Trump Is Already Claiming That Democrats Rigged The Georgia Runoffs

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  1. Jeannette

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    Don't give up! Here's a possible scenario.

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    Pres. Trump:

    Members of Congress, I will pass around the transcript that was found on Hunter Biden's computer. You will notice that Joe Biden has been fully compromised by China. He will also be under arrest by Interfax for covering up mafia dealings and crimes against Ukraine. Other than that, he did not disclose all of his income from foreign sources.

    As the sitting President, I cannot allow Joe Biden to become the next president of this great country. The alternative to arresting him for treason and tax evasion, would be to send the electors back to the States. That way the legislators can audit everything and choose new electors. We know that once they see the facts, Biden will not be President of the United States of America.
    Speaker Palosi:

    You know there will be riots in the major cities.

    Pres. Trump:

    I am aware of that, and my Generals have their men stationed in strategic areas.
    VP Pence:

    What if we're attacked because of our vulnerability?

    Pres. Trump:

    I have our navy on high alert as well.

    Now Pence, do your duty, and send back the electors. Our Republic will survive.
     
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    Trump can lie and bellicose all he wants.............butt he facts are not in his favor and nor should they be. He is a very poor specimen of a humanoid.


    but some good news:

    Democrats take control of Senate as Jon Ossoff defeats David Perdue in Georgia runoff election, Edison Research projects


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...9.ap4ZjPMWXhIcvyVXSWmIf_--_xfedcfrucDXg5zbfG8

    Good....... this should prevent the Mich and gang t from being totally obstructive and counterproductive.

    The R party is a very shameful and shamed party now.
     
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    Don't you think trump's one hour phone call with the SOS of Georgia would be a clue why the Dems won?
     
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    Donald Trump is crazy and I don't care who says so.
     
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    All I know is that we don't want Donald Trump as President anymore and I mean it.
     
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    Trump is a broken record of stupidity.
     
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    Sorry Jeanette ...but this is simply bullshit what you write!

    You will always find a so called specialist who confirms eventhe worst bullshit of conspiracy claims as possible and true.
    Man made climate change?
    1,000 well-known and famous scientists confirm this, but 20 mostly less well-known scientists do not. So for all those people who are deny man made climate change, of course only the 20 scientists are right ... And that's exactly what happens here with you and your statements as a pattern, regardless of the topic.
    In addition, you often change your mind very quickly, sometimes radically! When the bastard Erdogan shot once down a Russian jet in Syria, you puked fire and bile against Erdogan. But only a few months later, Putin and Erdogan started cuddling and whoosh ... Erdogan? Not a bad guy, was your statement!
    When Trump fired hundreds of tomahawks after Assad's alleged use of poison gas, you cursed Trump very badly ... and now? Now you've suddenly mutated into a Trumponian. Nothing against changing your looks for the better, but unfortunately for you it is the case that it does not exactly promote your credibility if you spread bullshit like this!
     
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    Democrats didn't rig the Georgia runoffs, Trump did by completely sabotaging the GOP chances. A review of the facts:

    1. Trump shat all over the just passed COVID relief bill and pushed for $2000 cheques after the candidates had already aired ads rightly blaming Democrats for blocking it.

    2. He insisted he would still be in office on Jan 21, making turnout pointless.

    3. Holding out prior to state certification was one thing, legal battles could have changed the outcome legally, but he continued to push this BS once it had literally no chance of succeeding.

    Now the only hope for the republic for the next 4 years lies in the hands of 9 justices.

    What a shambles.
     
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    The truth of the matter is that with 85% of precincts reporting, both Republican candidates were leading, including one that had 51.4% of the votes.

    That's exactly what people saw in Georgia and Pennsylvania during the Election. 96% of precincts in Georgia are reporting and Trump has a large lead which suddenly evaporated.

    That's very suspicious. Is there a reasonable explanation for that? It could be that the remaining 4% of precincts were the most populous, and so took longer to count the votes and that those precincts were largely Democrat voters, but nobody bothered to explain that, assuming that was actually the case.
     
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    Because results don't come in proportional by county. At one point dems were up by 150K+, then a bunch of republican counties uploaded votes and then republicans were up 100K

    At 85% - the largest votes still out by county were in Dekalb County which is strongly democratic - 170K votes. When that got uploaded, the Dems gained big time

    Same thing happened election night and everybody knew before that night that this would happen and there were multiple articles/tv news stories about it. In PA/WI/MI - they could not start counting mail-in ballots until election night. In person votes that skewed heavily republican were counted first - thus the big lead. The mail in were massively skewed democrat and thus when they started getting uploaded, the lead shrank quickly

    It was not ballot dumps, not fraud, just counting the ballots. Look at Ohio - in that state they counted mail-in first and Biden at 50% count had a big lead. He lost big when they started counted the in person

    Trump knew all this and lied to con you and others that it was fraud. Note - I did not see any congresspeople raising the "vote dump" issue on Weds as they know it was BS
     
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    Who said anything about counties? Nice Göbbelizing flounce on your part there.

    Election results are reported by precinct and not by county.
     
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    No kidding, but many counties trend heavy in one direction and when the networks discuss what votes are still out there, they discuss by county, not by precinct. There was no mass fraud, no vote dumping, no dominion vote switching
     
  13. Jeannette

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    German's have a reputation for being inflexible, but everything is not black and white and should be taken in context. First of all the Russian plane was shot down during the Obama administration and it was by the Western leaning Devotoglu - probably because Hillary Clinton said at the time; 'I wish someone would shoot down one of the Russian planes'.

    In the first 2 months afterwards, 5,000 hotels in Turkey had to close down, and the economic losses for Turkey were quite heavy. Erdogan kicked Devotoglu out of the government, and apologized formally to Vladimir Putin. Right now Turkey is being very aggressive in the Eastern Mediterranean and Aegean, as well as in Syria and Libya. Much of it has to do with Erdogan's opposition who are fanatic nationalists and they keep goading him to be more aggressive.
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    As for Trump, I have no love for him. I'm against a lot of things he does, but I despise the war mongering and lying criminals in Washington and I wanted someone to clean it up. He has been trying and has gone through hell because of it.
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    As for Syria, the first chemical attack was outside of Damascus when the Syrian army was defeating the terrorists. There was no reason for the Syrian army to have a chemical attack since they were winning and knew it would give Washington an excuse to bomb them. The terrorists on the other hand had everything to gain by having a false flag chemical attack.

    In the meantime before the attack, a truck with components for chemicals. was stopped at the Syrian border by the guards. Before the Turkish MIT agents could tell them to let the truck pass, Gulens newspaper Zaman got a whiff of it. Erdogan's opposition then brought it up in parliament, so there was no way that Obama didn't know that Turkey and Saudi Arabia were behind the attack.

    Both countries had their troops lined up and ready to march into Syria and grab a chunk of it, but Putin at the request of the Pope, tested the chemicals and Obama was forced to back down. The Saudi king wouldn't speak to Obama for a long time after that.

    Had Obama been allowed to go through with the bombing as he wanted, it would have left Damascus at the hands of the terrorists. At the time the city was packed with Christian refugees who had run to Assad for protection, and it would have become the biggest massacre in history.

    With the second false flag chemical attack, I read that it was Trump's daughter Ivanka that convinced Trump to bomb. Again the Syrian army was defeating the terrorists, which means the only reason we bombed the Syrian army was to keep the war going on. Indirect genocide? I think so!
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    Now about climate change. I hate to inform you that the earth is heating up inside, and it has nothing to do with man burning fossil fuel. The volcanos are packed with lava, and there are hot spots popping up all over the west coast. That's what's causing the fires.

    I read that in Tel Aviv an apartment house had to be evacuated because the side walk was burning hot and steam was coming up. Anyway it all has to do with the plasma from the sun and the affect it has on the inside of the earth.
     
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    Oh dear ....
    Where shall I start now???

    Climate Change:
    Sorry, that's bullcrap and proven to be bullcrap! I think you looked too much the movie 2012 I guess ...
    The saturation of CO2 (and other pollutants such as sulfur dioxide in the atmosphere is drastically increased due to the burning of fossil fuels and that is exactly what causes climate change! In the history of the earth this happened several times for a natural reason ... only these reasons are not present at the moment as they were then ... e.g. the Siberian Trapp.

    Syria:
    I am one of the people in the forum who has always denied Assad's use of poisonous gas in principle. It is specifically about chlorine gas and this is often legally available in Syria, because chlorine and chlorine gas can also be used for many other peaceful things ... e.g. necessary for water treatment.
    Unlike you, however, I do not deny that Assad is a mass murderer and a bastard of dictator. We both had already discussed the allegedly oh-so-democratic election in Syria heavy ... and the use of the so-called barrel bombs by Assad's troops over cities has also been proven and even filmed several times, what you also denied! As criminal as that barrel boming is ... no American has the right to say anything here, because the USA has also done this countless times in Vietnam!).

    Syria Part 2:
    Assad's rest of the army, the Russians, the Iranians and their mercenaries from Hezbollah and the fight against terrorists? ROFL! Right from the start, 90% of you only dealt with the rebels, but hardly any with the IS! The only force that really fought intensely on the ground against IS is the Kurds! Yes, I know ... you never get tired of your conspiracy and false flag allegations, which for me are largely bullcrap. We had discussed this many times in the past ... and I told you in no uncertain terms that the main supporters of Al Nusra & Co are Turkey and Erdogan, not the USA! I also told you that the term terrorist is now irrelevant because it has been and is being misused far too often to discredit opposing insurgents. What is a terrorist to one is a heroic freedom fighter to another! Sure ... of course the IS is terrorist scum. I personally see Al Nusra as such scum, but not Erdogan. Conversely, Hezbollah is considered terrorist scum for many, but probably not for you. that is exactly why the term terrorist is irrelevant.

    Trump:
    Sorry ... Trump is much worse than Obama, Hillary & Co when it comes to warmongering! Did you forget North Korea Who shot a hundred more tomahawks on Assad than Obama ever did in one night ... and why, eh?
    Do you remember Trump's press conference about and how he told how good this attack was etc.?

    Turkey / Erdogan:
    Sorry Jeanette, but slowly I'm getting really angry here! Damn it ... the Russian jet was shot down by 2 Turkish F-16s, ultimately on Erdogan's orders. It was Turkey and no one else who completely illegally ordered a restricted air zone on Syrian territory in which the Russian jet was shot down! It was Turkish jets that illegally penetrated deep into Syrian airspace right from the start ... and one was shot down around 100km deep in Syrian airspace, with the Turkish reaction that the shot down was illegal and the pilot had only flown some time before! And it was Erdogan who sealed off the border to the Kurdish-occupied area of Syria like the German-German border in the Cold War ... but left the area to the IS-occupied area as open as the border between Arizona and Texas!
    Ad you wanna tell now that behind all was the Obama administration??? Sorry, that is bullshit!

    Sure ... the Obama administration also got involved, but much too laxly, uncoordinated and in summary, they only did the job with half their ass, as we call it in Germany! Either you are really serious, that is, a full invasion like Bush Jr. in Iraq at the time ... or you stay out of it! But because of the disaster and the criminal attack on Saddam, there was no majority in the USA for that. So the bullshit happened as it happened! And you say it yourself ... Erdogan has great power dreams and is doing exactly the same with Libya again today. This is exactly what he does from the start, because somehow this son of a b *** dreams of a resurrection of the Ottoman Empire and acts like that!
     
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    I believe that every turning point in history has to do to climate change - whether it's famine, war or plague. There had to be climate change in the early 30's, because there were famines in the USSR, dust storms in Oklahoma and Texas, and a failure of the crops in Germany - which is now assumed to have caused the Great Depression.

    A really big example of climate change would be the eruption of one or two major volcanos in 538 AD. The sky darkened for more than a decade in the Northern hemisphere, and threw Europe into the Dark Ages. This was the cause of the invasions that destroyed the Roman Empire - or at least the Western part of the Empire.

    To think that we would be the cause of a climate change that has been going on throughout history, is foolish. The reason the ice is melting, is because the earth is heating up inside. What we should do is adapt to the change, and get rid of all the plastic in the oceans because it's being eaten by the fish.


    It was Syria that made me aware of what my country was doing. I knew that Assad was the only secular leader in the Middle East, and I knew Syrians personally who were moving back to Syria because they loved Assad and his all inclusive society. But that was before we decided to rip the country apart. What Washington wanted was to 'Balkanize' and split the country into sectarian States, that way the different groups instead of living together in harmony, would be fighting one another and remain weak.

    To give you an idea of the hypocrisy of Washington and its followers, Kerry said that he wouldn't recognize an election if Assad was running, because he knew the Syrian people would vote for him. When they held the election, he said it isn't recognized because the country is at war. And yet at exactly the same time he recognized the elections in Ukraine, even though they were at war. In the meantime any politician that represented the people in Eastern and the Southern part of Ukraine were thrown into trash bins and warned not to
    run.

    These videos were taken after the election. In this one, the American observers who went to Syria to find out what was really going on, are telling what they saw at the UN.




    In this video you can see the cheering that was going on in Syria when Assad won, because they wanted the world to know that everything coming out of the Western news media and government is a lie.



    From the time the Russians entered Syria ISIS began to lose ground. The only part of Syria that Russia could not free from ISIS, is the part East of the Euphrates with the oil wells. That's is the land Israel and Washington want to give to the Kurds so they use ISIS as an excuse.

    Without the oil and gas, Assad would never have the funds to rebuild his country that we helped destroy by supporting terrorists to get rid of Assad. When the Russian mercenaries and Syrians tried to attack ISIS in that part of Syria, they were bombed by the American air force.

    Problem is that the Kurds never lived in that area. They lived mostly in Turkey and Iran, and only occupied a small part of Syria in the North. . The people living there are probably mostly Shia Arabs with some Christian Armenians and Assyrians as well.. I'm sure they're being armed by the Iranians to protect their homes and lands from the Kurds.
     
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    Wait ... which Super Volcano or which mass of Volcanos did break during the last 30 years again? Ehm ... none!

    There have always been famines in between, as well as bad weather conditions such as droughts. But we are talking about a steady increase in global temperature and that is exactly what did not exist in the past. I am honestly tired of bothering with deniers of man-made climate change. The main reason for denial is that it would mean changes and cuts, and these people do not want to accept them. So you reach ... as they say in Germany ... for every lifebuoy that helps. If 20 of 1,000 recognized scientists deny this man-made climate change, then only these 20 scientists count for these people ... the 980 others are of no interest! And apart from that, the facts are so clear about the enrichment with CO2 and the consequences that anyone who still denies it is also ready to deny that 1 + 1 = 2 if it contradicts their own opinion!


    The Vietnam War opened my eyes to the hypocrisy of the US and its dark machinations! Actually already the Cuba crisis in 1962 ... because that the USA positioned Jupiter missiles with nuclear warheads directly on the Russian border on the territory of NATO member Turkey, was and is still OK for these hypocritical idiots. But that the USSR in return then does the same on the territory of its ally Cuba ... by no means! So you play with fire and bring the world to the brink of nuclear war! Disgusting!

    As for Assad ... I appeal to your logical common sense one last time: The Assad regime in Syria has never been any kind of democracy for a good 60 years ... like none of the Eastern European countries in Europe was a democracy until 1991, or it is China or North Korea! There has never been a real opposition in elections because it was, is and will always be forbidden under Assad ... and in all alleged elections the election result was already certain! You keep coming back with these ridiculous election watchers who were just bought clowns and nothing else. They didn't even move around in the country and checked the election sufficiently, how should they have noticed anything? More than that ... how is any proper election to be carried out in a country where civil war between three parties and countless frontline rages in this patchwork of contrlled areas of influence? To put it simply: How many ballot boxes were there for Syrian citizens in the IS-controlled area? How many in that of the FSA ... and how many in the countless refugee camps in Turkey, Jordan and Lebanon or anywhere else ... where were and still are millions of refugee Syrians?

    Please turn on your head and think logically after Jeannette!


    Sorry, but this is bullcrap! Forst of all, IS was for the Russians minor important, but the FSA the major target for years! The only one who fought the IS on the ground really were the Kurds!
    And the second bullcrap is that they want to have independence! What they want is a somehow autonomy inside Syria like the Russians in Donbaz wanted on first in Ukraine civil war!

    And like a proof of what I told you about Erdogan ... who wants this not and made an invasion into Syrian soil there, eh?
    There are no Americans left anymore, since this coward bastard Trump retreated in fear for the "Ottoman slap into the US face" which Erdogan announced prior Turkish invasion if the USA will help the Kurds against them!



    And where were they these several years before they directed towards norh, eh? Ehm ... we better keep silence about, isn't it Jeanette?
    And not to forget the North Koreans, the Iranian Revolutions Guard and the terorists of Hezbollah fighting on Assads side and wanting to have big influence later ... means more influence as they still have!
    And instead communicating that they will attack IS now, these idiots moed simply with no information and provocated the US raid on them ... so that people like can make them now to be victims of the USA. Nice, isn't it!

    Look on the maps of any age you can find and you see where Kurds live since centuries and the first part of your words above is refuted by facts!
    And secondly ... YPG is not an enemy of Assad regime. They fought all too often together with Assads forces in the region
     
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    This is true. These have grown massively throughout Trumps term. They are generally people who want to overthrow the Government and put in their sort of barbarity.
    Absolutely not. He hoped for this but they told him absolutely not. Jeanette, Trump did not have sufficient people to do his coup and put the US under a brutal Dictatorship and he did not have support of the military which would have been absolutely necessary for a Coup.
     
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    I guess it is convenient to throw blam around for whatever happens that you don't like. At least Mother Nature can't argue with you.
     
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    I guess you see traditional American values and the rights given to us as being barbarity, and the tyranny of pagan values - which are being imposed on us by liberals as being civilized? Well I don't! The Constitution gave Americans the right to bear arms to protect their rights and to fight tyranny. And they are going to do it even if it means blood. From what I heard, all the ammunition throughout the country has been sold out.


    The militias consist of vets and police, and I think they started when Clinton went against the UN and under the pretense of genocide when there was none, he took the laws into his own hands. With CNN's lies and propaganda as a cover, he was able to bomb Belgrade for 78 days.

    Since then the 'swamp' wars have been unending. I assume the war mongers want to support their investments in the military industrial complex and probably to lessen the world population by killing as many people as possible. Today they hate Trump, because again he threatens their investments but this time it has to do with China. As for the average American, the swamp could give a damn about. As Hillary said; 'they are the deplorables'.

    I don't know where you're getting those lies from? I know that 80% of the military supports Trump. They hate war and know that he wants to bring them home but the war mongers won't allow it. Expect more wars, they're coming.

    As for a coup, what do you think the 4 years of Russiagate lies and the impeachment trials were? They were attempted coups. Trump suffered 4 years of it because the Democrats feared jail time for their crimes - starting with Russiagate and the fake Steele dossier.

    I don't know if you ever heard of the satanist Saul Alinsky? Hillary Clinton worked for him, and Obama was a follower. One of the methods he advocates in his: 'Rules for Radicals', is to accuse others of doing what you are doing. That way you confuse people.

    So what we have now is Antifa and BLM being presented as peaceful demonstrators by the liberal MSM, even though they're destroying business' and property freely in the Democratic run cities. And we have the media calling the Trump rally which consisted of families an 'armed insurrection', without mentioning that the damage was caused by the Antifa and BLM infiltrators.

    Anyway, everything I say comes from sites that show videos and proofs and not try to manipulate with words.

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    But not the true, for what they've shown

    is they are willing to fly alone - Jeannette
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    Mandelus - Of course it did or the glaciers wouldn't have melted. The climate change farce was a ploy to bring about the great reset and world government by Soros and his
    ideologues. They have their opportunity now with Corona and the lock downs - that's why they're doing everything to destroy small business' and have them bought up by the large corporations. Trump was trying to fight it, so they began their attacks that he's the cause of so many deaths from Covid, etc.


    You're right! Jack Kennedy would not have gone along, but the CIA and Johnson killed him.

    The Assads are Alawites and were always looked down on by the Sunnis because they were secular like Christians. Besides, the Sunnis must always have control and be in power. The only reason the Assad's remained in power, was because the minorities like Christians and others voted for them, otherwise Syria would have been under sharia law.

    The American plan was to break up Syria. Turkey was to grab Aleppo, etc., etc. The Sunnis that were fighting Assad and went under ISIS and the jihadists, regretted it later, and realized how free and nice everything was under Assad, so they rejoined his army.

    The following map shows the Kurd homelands. If you notice, only a small part in the Northeast was the Kurdish homeland in Syria. Raqqa where the oil wells are and the US wants for the Kurds, is on the East bank of the Euphrates and no where near the Kurd homeland. So don't compare it to Donbas, where the Russians have always lived there.

    There has been a lot of ethnic cleansing and genocide in Syria in order to relocate people. The reason ISIS exists only on the East side of the Euphrates, is so the US can use them as an excuse to hold on to the oil and keep it from the Syrian people. ISIS has been cleansed from the rest of Syria.


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