torino 428 Cobra Jet and a '47 Knucklehead.

 

Were you with us when today's climate alarmists fought against the Tellico Dam? Some people don't like anything that works. That's why they cling to Socialism, which gives them options. When that fails, as it always has, there is always Communism. When that fails, as it always has, there is always Fascism. When all else fails, they project their disease on others. Rinse, repeat.

 

Errrr. Are you ok? This post of yours doesn't make any sense.

 

I'd be partial to the Torino for sure. I'd also like to own a 69 Mach One, 428 cobra jet. Had a friend that owned one- I offered to buy, but not for sale ever. I think that would be my first pick on American muscle.



The car I'm keep for fun now and then is a 96 NSX-T; Honda's entry into the market to compete with Ferrari class cars. Saw my first one in a showroom, the year they first came out- 1990, $90,000, and cordoned off- do not touch kind of display, and way out of my reach then. At that time mine was built, they were building about 500 cars a year; about half came to America. Mine is one of 14 in it's particular configuration. I'm second owner, all original, always garaged and covered, documented from day one. Has upgrades, but all original parts are stored, and not a hole was drilled nor a wire cut to install things like the nav stereo and front/rear cameras. Performance about identical to a Corvette Z of the same year. Supposed to be faster on the top end, but I'm not going there to see.

They are hand built aluminum cars (both body and frame), mid-engine (the back glass is actually the hood over the engine, with an interim section that stores the T-top) and lots of ground-breaking innovations. Titanium connecting rods, paddle shifting. The entire engine, tranny and rear suspension are a modular unit that bolts into the frame. Drops out the bottom, and everything is accessible. Really fun to drive, and it does turn a head or two.

 

Sure am. The same people who are today driving bans on gas powered car, presumably to promote clean energy, fought against hydro power and nukes a few decades ago. Those people have been wrong about everything starting with their failed ideology. Sorry my example went off course

 

I bet, in a previous life, you were bitching about the disapearing horse carriage business...

There are way to build an hydro project while respecting the environment. You've to make the community part of the decision making. The problem in the USA is that you rely on for profit business for you infrastructure projects. The rest of the world has realized years ago that utilities and other common good infrastructures are best done when there's heavy government controls.

That's the main reason why the USA is slowly going down the drain. You're still trying to cling to a 19th century model set in stone while the rest of us keep adapting to the changing times.

 

All good choices, but I'll take one of these please,

 

Nope, the affluent will ride and the poor can wave at them in admiration as they pass by, MUST keep those dividing lines so's the peasantry know their proper place in society.

 

It's because we don't treat people like the Uyghurs the way advanced societies who boast the status of a "developing country" treat them while working to bury those who are consumed by hubris.

Science says power sources that are not dispatchable cannot successfully form the backbone of an electric grid. Some people who haven't advanced to understand science but think an awful lot of themselves will continue to make the same mistakes and expect different results.

 

This would be a fine post if I was talking about the chinese but I'm not.
And since, of the two of us, I'm the one working for an electric utility, one that can and do export to the USA, I know you're not making any sense.

Now try to post something intelligent or you'll be joining your friends in the iggy list.