Why so many Americans believe there was an election fraud?

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    They are easy to monitor if the monitors can actually see what the vote count workers are doing. That was not true in every state. No joke.
     
  2. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    I don't approve of political parties. I'm the last person who would form one.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Even Jonathon Turley? He's been a right wing stooge for some time. The work of an election commission has effectively been done already by virtue of the 60 cases brought by Trump & CO thrown out of court for lack of evidence.
     
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    Bad democrat talking point. All Barr said was that he hadn't seen any evidence. That would be natural since nobody in the justice department investigated the fraud.

    Of course I know. There is a ton of evidence. I listed a few in an earlier post that added up to about a million votes. You know, things like one precinct that had 139% of registered voters vote for Biden. There is all kinds of evidence but you won't see it on the media with which you interface.
     
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    Rot and nonsense.
     
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    I should refer you to some of the responses I have gotten for saying that sort of thing. At any rate it is of no consequence.
     
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    Indeed, we have at least 59 court rulings (which include multiple ruling by Trump appointed judges), investigations from the DHS, the DOJ, as well as multiple investigations from multiple secretary of state's offices. We've also has ballot canvassing, ballot audits, hand recounts, and signature reviews.

    Each and every one of the sources listing above were unanimous in concluding there was no mass voter fraud

    What it ultimately boils down to is two thing. 1 People are more willing to believe what they want to be true, and 2. People tend to follow what their leader says. If there's a president who people have complete trust in, all that president needs to do is say it, and his followers will believe him.
     
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    Where ? State your source.
     
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    Exactly which states ? Were they the “ deep states “ ? Where is the proof ? Put down a source.
     
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    You don’t know what voter suppression is, do you ?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    You don’t try to repair them. It’s a waste of time. You out vote them then arrest and prosecute the law breakers.
     
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    40% of the electorate voted for a scam artist they couldn’t trust. Of course they don’t trust him or anyone else.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, maybe you right, maybe President Trump and his lawyers have no idea how the court works – it a pity they didn’t ask you as an expert witness. The same as you saved this poor woman from bankruptcy you could save America!
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, maybe you right, maybe President Trump and his lawyers have no idea how the court works , they don’t know how to convince court to look for evidence.
    And we know that the FBI, CIA, etc....are corrupt.
    In Helsinki President Trump told us he trust more KGB officer than the FBI, CIA.

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    "The Republican party promises pie in the sky but delivers dung on the sidewalk."
     
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    She still had to use the Bankruptcy process to put an end to debts. She and her husband split. He stopped all support.
    Trump has used good lawyers. But such a complex case like this takes longer than his lawyers had.

    Somebody today whined at me about the Rittenhouse case in Wisconsin. Kyle was seen in a bar with his parents, making his drinking at the bar legal per law, sporting a free as Eff Tee shirt. It enraged the Democrats.

    But he is legally free on bond. And still will have a trial. And he may be found not guilty. Which will make democrats so angry they riot.

    This might help you understand on Trump.

     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You will NEVER prove what you said. If you could have, you would have by now. We want an exact quote of Trump that you allege he said.
     
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    You’ve listed nothing. If there is lots of evidence not on the media, you can easily post here or on social media.
    The Justice department evaluates evidence. The fbi investigates. Really, you can investigate. Any Trump supporter can. But you haven’t, have you ?
    Googling a reputable source is investigating. Maybe because you’ve followed trump for so long, you don’t recognize a reputable source.

    I understand your dilemma. Following a liar who says everyone else lies, must be taxing for the old noodle.
     
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    If you didn't know - President Putin is KGB officer. US Intelligence services told President Putin that Russia meddled in the US 2016 election. Listen to what President Trump is saying - is he trusting FBI/CIA or KGB officer?

     
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    Why, YES he is !

    That’s amazing.
     
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    rahl puts his/her fingers in his/her ears and drones out LA La LALALALALALA.

    HERE is the senate report from the senate website.

    https://www.hsgac.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Ukraine Report_FINAL.pdf
     
  23. fmw

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    I don't have the resources to investigate it. Those who do have decided not to.

    I don't come here to work. I come here for entertainment.

    Not really.
     
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    Sorry I don't do requests. You are welcome to ignore what I say.
     
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    Arizona. I heard it on TV. Sorry you missed it.
     

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