Why so many Americans believe there was an election fraud?

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  1. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    How high is your nose up in the air while you mockingly laugh? Your wife too?
     
  2. ECA

    ECA Well-Known Member

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    I didn’t realize only elitists could mockingly laugh.
     
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  3. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me repeat: may problem is to understand why so many Americans believe there was an election fraud when:
    SCOTUS didn’t find the election fraud.
    Over 50 US courts didn’t find the election fraud.
    US General Attorney William Barr didn’t find the election fraud.
    Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan, a Republican didn’t find the election fraud.
    Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) didn’t find the election fraud.
    Christopher Krebs, director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency find the election fraud.

    I have no explanation to this situation. The majority of people who are saying there was no election fraud are Republicans, some nominated by Trump. If President Trump is right and there he won elections, it means these people are secret Democrats or idiots.
    I just don't understand.
     
  4. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lets assume that Paul Ryan is in a tie with Mitt Romney in replacing Juan McCain as the Anti Trump Rino posterboy. In this case we have to add to the Anti Trump Rino posterboy/girl who are in tie with Mitt Romney:
    Justice Neil Gorsuch
    Justice Brett Kavanaugh
    Justice Amy Coney Barrett
    over 50 judges - some of them nominated by President Trump who did not find the election fraud
    US General Attorney William Barr
    Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan, a Republican
    Christopher Krebs, director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency find the election fraud.
    Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, Republican
    and probably even more.

    Can you make this list complete?
     
  5. zalekbloom

    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think you are right - SCOTUS, US judges, US General Attorney William Barr, US General Attorney William Barr, Georgia Lt. Gov. Geoff Duncan, a Republican, Election Infrastructure Government Coordinating Council (GCC) and Christopher Krebs, director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency are 'successfully indoctrinated'. For them 'priority 1' is to gain control of so they can 'teach' people why and how to control the masses.
    And you are right too that my friend is elitist - he is well educated... I mean 'successfully indoctrinated.'
     
  6. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Likely you are young.

    I learned from my year in Vietnam not to trust the government's institutions. Shortly after I got out, Daniel Ellsberg released the Pentagon Papers and they very strongly corroborated what I had learned myself--the government lies as it pleases.

    Are you suggesting I should never suspect that politicians lie and deceive? That they don't cheat on elections?

    I'm sorry, I'm unable to comply with your wishes. There are many examples before this that the courts are as corrupt as the legislative and executive branches.
     
  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    They don't believe there is election fraud, and they don't CARE if there is election fraud.

    Election fraud isn't their concern, their concern is Donald Trump remaining President.

    Trump HATES THE RIGHT PEOPLE, (which are basically ANYONE who is not of Trump's immediate ethnicity)

    In Trumpism you have nearly an infinite supply of people to be hated, and Haters Gotta Hate.
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    This is basically ALL Americans, anytime, ever. In fact it's all people, anytime. Human beings are, with no doubt whatsoever, the most ferocious creatures on the planet by a pretty wide margin.

    Do you want to see some pissed people? Try actually overturning this last election.
     
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    Why so many Americans believe there was an election fraud? Because there was.
     
  11. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    This. Trump has brainwashed his supporters into believing that he is Teflon. His not supposed to lose an election. The fact that he got his ass kicked by Ole Joe when they believed he would easily win is a truth they simply do not want to live in.

    Oh well, they have 4 years, then they can try again.
     
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    The SCOTUS along with every Judge that threw horseshit fraud cases out of Court disagree with you. LMAO
     
  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    There is no maybe. LOL Biden will be sworn in on 1/20/2021. Pence isn't gonna magically just deem Trump POTUS on Wednesday.
     
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    I disagree.


    Below are those 74 million Americans right now.

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    which is a silly thing to say, because you, trump, his crack legal team or anyone else has been able to show it.
     
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    For once they decided all of the Trump nonsense wasn't worth wasting any more tax-payer money...why aren't you cheering??
     
  18. WalterSobchak

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    His crack legal team have told numerous Judges in numerous States that their suit has NOTHING to do with fraud. LOL

    Lying to a Judge has dire consequences. Lying to their supporters is meaningless.
     
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    Uniform elections would likely not be to my satisfaction, because their standards for identification would likely be watered down compared to how my state does it now. But the general idea is ok, assuming that the federal format actually verified that the person voting was confirmed through the obvious ways, ID & Signature match.

    I have no problem with absentee voting through the proper channels, I have lots of problems with just mailing out ballots that were not properly requested.
     
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    Perhaps your friend is correct...
    but there are plenty of the so called "educated"
    that are filling those "uneducated" with lies....that is the real danger.
    For some..."Education" just makes them better criminals.
    It's the white collar criminals that we should be over-filling prisons with...not the Blacks and Latinos and the white poor.
     
  21. Lee Atwater

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    They refuse to accept objective reality.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...es-for-the-dangerous-ramifications-of.583017/
     
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    While a few republicans have been caught cheating, even voting for dead people....Trump still lost
     
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    Nowadays without a valid ID one literally doesn't exist as it's required to do SO many things, and no one has a problem with it. BUT... to require one to vote and all of a sudden it's "DEAR GOD, NO, NO, NO!!! THATS DISENFRANCHISEMENT!!!". What a joke!
     
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    I have always taken issue with lack of voter ID requirements and long ago grew tired of the anecdotal examples used of the 94 year old disabled woman that was born in a rural barn and has no birth cert. My solution to that was simple, have local election authorities have some degree of flexibility for those exceptional cases where documents are hard or impossible to provide. Letting a million vote without ID because 5 people legitimately don't have the proper paperwork is ridiculous. Its 1/4/21 and I've already used my ID twice this year, how anybody that isn't homeless and unemployed handles their day to day life without identification baffles me.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll welcome it!
     

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